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soulstress
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posted December 28, 2012 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soulstress     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The aspect of self-deception par excellence. Someone you can never quite put your finger on. The ability, or misfortune, not to be seen. Inability to cope with reality. Self-destructive acts. Distorting perception of reality. Tendency toward escapism to avoid individual responsibility and discipline. (For Women) There is a tendency to project your sense of identity onto the men in your life. At its worst, this can create inertia through fear of taking deliberate action. Wanting to live in a dream world. Withdrawn people. Living in a world of imagination. Using the power of imagination to re-imagine your life and life purpose. Living in a fantasy world. An absent father. A father with drug or alcohol issues. A father figure may have been absent or distant and ineffective. Destructive habits. Low energy level. Tendency towards forgetfulness. Incurable romantic, not only about love but also about life. Has an endlessly forgiving heart and a powerful compassionate streak. Tendency to lie to get out of the hot seat.

From leahwhitehorse.com:

Whilst there can be many challenges with this aspect, there are many beautiful benefits. One of the mostly helpful things you can do is to learn to ground yourself and practice self-reflective techniques such as meditation or creative journaling to tune in to the real you. Forgive your weaknesses – we all have them. Actively seek out ways to build your confidence. Your intuition can be a powerful tool, as can your creativity. You are likely to have a highly refined artistic sense and an extraordinary imagination. A spiritual path of some kind may help to keep your feet on the ground whilst exploring other realms of existence and ways of being. Your natural kindness can endear you to many and you may have a rather magical air about you which charms others.


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I have a very rich imagination. Sometimes I think my fantasy/dream life is more true to me than reality. Neptune is in the 6th house of daily habits. So yeah, I daydream a lot. I can't even remember a day I didn't do it. It's part of my everyday life.

I don't know how others see me or how I come across coz most of the time I'm oblivious. I'm busy in my own world.

Anyone has this aspect as well? What's your experience?

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StacyLewis
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posted December 28, 2012 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StacyLewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Particularly? Actually, that's true *only* for those who have the two in hard aspect to one another. It would cause conflict between the self (or the ego) things of the Neptunian realm. Issues with reality, and the sense of self, the sort of things described in that first interpretation you posted.

I have the two in aspect, but it's a *trine*, and at a fairly wide-orb - I inherited it from my mom, who also had the two trining one another. My father was present in the home for most of my childhood; my parents didn't break up until I was about 16.

I have *very* good self-esteem too, and at the same, time, I'm honest with myself about my shortcomings so I don't have issues with self-delusion or any of the other things outlined in the explanations of the hard aspects. I can tell you in a second flat, all the things that make me awesome. I can also tell you just as fast, where all my shortcomings are. I've always been hyper self-aware in that respect.

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soulstress
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posted December 28, 2012 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soulstress     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^Okay. I take it back.

Anyways, my mom has the trine. Wish I had the trine as well.
My father was ABSENT. He left us even before I was born. And I met him when I was already 8 years old. When I finally met him, I was just indifferent. His presence didn't matter to me. There was no yearning or love--nothing.

I'm aware of my weaknesses too. I don't need anyone to tell me what those are. Good for you for having 'very good' self-esteem. I think those who have the hard aspects mostly(?) have self-esteem issues.

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birdy
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posted December 28, 2012 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Obama is a great example of Sun sq Neptune.

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soulstress
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posted December 28, 2012 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soulstress     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How so?

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birdy
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posted December 28, 2012 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His father was missing. He has a hate/love relationship with the public. Some feel they cant pinpoint who he really is and what he believes. He has engaged in drugs in his youth. Known to be a bleeding heart liberal. So that whole "forgiving heart and powerful compassionate streak". Lying to get out of the hot seat..but thats what people in politics do.

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soulstress
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posted December 28, 2012 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soulstress     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^Yeah, I've read just now about him having this aspect and I agree.

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hannaramaa
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posted December 28, 2012 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do Sun/Neptune squares or Mars/Neptune squares make it difficult for the individual to use their instincts? Obviously they will have them but does this particular square weaken their use?

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posted December 28, 2012 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also have this aspect, AND Mercury, Venus both square Neptune as well. My father has been in my life but traveled a lot and was unavailable in some ways. However it's not like I knew any of this til my later years. He's always been "Dad."

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iQ
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posted December 29, 2012 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune in 6th is very stressful as it creates the maximum chances of self sabotage. When it afflicts Sun from here, one can self sabotage by giving up easily, imagining that one has done the routine tasks sufficient well [when she has not] and so on. Substance abuse is too common for men with 6th House Neptune squaring Sun.

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soulstress
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posted December 29, 2012 05:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soulstress     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Do Sun/Neptune squares or Mars/Neptune squares make it difficult for the individual to use their instincts? Obviously they will have them but does this particular square weaken their use?

I don't know with the others but mine isn't weak. I have Mars conjunct Neptune. It is very strong and I use it so well.

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soulstress
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posted December 29, 2012 05:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soulstress     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I also have this aspect, AND Mercury, Venus both square Neptune as well. My father has been in my life but traveled a lot and was unavailable in some ways. However it's not like I knew any of this til my later years. He's always been "Dad."

Good for you. I was unfortunate to have my father coz I didn't get any support from him.

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soulstress
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posted December 29, 2012 05:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soulstress     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
Neptune in 6th is very stressful as it creates the maximum chances of self sabotage. When it afflicts Sun from here, one can self sabotage by giving up easily, imagining that one has done the routine tasks sufficient well [when she has not] and so on. Substance abuse is too common for men with 6th House Neptune squaring Sun.

I didn't try to indulge myself to that kind of vice. Though sometimes I get depressed, I didn't think of trying it. But I was drawn to other forms of escapism.

Sun also squares Moon and Ascendant.
Inner conflicts.

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birdy
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posted December 30, 2012 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by soulstress:
I don't know with the others but mine isn't weak. I have Mars conjunct Neptune. It is very strong and I use it so well.


Wow you have Sun sq Neptune and Mars conj NEPTUNE? Does your sun also square mars? Hows your romantic life? Im curious what kind of people you attract because that sounds intense.

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12thhouser
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posted December 30, 2012 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by birdy:
His father was missing. He has a hate/love relationship with the public. Some feel they cant pinpoint who he really is and what he believes. He has engaged in drugs in his youth. Known to be a bleeding heart liberal. So that whole "forgiving heart and powerful compassionate streak". Lying to get out of the hot seat..but thats what people in politics do.

lol, okay, what is it you think he lied about to get out of the hot seat?

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birdy
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posted December 30, 2012 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
lol, okay, what is it you think he lied about to get out of the hot seat?

Hey, I voted for the guy..but Im not naive to think he has never lied to the public. I think he has better intentions than most politicans. I don't want to make this political..so that's all I'm going to say.

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soulstress
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posted December 31, 2012 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soulstress     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

quote:
Originally posted by birdy:
Wow you have Sun sq Neptune and Mars conj NEPTUNE? Does your sun also square mars? Hows your romantic life? Im curious what kind of people you attract because that sounds intense.

eh? What's up with Mars conj Neptune? What do you think what kind of people I attract?
Well, I noticed I attract messed up, highly sexual people..mentally unstable people ..plutonian types (I blame that on my Venus opp Pluto though). These people sometimes scares me. I felt like I have to be cautious when I'm around them.

Romantic life is messed up. Don't ask why. lol.

Yeah, I have Sun square Mars, but it's too wide square so it's not counted.

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anno_lucis
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posted January 01, 2013 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anno_lucis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
Neptune in 6th is very stressful as it creates the maximum chances of self sabotage. When it afflicts Sun from here, one can self sabotage by giving up easily, imagining that one has done the routine tasks sufficient well [when she has not] and so on. Substance abuse is too common for men with 6th House Neptune squaring Sun.

sixth house sun squaring 3rd house nep, can u get out of my head now plz?

i've achieved a lot but i am also a pro self saboteur. it's a battle. and my dad's a myth. he just returns from the mist occasionally to shake a finger of disapproval. :rollseyes: we're cool though.

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