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Topic: aspects in longitude/ declination
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25650 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 23, 2012 07:15 AM
Do you have any aspects that are simultaneously parallel/ contraparallel (orb: 1°)? Check also for antiscia/ contrascia and parallel/ contraparallels. How do you relate to these aspects?
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sand Knowflake Posts: 10270 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted December 23, 2012 09:14 AM
Moon 23°50'26" N True Node 21°25'47" NJupiter 22°38'55" S Uranus 22°16' 6" S Neptune 22°13'37" S Like these? IP: Logged |
Hera Knowflake Posts: 8636 From: Olympus Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 23, 2012 12:01 PM
Sun parallel Pluto, orb <1. I feel it very much, actually. If you add Asc, I have Jup, Uranus and Neptune all parallel it and I feel them too. Jup and Uranus are also conjunct Asc by antiscia.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25650 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 23, 2012 12:24 PM
No, what I meant was if there is an aspect AND a parallel/ contraparallel between the same planets. How do you feel it?In my case I have Mars conjunct Neptune (almost five degrees) and also Mars parallel Neptune (of course under one degree).
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Linda Jones Knowflake Posts: 1768 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted December 23, 2012 02:01 PM
I'll speak for two people I know really well. ~ My TF has natal Mars conj Venus (2 deg). In declination he has Mars parallel Venus (less than 1 deg). And I know he feels his Mars/Venus conjunction quite strongly, as romance, passion, and beauty are v. imp for him. He also has an abundance of charisma and charm and, I feel, blends his masculine and feminine sides quite effortlessly. Another thing I noticed is that he can assert himself when needed and also cooperate when necessary, again seemingly without effort. ~ My best friend (woman) has natal Venus trine Jupiter (3 deg) and also Venus parallel Jupiter (less than 1 deg). ~ She also has Venus trine True Node (exact). Her Venus is parallel True Node (less than 1 deg). ~ I know her love energy is strong (devoted) and tinged with Jupiter qualities. Growing up she has not felt material lack, and, because Venus is conjunct her Mid Heaven, she shines in a highly specialized field. It feels like she has an additional dose of help from unseen forces as she has always managed to meet/work for the right people (top ones in the world ...NN is in Leo). Like my TF, she too has a very charismatic presence. My sense is that the strength of conjunctions is somehow reinforced by also having parallel aspects. Hope this helps .
. ------------------ ~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma ~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead. ~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God. Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity. For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly. ~ moi ~ IP: Logged |
Linda Jones Knowflake Posts: 1768 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted December 23, 2012 02:46 PM
Oh I wanted to add some aspects from the composite with my TF since I understand the flow of our energies. Don't know if you were looking only for natal.Composite Venus and Mercury are conjunct (2 deg) both straddling the IC by 1 deg each, with composite Sun at a wider conjunction of 8 deg. Venus/IC/Mercury/Sun are all parallel (less than 1 deg). There's a feeling of adoration and appreciation of each others' personalities and ideas. Whenever we drive each other up the wall Venus always comes to the rescue, smoothing things over. The attraction is intense, almost compulsive. And the love is simply present ... always. The stellium receives an opposition from composite Saturn (0 deg to the Sun). In declination, Saturn is contraparallel (less than 1 deg) to the stellium. The flow of love is strongest and smoothest when ego energies are kept in check, otherwise this is where we can drive each other up the wall. It's good to have Venus always at standby in the stellium. . . ------------------ ~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma
~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead. ~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God. Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity. For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly. ~ moi ~ IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 6542 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 23, 2012 03:13 PM
Mars quincunx Pluto : Mars contraparallel Pluto --Probably the reason I feel* the quincunx so much (especially via transits) despite being a tight aspect. It does have strong opposition colouring and considering I don't have natal oppositions (there is a 7 degree orb between Ven/Nep,but that simply doesn't work) this is the closest to opposition I've felt. *which doesn't mean I could breakdown the quincunx aspect; still processing.
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StacyLewis Knowflake Posts: 471 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted December 25, 2012 12:09 AM
I have Sun square Chiron and Sun parallel Chiron (by declination). Orb? 0 degrees.I also have Jupiter conjunct Saturn and Jupiter Parallel Saturn (by declination). Both aspects are very, very tight in orb - we're talking, one degree, or less than one. I went Googling Chiron conjunct the sun to get a sense of what the aspect supposedly means and it does appear to fit my life experiences. As long as I can remember I've felt like there's some very, very specific purpose why I'm here (on the planet at this time). Exactly what that purpose is, I haven't figured out yet - it's just a constant nagging feeling that I have some definite goal I was put here to 'do'. I'm reading about the Jupiter-Saturn one now and I can't really make heads or tails of it...I suspect that the problem is age and life experience at this point. In about ten years I could probably give you an answer to that one lol. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25650 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 25, 2012 06:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by VenusDiSirius: Mars quincunx Pluto : Mars contraparallel Pluto --Probably the reason I feel* the quincunx so much (especially via transits) despite being a tight aspect. It does have strong opposition colouring and considering I don't have natal oppositions (there is a 7 degree orb between Ven/Nep,but that simply doesn't work) this is the closest to opposition I've felt. *which doesn't mean I could breakdown the quincunx aspect; still processing.
This exactly what I mean. In my observation the aspects seem to be stronger if there is a parallel/ contraparallel between the aspecting planets at the same time.
(of course aspects can also be strong without the parallel/ contraparallel; but I just mean to say that the declinational aspect seems to strengthen the longitudinal aspect). The existence of a declinational aspect also seems to strengthen aspects in wider orb.
Often loose conjunctions will be parallel for example, and I am pretty sure that is one reason why wide orbs sometimes are applicable. ONE reason, not the only one. I am just rereading the book on declinations by Newman, and it is really a good read. I also had a reading done once in which was being mentioned that my Moon is paralle SPICA, which was consiered as a small positive link. I had never seen it done before, but of course fixed stars also have declinations. lol
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25650 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 25, 2012 06:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by Linda Jones:
My sense is that the strength of conjunctions is somehow reinforced by also having parallel aspects. Hope this helps .
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'That was my idea as well. IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 10270 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted December 25, 2012 07:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by sand: Moon 23°50'26" N True Node 21°25'47" NJupiter 22°38'55" S Uranus 22°16' 6" S Neptune 22°13'37" S Like these?
well my moon is inconjunct neptune. moon cp neptune too here it seems.. IP: Logged |
ail221 Moderator Posts: 6799 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012
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posted December 25, 2012 10:42 PM
Parallel Sun 21° 4' 7" N conjunct Jupiter 21°41' 3" N Sun 21° 4' 7" N semi-sextile Venus 22°34'57" N Contraparallel Sun 21° 4' 7" N and Jupiter 21°41' 3" N opposite Saturn 21°36'49" S Venus 22°34'57" N Opposite Uranus 23°35'31" S
Mercury 18°49'56" N opposite NN 18°26'34" S The most identifiable energy involves the Sun/Jupiter/Saturn aspects. Literally the constant pull back and forth from optimism and pessimism. T___T
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moonlightx Knowflake Posts: 273 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 25, 2012 11:14 PM
I have Sun conjunct Saturn by 1 orb and Sun parallel Saturn. So in addition to being a Capricorn sun, I feel it's pretty strong. Even as a child, I was mature for my age. People used to say that I look or am serious. Now the first thing they usually comment on is how quiet I am. quote: "There is a strong need to be recognized as accomplished, but some fear of the spotlight at the same time."
I definitely feel that. I'm also hard on myself and can be incredibly sarcastic. I also have Sun conjunct Neptune (5 degree orb) and Sun parallel Neptune. Kind of a contrast to the Saturn aspects, but I relate to this just as much. Very spiritual/intuitive, artistic, and I'm all about meaning and attaching meaning to things. My mom is always telling me to stop daydreaming, but I can't help it. I love to escape from the world sometimes. Perhaps because of all the Saturn in my chart, I'm not as outwardly sensitive, but I care deeply about others and I'm compassionate. I also love, love music. Sun opposite Ascendant (2 degree orb) and Sun contra-parallel Ascendant. Really haven't looked into this aspect much. I'm not really a people person, but I admit, I do try to keep the peace at all costs. And I have 3 more aspects that correspond to the parallel/contra-parallel thing, but I'll leave it at that. I think your theories are correct, Ceridwen and Linda Jones. Very interesting. IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 2226 From: INTJ Registered: Jun 2015
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posted May 06, 2016 09:24 AM
Edit: Nevermind. My question didn't make sense. I have been thinking about this exact topic though and whether or not a declination can add or subtract strength of other aspects involving the same planets. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25650 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 06, 2016 10:56 AM
It would add strenght, never substract. But it is valid on its own as well. these are my conclusions during the last years (my perception might have shifted a little).
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DopGang Knowflake Posts: 2226 From: INTJ Registered: Jun 2015
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posted May 06, 2016 11:13 AM
This may not even be possible because I know declination degrees are at certain points. I think cancer and cap are the peaks? Something like that. That maybe differs with rising sign and degree. I was thinking in terms of a contra parallel with a trine for example. Perhaps that could never happen though. I'm not sure. IP: Logged |
Violets Knowflake Posts: 5916 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted May 06, 2016 01:12 PM
As I mentioned before, almost all of mine are contra parallel. Yay for my ridiculous chart (it has its charms, I suppose). IP: Logged |
Violets Knowflake Posts: 5916 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted May 06, 2016 01:37 PM
Hm. Saturn, as usual, appears to be the jerkosaurus wanker in my chart, contra parallel to everything from my NN to my Vertex to my Mars. Edit. Not Pluto. IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 2226 From: INTJ Registered: Jun 2015
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posted May 06, 2016 01:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by Violets: jerkosaurus wanker
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Violets Knowflake Posts: 5916 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted May 06, 2016 01:44 PM
I guess my Venus, Juno, and Pallas are parallel (I haven't paid much mind to what Pallas represents, though...or Juno for that matter ), and my BML and Ceres are parallel. Not really sure what to make of all that... BML and Ceres seem like sort of a weird combo, but I guess I'll have to read more about Ceres as well. I would have more if I looked at 2* orbs, but for now I'll focus on 1*. Some of these are semi-sextile with each other, but that's about the only existing aspects so far. IP: Logged |