posted December 21, 2012 04:47 PM            

And when they finally meet (which is the whole point of the show: to meet each other) all the romantic feelings seem to disappear, and they (usually) become friends instead.

So my question is, were they in love to begin with? Were the feelings real?

posted December 21, 2012 05:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Juliet41894:
in my opinion, and this is coming from someone with neptune in the 7th trine venus, neptune love is the purest, realest love. it's highly spiritual and doesn't require physical contact so i suppose that's why you're questioning if it's "real" or not. the emotional bond you feel goes beyond someone's personality or character; it's a love of their soul, and it's the realization that we're all bound to each other. but that's just my take

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I don't have anything to contribute Nicole, I'm sorry~ But, I really should try watching this show - everyone is talking about it lately... (I really do live under a rock sometimes! haha)

I can say I have had these "catfishy" relationships at least 7 times, and only 4 of them really worked out in the manner of people meeting physically, or maintaining a bond, or actually forming a relationship... the ones that did are still close to me today. I don't think our interests were any less real just because they did have an almost "Neptunian" element to them... I do see where you are coming from with that...
I have Psc dsc~ Neptune in Sadge 4h... maybe that's why I'm kinda drawn into them so often... iunno Oo; But, yes~ I really need to watch the show! XD

@ Juliet --- I just wanted to say I really love everything you wrote above; well said!

posted December 21, 2012 10:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Juliet41894:
in my opinion, and this is coming from someone with neptune in the 7th trine venus, neptune love is the purest, realest love. it's highly spiritual and doesn't require physical contact so i suppose that's why you're questioning if it's "real" or not. the emotional bond you feel goes beyond someone's personality or character; it's a love of their soul, and it's the realization that we're all bound to each other. but that's just my take

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This is the first time in years that I've seen anybody else say anything about Neptune that actually made sense.

Usually people refer to it as a malefic - of all things, and start clucking the second they see a lot of Neptune aspects in any chart, whether natal, synastry, composite...

posted December 22, 2012 03:10 AM            

Neptune love is the strongest most soul touching energy that would make doves fly together towards the apple tree to bring a squrriel a piece of aloe for his little cut arm, because they think, why wouldn't i?

Love is forgiveness
Love is a quiet understanding
Love is giving
Love is sacafice
Love is excecting
Love is musical
Love is EMOTIONAL

To fall in true love you have be emotionally connected, lust just pulls them close.

"Venus 12th
Neptune conjuct Midheaven
Pisces rising moon and mars"

posted December 22, 2012 03:33 AM            

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Originally posted by JLyn ~:

Love is forgiveness
Love is a quiet understanding
Love is giving
Love is sacrifice
Love is expecting
Love is musical
Love is EMOTIONAL

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JLyn ~this is beautiful~

~my neptune plays 2 deg of separation.... it really does end up hitting almost everything in my chart~ but the impact is subtle~ def from a DSC-y connection...

awww but this mushy stuff definitely gets it going~

posted December 22, 2012 03:46 AM            

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Originally posted by JLyn ~:
Neptune love is the strongest most soul touching energy that would make doves fly together towards the apple tree to bring a squrriel a piece of aloe for his little cut arm, because they think, why wouldn't i?

Love is forgiveness
Love is a quiet understanding
Love is giving
Love is sacafice
Love is excecting
Love is musical
Love is EMOTIONAL

To fall in true love you have be emotionally connected, lust just pulls them close.

"Venus 12th
Neptune conjuct Midheaven
Pisces rising moon and mars"

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posted December 22, 2012 03:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Juliet41894:
in my opinion, and this is coming from someone with neptune in the 7th trine venus, neptune love is the purest, realest love. it's highly spiritual and doesn't require physical contact so i suppose that's why you're questioning if it's "real" or not. the emotional bond you feel goes beyond someone's personality or character; it's a love of their soul, and it's the realization that we're all bound to each other. but that's just my take

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posted December 22, 2012 04:06 AM            

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Originally posted by SaturnineMoth:
JLyn ~this is beautiful~

~my neptune plays 2 deg of separation.... it really does end up hitting almost everything in my chart~ but the impact is subtle~ def from a DSC-y connection...

awww but this mushy stuff definitely gets it going~

*doves* <3 x2

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i know i know i got all mushy, but i adore talking about L word

posted December 22, 2012 04:10 AM            

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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
I LAVVVVVVVV THIS.

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Thank you 11nahyt : )

posted December 22, 2012 07:09 AM            

I have it in the 7th and I'm still not confident in how the 7th house works as far as projection goes, but whenever I fall in love, I'll do anything for the person. I don't hate people who don't love me back (although it doesn't feel great) You just end up wanting the best for them.

posted December 22, 2012 10:48 AM            

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Originally posted by JLyn ~:
Online relationships without ever meeting can become mysterously addicting, but because they havent had the chance to smell touch or connect through physical expressions its only the deception of wishful thinking that gives you that feeling of infatuation attachment. So basically you become emotionally attached which gives you a sense of love from what the heart wants, so feelings manifest into more than what is.

To fall in true love you have be emotionally connected, lust just pulls them close.

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Actually this contradicts itself in multiple places, and I'll tell you why.

If anything, an online relationship can be less deceptive and more 'real' on multiple levels, than an actual face-to-face relationship, because of the fact that it's *not* in person and you don't have things like physical attraction or in-person chemistry, clouding it and getting mistaken for actual love and emotional, intellectual and spiritual compatibility.

Especially back in the old-school days of the internet, when there was no Skype, and most people didn't even post a picture of themselves online. So you had no idea who they were, what they looked like...all you had were words, so it was purely about getting to know one another in a way that had nothing to do with the external or any other things besides the personality and spirit of the person on the other end, which resulted in a lot of bonds that were purely emotionally and intellectually-based.

If anything, face-to-face relationships are more unreal (and Neptunian in the negative sense of illusion) and lust-based because people usually wind up asking out someone they think is "hot". Ask most people who met their significant other in the real world, why they asked them out, or the story of how they met - and nine times out of ten, they'll mention something about how nice-looking they thought the person was.

posted December 22, 2012 05:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Juliet41894:
in my opinion, and this is coming from someone with neptune in the 7th trine venus, neptune love is the purest, realest love. it's highly spiritual and doesn't require physical contact so i suppose that's why you're questioning if it's "real" or not. the emotional bond you feel goes beyond someone's personality or character; it's a love of their soul, and it's the realization that we're all bound to each other. but that's just my take

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If its real, as you say, why is deception involved? Why is Neptune so upset once it realizes the person is not as they thought they were?

Both Venus & Neptune know how to keep themselves happy in love. But most of what they believe isn't necessarily real (imo).

posted December 22, 2012 05:39 PM            

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Originally posted by StacyLewis:
Actually this contradicts itself in multiple places, and I'll tell you why.

If anything, an online relationship can be less deceptive and more 'real' on multiple levels, than an actual face-to-face relationship, because of the fact that it's *not* in person and you don't have things like physical attraction or in-person chemistry, clouding it and getting mistaken for actual love and emotional, intellectual and spiritual compatibility.

Especially back in the old-school days of the internet, when there was no Skype, and most people didn't even post a picture of themselves online. So you had no idea who they were, what they looked like...all you had were words, so it was purely about getting to know one another in a way that had nothing to do with the external or any other things besides the personality and spirit of the person on the other end, which resulted in a lot of bonds that were purely emotionally and intellectually-based.

If anything, face-to-face relationships are more unreal (and Neptunian in the negative sense of illusion) and lust-based because people usually wind up asking out someone they think is "hot". Ask most people who met their significant other in the real world, why they asked them out, or the story of how they met - and nine times out of ten, they'll mention something about how nice-looking they thought the person was.

I think that, online-relationships, if they happen (and unfold in) the right way, from the inside (of the people involved) out, pretty much embody the positive side of Neptune, pure love in its highest form. In-person relationships usually start out Neptunian in the more negative manifestation - "You look good to me, or you meet a list of external criteria that has nothing to do with our compatiblity as souls, therefore I think I'm in love".

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posted December 22, 2012 06:42 PM            

You can't truly lve somebody if you've never lived day to day life with them, online gives you the ability to fill in blanks and that creates illusion.

posted December 22, 2012 06:54 PM            

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Originally posted by StacyLewis:
Actually this contradicts itself in multiple places, and I'll tell you why.

If anything, an online relationship can be less deceptive and more 'real' on multiple levels, than an actual face-to-face relationship, because of the fact that it's *not* in person and you don't have things like physical attraction or in-person chemistry, clouding it and getting mistaken for actual love and emotional, intellectual and spiritual compatibility.

Especially back in the old-school days of the internet, when there was no Skype, and most people didn't even post a picture of themselves online. So you had no idea who they were, what they looked like...all you had were words, so it was purely about getting to know one another in a way that had nothing to do with the external or any other things besides the personality and spirit of the person on the other end, which resulted in a lot of bonds that were purely emotionally and intellectually-based.

If anything, face-to-face relationships are more unreal (and Neptunian in the negative sense of illusion) and lust-based because people usually wind up asking out someone they think is "hot". Ask most people who met their significant other in the real world, why they asked them out, or the story of how they met - and nine times out of ten, they'll mention something about how nice-looking they thought the person was.

I think that, online-relationships, if they happen (and unfold in) the right way, from the inside (of the people involved) out, pretty much embody the positive side of Neptune, pure love in its highest form. In-person relationships usually start out Neptunian in the more negative manifestation - "You look good to me, or you meet a list of external criteria that has nothing to do with our compatiblity as souls, therefore I think I'm in love".

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I clearly made a point that you undermindingly dont see, This is starting to feel like the twilight zone. I sense people very easily, and i feel your negative energy. I feel it and you show it. Sorry, i'm not trying to hurt you but please let go of that blanket.

Now back to what i wrote:
I said online relationships is deception with the infatuation attachment feelings, meaning its not real love, meaning your mind will trick you into believing what he or she REALLY is as a person since you cant see their facal expressions and little nits and nats about how they interact in person. Anyone can type i love you, but its more meaningful and touches you more when they take you by the hand and give you that look and says i love you. And spiritual connections doesnt mean they have to be far away, i had an ex that knew when i was about to get into a car reck he called my cell and said jamie dont go down such and such road but i did anyway and recked just like he said!! i always had dreams about him and knew how he was feeling or if anything was bothering him, i knew it was him before i picked up the phone, "thats a spiritual connection".

True love isnt produced by physical lusty rose colored glasses neptune, but in person it give it a romantic feel to something much greater, something thats becomes much emotional with every kiss hands holding and everytime you make deep passionate love the emotional bond grows stronger into a knitted union that unspoken words from across the room with only their eyes telling the story becomes normal.

online relations-deceptive neptune

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