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Topic: Signs that someone is cheating or lying
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Astro keen
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posted December 30, 2012 03:30 AM
  
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
That's interesting what you say about you obsessing about him, with your Venus trine his Pluto. Astrology sites seem to indicate it would be the Pluto person obsessing over the Venus person, but I guess that's textbook interpretation versus your real life experience.
Hi 12thhouser, would you know anything about a 12th house stellium in a composite? Sun, Mercury, Jupiter Mars and Eros too. Not venus this time, that's in the 1st. He has kept me a secret so far, whilst I haven't. Which makes me wonder if he has something to hide. IP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted December 30, 2012 08:03 AM
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Hi 12thhouser, would you know anything about a 12th house stellium in a composite? Sun, Mercury, Jupiter Mars and Eros too. Not venus this time, that's in the 1st. He has kept me a secret so far, whilst I haven't. Which makes me wonder if he has something to hide.
In a composite? Sorry, not as familiar with 12th house composite stelliums. I have a 12th house Sun, Moon, Mercury, and a 12th house/1st house Venus natally. How exactly is he keeping you a secret? Not sharing with his friends and family that you two are a couple? IP: Logged |
Astro keen
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posted December 30, 2012 09:05 AM
Yes, not telling anyone. It may be the case that he is being careful, or I am being deceived completely and utterly. IP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted December 30, 2012 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Yes, not telling anyone. Because we have a distant relationship, we live in different countries and have only met twice in our 1st year, it may be the case that he is being careful, or I am being deceived completely and utterly.
With a 12th house stellium in a composite chart, I'm not sure. Sorry. IP: Logged |
Haplesschild*
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posted December 30, 2012 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Yes, not telling anyone. It may be the case that he is being careful, or I am being deceived completely and utterly.
Sorry but it sounds like he might be playing you  how can you be sure he isn't cheating? Like it's a LDR, you can't keep track of what he does everyday...
Why must he keep you a complete secret? How long have you been with him for? What is he being careful of? I've kept most of my exes secret from my parents but that's because they're overbearing and controlling and I know if I were to introduce them they'd scare the guy off with their questions lol... But this guy has no excuse. IP: Logged |
Astro keen
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posted December 30, 2012 12:59 PM
Just over a year. He works abroad and lives alone (or so he says), and his family consists of siblings. It is understandable that he may not want to share his personal life with them unless he's absolutely sure about us. What concerns me most is that he prefers to visit me, which he can't often, rather than have me visit him. IP: Logged |
Geeky
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posted December 30, 2012 02:52 PM
I'll look at my ex-husband's aspects and let you know LOL! He does have a Sag sun but that's only part of the picture. He cheated on me, his ex-wife, and the ex-wife before... and to my knowledge, all of his girlfriends. I wish I knew that going in. *headslap*------------------
"Most people would rather be sheep and have company than stand out on their own with antlers on."
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Geeky
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posted December 30, 2012 02:57 PM
And to those that say "I don't lie"... I quote Hugh Laurie as Greg House:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZR2k5c_198 ------------------
"Most people would rather be sheep and have company than stand out on their own with antlers on."
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Haplesschild*
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posted December 30, 2012 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Just over a year. He works abroad and lives alone (or so he says), and his family consists of siblings. It is understandable that he may not want to share his personal life with them unless he's absolutely sure about us. What concerns me most is that he prefers to visit me, which he can't often, rather than have me visit him.
Have you ever seen his place? He could be married for all you know? Alot of people lead double lives on the net.
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Geeky
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posted December 30, 2012 03:06 PM
Update: The ex-husband (referenced above) has...Sag Sun
Sag Asc
Gemini Moon
Merc in Sag
Venus in Scorp
Scorpio in Mars
lots of negative Pluto aspects...etc.
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"Most people would rather be sheep and have company than stand out on their own with antlers on."
— Tori Amos
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Astro keen
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posted December 30, 2012 03:09 PM
No, never seen his place. Nor have his address. Yes, he could have lied about being single. But, nothing in his natal chart seems to arouse suspicion. He seems very, very honest in what he says. Or I am only too keen to idealise and believe.IP: Logged |
Haplesschild*
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posted December 30, 2012 03:15 PM
Sag aspects don't go well with Gem, just like Gem aspects with Pisces have a tendency to be duplicitous as hell. quote:
Originally posted by Geeky:
Update: The ex-husband (referenced above) has...Sag Sun
Sag Asc
Gemini Moon
Merc in Sag
Venus in Scorp
Scorpio in Mars
lots of negative Pluto aspects...etc.
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Haplesschild*
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posted December 30, 2012 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
No, never seen his place. Nor have his address. Yes, he could have lied about being single. But, nothing in his natal chart seems to arouse suspicion. He seems very, very honest in what he says. Or I am only too keen to idealise and believe.
Some guys are extremely convincing liars. Sounds really sus that he hasn't even told you where he lived? It's not really about ones chart. I'd check records to see if his house is under two names or not. IP: Logged |
Geeky
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posted December 30, 2012 03:40 PM
I'd say he's either lying about his status/living situation OR he just isn't sure about your relationship. Either way, it doesn't look good. Did you meet him before he moved overseas? Or has this been mostly an online/distance romance? ------------------
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Astro keen
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posted December 30, 2012 04:00 PM
We met online and we've met twice so far. The last time he came and stayed at my house. So he should trust me, shouldn't he, since I trust him? I continue to find excuses to explain his behaviour and give him every benefit of the doubt. I did this with my lying and cheating husband too. Oh heck, this is not looking good! IP: Logged |
Geeky
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posted December 30, 2012 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
We met online and we've met twice so far. The last time he came and stayed at my house. So he should trust me, shouldn't he, since I trust him? I continue to find excuses to explain his behaviour and give him every benefit of the doubt. I did this with my lying and cheating husband too. Oh heck, this is not looking good!
It's time to have a discussion with him, I think. Even if he tells you that you are insane it's better than letting it fester right? ((hug)) Whatever happens, I hope you get through this day & these doubts with ease. ------------------
"Most people would rather be sheep and have company than stand out on their own with antlers on."
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Haplesschild*
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posted December 30, 2012 05:09 PM
If he hesitates, gets defensive or starts turning things on you, end it. Either way it's weird and he should be telling his siblings and other ppl about you...It's been a year. It's not like you just met.^ I'd leave especially if he tells her she's crazy, paranoid or the classic 'omg, don't you trust me?' Classic cheater behaviour. IP: Logged |
Geeky
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posted December 30, 2012 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by Haplesschild*:
If he hesitates, gets defensive or starts turning things on you, end it. Either way it's weird and he should be telling his siblings and other ppl about you...It's been a year. It's not like you just met.^ I'd leave especially if he tells her she's crazy, paranoid or the classic 'omg, don't you trust me?' Classic cheater behaviour.
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Astro keen
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posted December 30, 2012 06:15 PM
Thanks. It really helps to have this support from you.IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted December 31, 2012 03:09 PM
Venus in Gemini, Moon in Gemini. IP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted December 31, 2012 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by Gemmy:
My venus was trine his sun/pluto conjunction and opposite his neptune.Very tight orbs.I definitely felt the pluto trine.I was pretty obsessed with him. 
But his sun/pluto did trine my gem stellium.The 12th house synastry?
Trust wasn't there,no matter how hard I tried.
He kept me a secret.I always felt like he didn't want to be seen with me.
And he did lie alot.
Hi Gemmy, me again (hope you see this)... what sign is his Pluto in? I'm guessing Libra but wanted to have you confirm (I scrolled but didn't see you say which sign)
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Geeky
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posted January 01, 2013 04:46 PM
Astro keen: How are you today?------------------
"Most people would rather be sheep and have company than stand out on their own with antlers on."
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Astro keen
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posted January 01, 2013 11:02 PM
Thanks for asking Geeky. Am worried, anxious but biding my time till we (my bf and I) talk again. The notion that I was being lied to was suggested on this site by a tarot reading. She wasn't accurate with everyone though. Also a couple of people mentioned that my Venus falling in his 12th house could mean deception. And then, of course, I began to think along those lines too. Still hoping for the best A very happy new year to you. IP: Logged |
Geeky
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posted January 02, 2013 12:36 AM
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Thanks for asking Geeky. Am worried, anxious but biding my time till we (my bf and I) talk again. The notion that I was being lied to was suggested on this site by a tarot reading. She wasn't accurate with everyone though. Also a couple of people mentioned that my Venus falling in his 12th house could mean deception. And then, of course, I began to think along those lines too. Still hoping for the best A very happy new year to you.
Happy New Year to you a well! My wish for you is that you get your questions answered so you can breathe a little easier! ------------------
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