posted January 01, 2013 05:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Lazyscarecrow:
The opposite of those go-getter, crush everyone in your way to get to the top types. The type who is sort of apathetic to this sort of thing, or afraid of it as mentioned. Unwilling to change to fit into certain criteria required to move onward.

I am looking for aspects and placements, but transits and patterns and other Astrology are okay...

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The thing you have to remember is that you can lack ambition and that "killer-instinct" thing, and not have a fear of success. It's possible to not be afraid of it whatsoever, you just don't care about it very much and it doesn't hold much interest for you.

To some extent I'm that way, pretty much all I want to do with my life is go to college, finish, become a librarian and buy my own house. I have no desire to try and get rich, or claw my way to the top of the business world and be a millionaire CEO. I like the idea of having my weekends and weeknights free and being able to stop and breathe and live my life. I'm not competitive either, which probably plays into it alot.

I have Mars in Cancer, four planets in Libra, and Uranus conjunct the midheaven about four degrees away from my tenth house.My tenth house cusp is Sag. My second house cusp is Pisces. My sixth house (work) cusp is Cancer.

For that ruthless ambition thing, that has to be Martian (competitiveness, aggression) in nature, along with maybe Pluto (love of power), along with Saturn (likes the idea of being in authority and having a title or "status")...I'd peg it on the signs Aries, Scorpio, and Capricorn.

posted January 02, 2013 04:44 AM            

Venusians are happy joyous and have a pleasant personality: balanced, generous and agreeable as well as fun loving and sympathetic. They are physically attractive (described as beautiful) and at peace with their family and the world, passionate and amorous in love. This is a sensual type. Venusians will never dessert their friends in their hours of need. They are compassionate and unselfish. The comforts of family and home are primary to their nature and they do not desire great wealth or are particularly ambitious beyond embracing their joy of achieving a balanced life. They are talented, enjoy the melody of music, love to dance and are graceful. Their pure type is honest and truthful in dealing with their fellow man. Venusians are born of the earth, grounded and steady as well as having an extensive social life and only seeing the bright side in life. This type would never commit suicide.

Professions: They are the life of any company they work for. Venusians do not value riches or wish to assume responsibility and are found in all walks of life that do not impose stress on this personality. They write well (are sentimental), are actors and actresses and musicians pursuing careers that will allow them to touch people’s hearts, sometimes taking on tragic parts that they utilize to skillfully move the audience to tears with the sincerity of their performance. They are drawn to the romance of the light opera (Puccini) and their resonant voice may lead them to become Tenors. They prefer jobs that are structured as they insist on a rhythm in their life, avoiding extremes.

posted January 02, 2013 07:49 AM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Way too many trines/sextiles and no square/oppositions...? That's be my guess.

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Wow I have this, kind of. I have no oppositions and only a generational square, so voids in these, basically. I have a fear of success, but I am overcoming it, little by little, as I get successful. Luckily, God moves slowly

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posted January 03, 2013 01:45 AM            

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Originally posted by watermonkey:
Chiron in 2nd or 3rd house, chiron in leo.

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Out of curiousity, why Chiron in Leo/ Chiron in the 2nd & 3rd house?

posted January 03, 2013 03:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Lazyscarecrow:
Out of curiousity, why Chiron in Leo/ Chiron in the 2nd & 3rd house?

When I am not so dead tired, I'll get to everyone else's response. Thank you for your inputs.

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I have Leo chiron in the 5th house, and I agree it does give me a fear in success.

This is a good example:

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On the negative side, it could be an indicator that, as children, their creativity was either stifled or over stimulated. Some were blocked or ridiculed, ("Are you kidding? You'll never be a professional baseball player, or musician, or artist") while others were pushed by ambitious parents who liked to live through the child ("Hey, come to the Little League game and watch my kid play third base" or "My child is starring in the school play today").

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posted January 03, 2013 06:58 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
Being Venus dominant? Thank god I have Pluto, mars, Saturn as dominants too lol!

Venusians are happy joyous and have a pleasant personality: balanced, generous and agreeable as well as fun loving and sympathetic. They are physically attractive (described as beautiful) and at peace with their family and the world, passionate and amorous in love. This is a sensual type. Venusians will never dessert their friends in their hours of need. They are compassionate and unselfish. The comforts of family and home are primary to their nature and they do not desire great wealth or are particularly ambitious beyond embracing their joy of achieving a balanced life. They are talented, enjoy the melody of music, love to dance and are graceful. Their pure type is honest and truthful in dealing with their fellow man. Venusians are born of the earth, grounded and steady as well as having an extensive social life and only seeing the bright side in life. This type would never commit suicide.

Professions: They are the life of any company they work for. Venusians do not value riches or wish to assume responsibility and are found in all walks of life that do not impose stress on this personality. They write well (are sentimental), are actors and actresses and musicians pursuing careers that will allow them to touch people’s hearts, sometimes taking on tragic parts that they utilize to skillfully move the audience to tears with the sincerity of their performance. They are drawn to the romance of the light opera (Puccini) and their resonant voice may lead them to become Tenors. They prefer jobs that are structured as they insist on a rhythm in their life, avoiding extremes.

Faults: It is difficult to attach faults to this type as they are generally so well balanced And free of many of the extreme tendencies of other types. They are always agreeable, never fickle, exude kindness, sympathy and tenderness to their friends and family. Their personality drives away selfishness, coldness and greediness of others and replaces it with generosity, warmth and love. Occasionally, driven by their desire to get along with everyone and avoid controversy a t all costs, they can be careless in their decisions. Venusians strong physical passions may lead them down some crooked paths and create complications when they are young but this is not common as they control their strong desires and are deeply moral. Some may fault them for lack of ambition and bypassing the climb up the corporate ladder. They are not lazy, just disinterested in the brutal competition those goals would create. They have no criminal or suicidal tendencies. As Venusians have a healthy appetite they must guard against a tendency to gain weight.

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Where did you get this interpretation? Venus is my strongest planet, and this is the most accurate thing I've ever read.

Notice though it says nothing about a fear of success, just that we don't care about it and don't like the dog-eat-dog thing that you have to participate in to get to it.

I think that's the initial problem with the first post also, is that it lumps a disinterest in success with a fear of it, when they're two different things entirely. There's people out there who want to be billionaire CEOs and are too afraid to try; and there's, again - people like in the interpretation you just posted, who just don't care about the rat-race and clawing to the top of some field.

I think too that part of the problem here is that in society we're all inundated from the time we're born with the idea that material success and super-high career standing is *every*thing and that we should be willing to do any and everything, and devote our entire lives to, trying to achieve that. This gets ingrained in us from the time we're knee-high.

posted January 03, 2013 08:27 AM            

Chiron in the 2nd house: Chiron teaches and gives advise. The 2nd house is money, possessions, and values. You can show other people how to take care of their money better than you take care of your own. In fact, your own finances could be a mess. Sometimes, this placement can make for a miser, but the money collected never brings any pleasure or get rid of the inner fear that there will be no resources. Most likely, this is because the person has a low sense of self-worth and feels that they don't really deserve any money or possessions. In other cases, they may squander or give away what they have for the same reason. It is important to remember that if there are problems with money or possessions, that these are most likely not the real issue. The sense of self-worth is the key here.

and sorry chiron in 3rd house was a typo, you could see more in the link below

Source : http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/Chiron21.5.html

posted January 03, 2013 11:59 PM            

Thanks for sharing that article, Sand. I would've never guesed an extreme emphasis on Venus would have caused this sort of thing... Venus may be more laid-back and mellow in contrast to Mars but for some reason I kept picturing one who still pursues luxury, but this is not the same as pursuing high goals and knocking down everyone in the path.

Interesting that everyone else mentioned Saturn configurations. I do think Saturn likes to see physical evidence of their achievement, hence why they may be very success-oriented. And the sign of Capricorn is Earth, which is physical and material-oriented. Taurus too, and Virgo to a more subtle degree.

posted January 04, 2013 12:11 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
What does a grand trine do?

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posted January 04, 2013 12:12 AM            

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Thanks for sharing that article, Sand. I would've never guesed an extreme emphasis on Venus would have caused this sort of thing... Venus may be more laid-back and mellow in contrast to Mars but for some reason I kept picturing one who still pursues luxury, but this is not the same as pursuing high goals and knocking down everyone in the path.

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I would trade it all for something that is real.

My Venus in taurus h7 reminds me of that Matt Damon movie the adjustment bureau.. Like if he were to pursue a girl but he'd be to happy and not go down the path he was meant for, president, because he would be content. It squares me Leo moon in tenth. I always have a hard time balancing relationships and women. I mean work ehehe! Relationships and work.