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JLyn ~
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posted December 24, 2012 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So say you have an orb 27.00 Scorpio moon, do we compare it like its a cusp Sun and say its combinated traits with the Saggy like the Sun cusps?

Or is it flat out a Scorpio moon?

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Aries Miranda
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posted December 24, 2012 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Miranda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've only ever heard of people combining sign traits if the planet or luminary is in 0-1st degree or 29-30th (technically 29-0) degree.

A sun sign is usually only cusp if the person was born on the day the sun moved from one sign to the next.

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VenusDiSirius
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posted December 24, 2012 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries Miranda:
A sun sign is usually only cusp if the person was born on the day the sun moved from one sign to the next.


Not even then - a planet is either in one sign or the other

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ail221
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posted December 24, 2012 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, it doesn't count. But you should look at the decans and dwads.

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Kerosene
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posted December 24, 2012 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I actually have heard of that, some astrology was talking about that on a video. According to him you do have saggy energy. I'll pull up the video if I find it.

*Okay I found it, that was fast ahha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXtTXa-5KxU

*8:10 he starts to talk about personality*

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posted December 24, 2012 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries Miranda:
I've only ever heard of people combining sign traits if the planet or luminary is in 0-1st degree or 29-30th (technically 29-0) degree.

A sun sign is usually only cusp if the person was born on the day the sun moved from one sign to the next.


So then that would mean my 0.53 Pisces Mars is really in Aquarius WHICH would make sense because i'm always fighting for human kind and very gypsy like ha, so thats a good theory

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posted December 24, 2012 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I fink you should use a supah small orb for cusps. Like, I usually consider the very last degrees, such as 28 and 29 as cusp degrees, and 0, 1, 2 of the next sign.

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posted December 25, 2012 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I actually have heard of that, some astrology was talking about that on a video. According to him you do have saggy energy. I'll pull up the video if I find it.

*Okay I found it, that was fast ahha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXtTXa-5KxU

*8:10 he starts to talk about personality*


Thanks for the video! but i cant say i agree if your orb is 15.00 degrees then its half the next sign.

I like to think of our degrees like the light spectrum fading slowly into the next color, like say you have Auarius is green by the time it gets to 20.00 degrees it slowly starts to turn into a blueish green, then 29.00-1.00 degrees becomes a solid blue Pisces

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posted December 25, 2012 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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StacyLewis
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posted December 25, 2012 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StacyLewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by JLyn ~:
So say you have an orb 27.00 Scorpio moon, do we compare it like its a cusp Sun and say its combinated traits with the Saggy like the Sun cusps?

Or is it flat out a Scorpio moon?


Planetary energies don't just stop on a dime. They kinda fade or bleed into one another. So yeah, if you have something at the end of one sign, there is going to be some of the energy of the next sign, mixed into it.

Hell, a lot of astrologers apply the same concept to the houses in astrology and will say that something at the end of one house, should be interpreted as in the next, or say that it influences both houses, etc.

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Aries Miranda
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posted December 25, 2012 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Miranda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by JLyn ~:
So then that would mean my 0.53 Pisces Mars is really in Aquarius WHICH would make sense because i'm always fighting for human kind and very gypsy like ha, so thats a good theory


I would say your Mars is in Pisces, but retains some Aquarian qualities. An analogy I read somewhere (can't remember where exactly, unfortunately) said something along the lines of this: A planet in the 1st degree of a sign is just starting to "learn" that sign, while a planet in the last degree of a sign has finished learning that sign.

So, from that standpoint, your Mars just finished "learning" Aquarius and is now starting to learn Pisces.

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posted December 25, 2012 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries Miranda:
I would say your Mars is in Pisces, but retains some Aquarian qualities. An analogy I read somewhere (can't remember where exactly, unfortunately) said something along the lines of this: A planet in the 1st degree of a sign is just starting to "learn" that sign, while a planet in the last degree of a sign has finished learning that sign.

So, from that standpoint, your Mars just finished "learning" Aquarius and is now starting to learn Pisces.


I like that, and spiritually that makes sense

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posted December 25, 2012 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:

Not even then - a planet is either in one sign or the other

Exactly.

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posted December 25, 2012 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hell, a lot of astrologers apply the same concept to the houses in astrology and will say that something at the end of one house, should be interpreted as in the next, or say that it influences both houses, etc.

Yah!

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posted December 25, 2012 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:

Not even then - a planet is either in one sign or the other

I agree with this. A planet is either in one sign or another. 29 degrees (anaretic degrees) and 0 degrees (critical degrees) are important and can show endings and beginnings but if your birth time is correct and your Moon is indeed at 27 degrees Scorpio then that is your Moon's position.

If you are feeling a Sag influence then it will probably be found somewhere else in your chart.

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