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Topic: Planets in Detriment/Fall in Relation to Karma
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bridgetostars23
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posted December 30, 2012 06:08 AM
  
I asked this question on another thread and thought it might be good to ask everyone: do you think having planets in fall or detriment is to serve a karmic lesson and or serve another spirtual purpose?IP: Logged |
Gemmy
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posted December 30, 2012 07:02 AM
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bridgetostars23
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posted December 30, 2012 02:24 PM
So in following that logic, the more challenging a chart looks would that mean there is a pressure on that person to learn their lessons, etc because they have been doing it for so long or maybe they have not yet begun to try? Basically I'm wondering how you can learn about someone's past life (or spirtual contract if you don't necessarily believe in past lives)based on the birth chart. I'm going to do some research and see what I find.IP: Logged |
Gemmy
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posted December 30, 2012 06:30 PM
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ail221
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posted December 30, 2012 08:34 PM
Yes and No, immediately when I think of Karma I think of Jupiter, Saturn, and the North Node/South Node. But you could have a exalted planet but if it doesn't make any other connections with other parts of your natal chart it may not be prevalent . Plus you have to include the degrees of the planets :
Sun: 19th degree of Aries (i.e., 18°00' - 18°59')
Moon: 3rd degree of Taurus
Mercury: 15th degree of Virgo
Venus: 27th degree of Pisces
Mars: 28th degree of Capricorn
Jupiter: 5th degree of Cancer
Saturn: 21st degree of Libra
Are exalted signs and degrees.But asides from that Jupiter 12 yrs and Saturn 29.5 yrs having orbits different from the inner planets and outer planets. There's the mythology heavy weights so to speak, usually the King of all gods represents Jupiter and Saturn "The father of the gods". I wouldn't necessarily say a more challenging chart would mean there's a pressure for that person to learn those lessons. Perhaps that person is a extremely old soul or even a young old. IP: Logged |
Gemmy
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posted December 30, 2012 08:51 PM
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12thhouser
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posted December 30, 2012 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by Gemmy:
Yeah,exactly.  You can also check what phase of the moon a person was born under. I can't remember the site I read that,but I'll come back and add a link if I find it.
You can check what phase of the moon someone was born under just by looking at their chart in relation to their sun. For example, if someone hs an Aries sun and Cancer moon, they'll have been born under a waxing quarter moon (that looks like half the moon is missing). If an Aries sun has a Libra moon, it'l be a full moon; Aries sun and Cap moon will be a waning quarter moon, etc..
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Gemmy
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posted December 30, 2012 09:07 PM
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bridgetostars23
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posted December 30, 2012 10:10 PM
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Originally posted by Gemmy:
Moon phases http://www.astrodreamadvisor.com/Moon_Phases.html Mine is the last phase.I think I'm an old soul and dealing with alot of karma.
Okay. Just checked mine. It is in the last phase as well.....oh man maybe that's why I am feeling the pressure? Now I'm going to read the other posts on here... IP: Logged |
bridgetostars23
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posted December 30, 2012 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by ail221:
Yes and No, immediately when I think of Karma I think of Jupiter, Saturn, and the North Node/South Node. But you could have a exalted planet but if it doesn't make any other connections with other parts of your natal chart it may not be prevalent . Plus you have to include the degrees of the planets :
Sun: 19th degree of Aries (i.e., 18°00' - 18°59')
Moon: 3rd degree of Taurus
Mercury: 15th degree of Virgo
Venus: 27th degree of Pisces
Mars: 28th degree of Capricorn
Jupiter: 5th degree of Cancer
Saturn: 21st degree of Libra
Are exalted signs and degrees.But asides from that Jupiter 12 yrs and Saturn 29.5 yrs having orbits different from the inner planets and outer planets. There's the mythology heavy weights so to speak, usually the King of all gods represents Jupiter and Saturn "The father of the gods". I wouldn't necessarily say a more challenging chart would mean there's a pressure for that person to learn those lessons. Perhaps that person is a extremely old soul or even a young old.
So, a person with exalted planets is getting rewarded? IP: Logged |
ail221
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posted December 30, 2012 10:57 PM
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Originally posted by bridgetostars23:
So, a person with exalted planets is getting rewarded?
I wouldn't necessarily say the word "rewarded" because were discussing western astrology not vedic. Exalted planets are in the best position for that planet to be in even more so when it positively aspects other parts of the chart. IP: Logged |
peachbeigeblue
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posted December 30, 2012 10:58 PM
I'm last quarter moon. Thanks for the link IP: Logged |
Geeky
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posted December 30, 2012 11:01 PM
I don't think so. I have retro planets and I also have two planets in detriment. We can't knowingly choose when we are born. Sure, when a fetus is ready it sends signals and triggers hormones, etc. But what about those of us who were c-section'd outta the womb in a jiffy because mom was dying?How could I be given bad karma before I even take my first breath? Was I am evil little turd in the womb? My astrology didn't matter because I wasn't allowed my own free will, know what I mean? So at what point do we decide that astrology does not dictate our every move. At what point do we decide some things are just coincidence, bad luck, or karma? ------------------
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Geeky
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posted December 30, 2012 11:05 PM
I found a description about being born under a first quarter moon and actually, it's pretty darn accurate for me. "The First Quarter Moon rises at noon and sets at around midnight. People born under this phase of the moon are masters at handling crisis and do well when springing to action during emergencies. They are highly capable of making immediate critical decisions and then acting upon them. These are the pioneers of this world and they will probably unintentionally create conflict all around them while challenging anyone in their path. These are very ambitious and self-motivated people who are armed with a strong desire to achieve."
http://voices.yahoo.com/the-significance-moon-phases-birth-541017.html ------------------
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bridgetostars23
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posted December 31, 2012 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by Geeky:
I don't think so. I have retro planets and I also have two planets in detriment. We can't knowingly choose when we are born. Sure, when a fetus is ready it sends signals and triggers hormones, etc. But what about those of us who were c-section'd outta the womb in a jiffy because mom was dying?How could I be given bad karma before I even take my first breath? Was I am evil little turd in the womb? My astrology didn't matter because I wasn't allowed my own free will, know what I mean? So at what point do we decide that astrology does not dictate our every move. At what point do we decide some things are just coincidence, bad luck, or karma?
Well I was actually thinking it might not be bad karma but actually.....older karma? Like okay dude time to take care of these patterns! But honestly, I really am over my head here. But I'm so curious!
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Gemmy
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posted December 31, 2012 12:05 AM
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StacyLewis
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posted December 31, 2012 01:31 AM
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Originally posted by bridgetostars23:
I asked this question on another thread and thought it might be good to ask everyone: do you think having planets in fall or detriment is to serve a karmic lesson and or serve another spirtual purpose?
Nope, because Saturn is karma. IP: Logged |
bridgetostars23
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posted December 31, 2012 03:20 AM
Sagittarius Saturn in the 11th house.
saturn trine moon
saturn conjunct mercury
Saturn square venus
saturn square jupiter
saturn opposite chiron
saturn conjunct uranus
saturn trine north node
I'm also a Capricorn and Capricorn Rising in the 12th.
Now researching Saturn. IP: Logged |
Gemmy
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posted December 31, 2012 05:38 AM
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