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charlie
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posted December 25, 2012 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just want to voice some thoughts. Perhaps some of you can share similar opinions or experiences! I don't really recall exact time when it all started but when it DID start, all hell broke lose!!

Ever since I was born I have been a posterchild for Uranus and Mercury. Thoughts darting rapidly...weird sense of dressing...constant change....super analytical....out-there-opinions....moved here and then I moved there..."lightbulb" moments...strong dislike of authority and an even stronger refusal of conformity!! I was considered wild and strange. BUT, thanks to my Cappy moon I always remained somewhat disciplined in my choices.

I'd say for the past 6 years or so I have been struggling to find myself. I grew uncertain of my own beliefs because after years of feeling left out and scrutinized by the general population in regards to the way I think, talk, dress and act, I simply decided to be like everybody else. And boy am I paying that price now..

I don't know how to find my way back to that care-free human I once was. I am not supposed to remain static in life! I thrive on constant movement. I shuldn't stick with same man for too long. Shouldn't have same job for too long. Shouldn't live in same city for too long and yet, this is what I have been doing to myself for some unexplainable reason.

It's not that I fear change. Not even close! I fear regret so why is it that I am doing this??? Some days I feel so suppressed and oppressed that I just want to bang my head against a wall. :-/

(if anyone is into Numerology, I AM Life Path 5 personified but have stumbled off that path...)

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Jessica2407
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posted December 25, 2012 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by charlie:

strong dislike of authority and an even stronger refusal of conformity!! I was considered wild and strange. BUT, thanks to my Cappy moon I always remained somewhat disciplined in my choices.


Can relate to the above 100 % except am cap asc.

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SaturnineMoth
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posted December 25, 2012 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Different aspects but same sort of experience as you in nearly every way. I have Venus cnj Uranus, in Sagittarius. Tropical has me set as all Earth - Cap sun (5th house no less!), Virgo rising, Taurus Moon.... Vedic has me in Sagittarius, and Leo Rising~ and overall my dominant sign is said to be Sagittarius, (Pullen places Cancer and then Scorpio after this). On top of that I have Mercury (Capricorn,barely) in stellium with Sagittarius Neptune and Jupiter~

I should /not/ be in a long term relationship, and certainly, hate settling down, and you know those lyrics, "don't fence me in".... I think that was written for a Sagittarius-type, definitely goes for me. I grow bored with routines, they feel secure because I'm a Capricorn-Earthian type, but they don't mesh with the Uranuian and Sagittarian drive for independence and exploration... So, I've always felt in my heart that I'd never settle, never marry, never be a parent, and never stick to one job when there's another one I could be learning about and aiming for...

I try to be complacent with the life I've been given, but that itch to keep moving, and drive to challenge the norm, and be a little radical (ballsy), is always right behind me, it seems! and itch you just can't scratch, kinda feeling,or a habit that can't be fully broken.

I still struggle to accept that part of myself that I would (looking at it from an astrological perspective) call Sagittarian. I feel I'm just playing the part of the goat sometimes, but that really these placements in other charts fit just bit better to what is really going on inside.... the chaos, and the need for discovery and challenge, and variety.... Those are all very Sagittarian and Uranian ambitions, traits, right? Not very Cappy of me at all, I'm sure.

So,yeah I would say I can understand exactly where you are coming from; and I recognize a lot of the contradiction you are facing as all to familiar to my own. Compromising the urge, and attraction to the bizarre with an Earth Sign influence, or I would suppose Earth/Water, or fixed sentimentality is a neverending paradox. The worst part is, in my experience, this energy can really rub some people the wrong way... it isn't fully understood, even within astrological communities, and what is understood is usually in cases of the extreme, with people who have harsh aspects... I don't have harsh aspects so to say... therefore, I suppose to most, they would discount the influence almost immediately. But, I'm tellin' ya... even a conjunction with the outer planets to personals, is very much a matter of finding equilibrium where there is always going to be struggle, for someone. The aspects with qnx, and semis are just as strong in a chart as the folks who present with opps and trines.... they can be just as much a bother - especially, and this is my belief, don't shoot the messenger... especially, when a person has an irregularly free from malefic chart.... such as my own. That semisquare between my Mars-Pluto (personal-outer again), and Venus-Uranus (ahem),is potent... it does effect the attractions, and ambitions, and the overall aesthetic of my chart. It's not only the major aspects.... that's all I'm sayin' there... ~_~

As for path numbers though~ haha Mine is 9... I try to live up to the positives associated with it in every way I can. It matches well with my 9th house Taurus Moon, and my Sagittarius stellium. ~_~

btw --- what's your progressed sign? do you feel you resonate with it moreso than your alternate charts/signs??? (I would switch mine in a heartbeat if I could! lol Aqua Sun, Gem Moon Lib Rising!)~

Umn, want to aay thank you, charlie, for sharing your experience though, it's kinda comforting to know there're others out there feelin pinched between Earthiness and other planetary aspects/elements in such a fashion. sometimes, ya get to feelin' a bit comparing with others!~ haha no?

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RedScorp
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posted December 25, 2012 05:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel you, charlie! Of the planets, I think Uranus is my strongest. Leo-Scorpio tie for signs.

Any ways, I've been pretty odd too. I went through a few phases that made me a bit of an outcast here and there. And yet, people knew who I was at the same time. Popular, but an outcast. I'm crazy too, I do things on impulse. I've moved so much as a kid, and even had different parental figures. The only thing I'm missing is a racing mind! I'm androgynous though, appearance-wise, so that makes up for it.

One of my guardians was, well, kinda bohemian: "surround yourself with what you like, and do be afraid of transience," he'd tell me (he was homeless many times, travelled a LOT, very unconventional by societal standards).

The more I think about it, the more I want to experience life, less and less I want to stay in one place. I've been in this town for four years now and I'm starting to want out. I like to think that I don't have friends. I mean, I have people I like (half the time), people I hang around with lots, but I don't feel like our connection is forever.

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charlie
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posted December 25, 2012 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SaturnineMoth:
Different aspects but same sort of experience as you in nearly every way. I have Venus cnj Uranus, in Sagittarius. Tropical has me set as all Earth - Cap sun (5th house no less!), Virgo rising, Taurus Moon.... Vedic has me in Sagittarius, and Leo Rising~ and overall my dominant sign is said to be Sagittarius, (Pullen places Cancer and then Scorpio after this). On top of that I have Mercury (Capricorn,barely) in stellium with Sagittarius Neptune and Jupiter~

I should /not/ be in a long term relationship, and certainly, hate settling down, and you know those lyrics, "don't fence me in".... I think that was written for a Sagittarius-type, definitely goes for me. I grow bored with routines, they feel secure because I'm a Capricorn-Earthian type, but they don't mesh with the Uranuian and Sagittarian drive for independence and exploration... So, I've always felt in my heart that I'd never settle, never marry, never be a parent, and never stick to one job when there's another one I could be learning about and aiming for...

I try to be complacent with the life I've been given, but that itch to keep moving, and drive to challenge the norm, and be a little radical (ballsy), is always right behind me, it seems! and itch you just can't scratch, kinda feeling,or a habit that can't be fully broken.

I still struggle to accept that part of myself that I would (looking at it from an astrological perspective) call Sagittarian. I feel I'm just playing the part of the goat sometimes, but that really these placements in other charts fit just bit better to what is really going on inside.... the chaos, and the need for discovery and challenge, and variety.... Those are all very Sagittarian and Uranian ambitions, traits, right? Not very Cappy of me at all, I'm sure.

So,yeah I would say I can understand exactly where you are coming from; and I recognize a lot of the contradiction you are facing as all to familiar to my own. Compromising the urge, and attraction to the bizarre with an Earth Sign influence, or I would suppose Earth/Water, or fixed sentimentality is a neverending paradox. The worst part is, in my experience, this energy can really rub some people the wrong way... it isn't fully understood, even within astrological communities, and what is understood is usually in cases of the extreme, with people who have harsh aspects... I don't have harsh aspects so to say... therefore, I suppose to most, they would discount the influence almost immediately. But, I'm tellin' ya... even a conjunction with the outer planets to personals, is very much a matter of finding equilibrium where there is always going to be struggle, for someone. The aspects with qnx, and semis are just as strong in a chart as the folks who present with opps and trines.... they can be just as much a bother - especially, and this is my belief, don't shoot the messenger... especially, when a person has an irregularly free from malefic chart.... such as my own. That semisquare between my Mars-Pluto (personal-outer again), and Venus-Uranus (ahem),is potent... it does effect the attractions, and ambitions, and the overall aesthetic of my chart. It's not only the major aspects.... that's all I'm sayin' there... ~_~

As for path numbers though~ haha Mine is 9... I try to live up to the positives associated with it in every way I can. It matches well with my 9th house Taurus Moon, and my Sagittarius stellium. ~_~

btw --- what's your progressed sign? do you feel you resonate with it moreso than your alternate charts/signs??? (I would switch mine in a heartbeat if I could! lol Aqua Sun, Gem Moon Lib Rising!)~

Umn, want to aay thank you, charlie, for sharing your experience though, it's kinda comforting to know there're others out there feelin pinched between Earthiness and other planetary aspects/elements in such a fashion. sometimes, ya get to feelin' a bit comparing with others!~ haha no?


Progressed I am a Leo Sun-Saturn 12H, Venus-Mars-Merc-Juno in Virgo 12H and Taurus Moon-Jupiter-Lilith-Chiron 8H. Still a Virgo Asc. Uranus in Scorpio and still square Saturn. Pluto inconjunct Moon. Looking at that makes me more depressed! And yeah, alien.

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StacyLewis
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posted December 25, 2012 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StacyLewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by charlie:
I just want to voice some thoughts. Perhaps some of you can share similar opinions or experiences! I don't really recall exact time when it all started but when it DID start, all hell broke lose!!

Ever since I was born I have been a posterchild for Uranus and Mercury. Thoughts darting rapidly...weird sense of dressing...constant change....super analytical....out-there-opinions....moved here and then I moved there..."lightbulb" moments...strong dislike of authority and an even stronger refusal of conformity!! I was considered wild and strange. BUT, thanks to my Cappy moon I always remained somewhat disciplined in my choices.

I'd say for the past 6 years or so I have been struggling to find myself. I grew uncertain of my own beliefs because after years of feeling left out and scrutinized by the general population in regards to the way I think, talk, dress and act, I simply decided to be like everybody else. And boy am I paying that price now..

I don't know how to find my way back to that care-free human I once was. I am not supposed to remain static in life! I thrive on constant movement. I shuldn't stick with same man for too long. Shouldn't have same job for too long. Shouldn't live in same city for too long and yet, this is what I have been doing to myself for some unexplainable reason.

It's not that I fear change. Not even close! I fear regret so why is it that I am doing this??? Some days I feel so suppressed and oppressed that I just want to bang my head against a wall. :-/

(if anyone is into Numerology, I AM Life Path 5 personified but have stumbled off that path...)



This doesn't sound like an actual Uranian at all, who is just inherently, naturally different from everyone else, and has absolutely no clue until other people tell them, and even then, couldn't make themselves 'fit in' and conform even if they wanted to - which they usually, don't.

Also, discipline or lack thereof has nothing to do with being Uranian or not. A person can be Uranian and still finish what they start or get the job done. Just wanted to point that out because in your first paragraph you for whatever reason, associated being Uranian with a lack of discipline. Discipline is a Saturnian concept, and yes, it's possible to have a strong/decent/well-aspected Saturn and be Uranian at the same time - the two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.

Five Life Path doesn't have anything to do with rebellion either - it's 'change', pure and simple. The number five is actually also associated with the sun and the sign Leo, as well. Not Uranus/Aquarius.

I'm not trying to lecture or be pedantic by a long shot - it's just that I'm Uranian myself (Aquarius Ascendant, Uranus conjunct Midheaven and trine Ascendant; Aquarius South Node), so I know that neck of the woods well, and what you described sounds more Capricornian/Saturnine than Uranian to me. I'm also a 14/5 Life Path.

Honestly - we Uranians not only don't *do* conformity, we don't even have the first clue how. And we move to our own beat so much that we always stay on the path we want to be on, we don't get steered off of that for anyone or anything.

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charlie
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posted December 26, 2012 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by StacyLewis:

This doesn't sound like an actual Uranian at all, who is just inherently, naturally different from everyone else, and has absolutely no clue until other people tell them, and even then, couldn't make themselves 'fit in' and conform even if they wanted to - which they usually, don't.

Also, discipline or lack thereof has nothing to do with being Uranian or not. A person can be Uranian and still finish what they start or get the job done. Just wanted to point that out because in your first paragraph you for whatever reason, associated being Uranian with a lack of discipline. Discipline is a Saturnian concept, and yes, it's possible to have a strong/decent/well-aspected Saturn and be Uranian at the same time - the two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.

Five Life Path doesn't have anything to do with rebellion either - it's 'change', pure and simple. The number five is actually also associated with the sun and the sign Leo, as well. Not Uranus/Aquarius.

I'm not trying to lecture or be pedantic by a long shot - it's just that I'm Uranian myself (Aquarius Ascendant, Uranus conjunct Midheaven and trine Ascendant; Aquarius South Node), so I know that neck of the woods well, and what you described sounds more Capricornian/Saturnine than Uranian to me. I'm also a 14/5 Life Path.

Honestly - we Uranians not only don't *do* conformity, we don't even have the first clue how. And we move to our own beat so much that we always stay on the path we want to be on, we don't get steered off of that for anyone or anything.


It appears Uranian types come in more than 1 flavor...

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