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Jessica2407
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posted December 18, 2012 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What does it mean when you have someone's moon, mercury and mars in your 12th house?

I'd like to know what you all think.

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posted December 19, 2012 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It means the planets are weaker in the chart since they are in house 12. Mars in house 12 can mean trouble. If this is a synastry chart, could mean the relationship will be wrought with some tribulations. Doesn't mean it's impossible. Moon in 12 is a sign that emotions could be difficult to grasp and the couple won't know how they really feel about one another.

Mercury in there means communications will be an issue and not the easiest.

Planets that work best in house 12 are Venus and Jupiter and there could be problems depending on how they are aspect.


Everything else is iffy.

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Jessica2407
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posted December 19, 2012 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Mercury,Mars, sun and Moon all fall in his 10th house capricorn which is my ascendant. so some synastry sites show all those planets in my 1st house while I've seen a few sites show them in my 12th.So I suppose they lie in the cusp of my 1st and 12th houses.

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posted December 19, 2012 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Mars in house 12 can mean trouble.


What sort of trouble?

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posted December 19, 2012 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But wouldnt moon in 12th also manifest into feeling intutive to the persons feeling especially if the person haa psychic placements

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posted December 19, 2012 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
But wouldnt moon in 12th also manifest into feeling intutive to the persons feeling especially if the person haa psychic placements

I have started dreaming about him. weird stuff. Like for instance I know he is in Paris without him ever having mentioned that to me. But I also feel 'naked' when I talk to him. A feeling of being probed into that is unsettling at times.

With regards to communication problems. Does it affect both the 12th house person and the person who has his planets occupying the 12th house? I sure do not have any problems communicating my feelings to him. Actually I'm pretty loud about them too. LOL.

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posted December 19, 2012 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Communication problems, his planets are in your twelfth house which means there is a possibility what he does will affect you. Maybe it is work related since the sign is Capricorn. That sign concerns itself with the outer world and work related issues, responsibilities and whatnot. It can mean someone who is prominent at work, busy, burdened with upper management style responsibilities. Plus, you mentioned house number 10, so. This house is active in those who have careers, generally.

The good news is, since it's astrology, you do have the opportunity to find this stuff out ahead of time and work on it That's the best thing about astrology! So don't get discouraged. Just become aware of the potential challenges and pay special attention to problem areas, taking the time to work on them a bit harder. Like, if you are drifting apart due to work, make a concerted effort to find time to be together

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posted December 19, 2012 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just remember 12th house is the most challenging because it makes you work hardest for the energy inside, more than any other house. You will toil hard for the rewards but they are accessible if you really try and if you believe. You have to give it your all and have complete and utter faith. It's all or nothing with those planets but once you gain the energy you will appreciate life more and not be so willing to take it for granted. It's all about appreciating the effort. It makes the results that much better with house 12.

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posted December 19, 2012 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Just remember 12th house is the most challenging because it makes you work hardest for the energy inside, more than any other house. You will toil hard for the rewards but they are accessible if you really try and if you believe. You have to give it your all and have complete and utter faith. It's all or nothing with those planets but once you gain the energy you will appreciate life more and not be so willing to take it for granted. It's all about appreciating the effort. It makes the results that much better with house 12.

It's kind of blurry to me. To whom will it be more challenging? The house person?? How does it affect the planet person?

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posted December 19, 2012 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It will be challenging for you, Jessica, if his Capricorn planets are in your 12th house. It means the relationship is possible but will require more effort than if planets were say, in first or seventh houses. Angular houses allow the planet to fully express the energy. 12 house planets are almost invisible on a conscious level unless you make an effort to access the energy. For instance, Mars there suggests obstacles in the relationship due to apathy and not a lot of drive and passion. You will have to work on getting that passion from him because it is in your 12th house.

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posted December 19, 2012 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
It will be challenging for you, Jessica, if his Capricorn planets are in your 12th house. It means the relationship is possible but will require more effort than if planets were say, in first or seventh houses. Angular houses allow the planet to fully express the energy. 12 house planets are almost invisible on a conscious level unless you make an effort to access the energy. For instance, Mars there suggests obstacles in the relationship due to apathy and not a lot of drive and passion. You will have to work on getting that passion from him because it is in your 12th house.

okay...hopefully my venus,sun and mercury which are in his 5th house and my mars is in his 6th h will help me doing that..

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posted December 19, 2012 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's good to use planets that aspect the 12 house to bring the energy out and it can manifest in whatever house the planet in aspect is in.

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posted December 19, 2012 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in 12th is VERY challenging esp. if one or either have higher sex drives. Means sexually incompatible most of the time esp. if Mars and/or Venus touch Saturn even positively. Mars here means your drives, passions and sexual wills and flirtations are not seen easily by the 12th house person, they might block you out either consciously or subconsciously... your drives and passions in bed might be harder for them to appreciate or understand.

Moon here can create a sort of psychic link esp. if contacted by Pluto or Neptune in the chart of synastry.

Mercury can represent deeper, more profound communications but strange blocks in communications like feeling on a totally different realm than your partner sometimes, having a lot of misunderstandings, e-mails or texts that come across as weird or accidentally don't send, being swamped in very deep and sometimes overly emotive communications, etc. etc.

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posted December 20, 2012 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
Mercury can represent deeper, more profound communications but strange blocks in communications like feeling on a totally different realm than your partner sometimes, having a lot of misunderstandings, e-mails or texts that come across as weird or accidentally don't send, being swamped in very deep and sometimes overly emotive communications, etc. etc.

yikes this is SO true.

oh well this doesn't sound so promising especially with all our misunderstandings that are infact very strange.

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