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Lola136
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posted January 05, 2013 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lola136     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eris conjuncts IC(opposite MC),semi square venus..dont know what it means

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posted January 05, 2013 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Every asteroid is an energy. Each is a spectrum of the human experience. Each chart has struggles and gifts. One has to accept the weak parts and play on the strong parts, as I view the chart, anyway.

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posted January 05, 2013 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lola136:
Eris conjuncts IC(opposite MC),semi square venus..dont know what it means

Did your early home have a very erratic feeling to it, like energy jumping all around, like a mosquito, or the feeling of a light bulb flickering and how that makes you feel?

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posted January 05, 2013 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lola136     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Did your early home have a very erratic feeling to it, like energy jumping all around, like a mosquito, or the feeling of a light bulb flickering and how that makes you feel?

I dont understand..sorry


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posted January 05, 2013 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok Was there a feeling in your home of a frenetic feeling. Do you know what I mean by that? Like scattered energies or a strobe light. Have you ever been on a dance floor with a strobe light. Eris feels like that to me, like a lot of harried and face paced energy that really does not go anywhere, like the saying " a person running around like a chicken with his head cut off"

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posted January 05, 2013 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lola136     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh..I guess it was in a way. Now that i think about it..I hated it,still do

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posted January 05, 2013 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lola136:
Oh..I guess it was in a way. Now that i think about it..I hated it,still do

Can you please explain, as I learn from the people who have the aspect in their chart. the charts are my teachers, more than anything else.

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posted January 05, 2013 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lola136     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont know if this is what you meant but here it is..I never really had a good relationship with my father..he was almost never home(work) and when he was it would just make me feel weird and depressed cuz he and my mom didnt have a good relationship aswell..but sometimes it felt like he understood me better than my mother then sometimes the other way around.. And the energies at my home would change day to day, depending on how the two above would act with eachother..Its kinda hard to explain..lol

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Okay, I'll bite....

Because Eris is such a new planet, it is difficult to speak in a matter of fact way about her. We have some mythology to mine for information, but like the other planets, the myth only plays out so much in an astrological sense.

Mythology

There are two "commonly known" accounts of Eris in mythology. The first reads like every Disney movie ever created and the second is a direct description of Eris's dual nature.

In the fairytale, Eris is excluded from a wedding celebration (because she was known to be a sloppy drunk). Angry at being snubbed, she creates a golden apple inscribed with the message "For the Fairest" and rolls it into the room. Soon vanity overcomes the party and after beating down some minor goddesses, Athena, Hera, and Aphrodite remain, bickering over who the apple was obviously intended for. First they turn to Zeus to sort the problem out, but he quickly strafes and passes the responsibility off to Paris (a mortal).

The goddesses visit Paris and secretly tempt him with gifts in exchange for his favor. Athena offers victory in battle, Hera offers political success, and Aphrodite offers him the hand of whatever woman he finds most beautiful. Intending to gain the hand of Aphrodite herself, Paris awards the apple to Aphrodite. He is soon disappointed however, because Aphrodite is a goddess, not a woman, and therefor made herself ineligible for Paris's selection. Paris instead chooses Helen of Troy as his prize, and that results in the Trojan War... Moral of the story: Always invite Eris.

The second source of information talks about Eris having a dual nature, or the existence of two Erises. The first Eris is the sister of Mars and well after a war is won, she remains on the battlefield, reveling in the blood and anguish of the fallen. The second Eris inspires competition in humanity. She is the force which causes a person to look at their neighbor's car, home, and family, and desire to build something more fulfilling in their own life.

This article has a good description of Ceres, Pluto, and Eris and goes on to talk about how Eris manifests in the chart. I enjoyed it. Good Article


From My own Experience - I have a little obsession with Eris and have been paying a lot of attention to her place in my own chart, over the past several years. Here is my take on Eris:

Each planet has a deep, existential expression and a superficial, mundane expression. Venus for example is well known as "that which we find beautiful or attractive", yet the more existential expression of Venus points to the objects and concepts we choose to interact with in the hopes of establishing a sensually associative concept of self (I like these things, so I must be "this" kind of person).

Personal Manifestation

Eris (also known as Discordia) is an energy which superficially inspires separation and exclusivity. Without positive or negative aspects, it is the force which sees self as separate from environment. This is an essential element in the business of being a self, but when poorly aspected, it can lead to personal isolation, rejection of one's symbiotic space in the world, it can manifest as being forced into isolation by outside forces, and lack of a broad perspective can lead to a disconnected life. This can especially show up in our generation of Eris in Aries, as Aries keeps running, regardless of all the stop signs posted along the way. Without good brakes, Eris will ride Aries well into ruin. Like Neptune, Eris also deals in trickery, but Eris is more at home with ignorance than illusion. Depending on where Eris is and who she is playing with, all sorts of outcomes can manifest. For Aries Eris, the ignorance is usually about separation to establish one's self, independence at the cost of healthy connections, or even anger at being made to feel separate from others.

When positive aspects are made, Eris gains benefit from separation and contrast with others (learning more about one's self, in Aries's case). In this situation a child may endure a neglectful childhood, but reap an abundant life from the independence they were forced to establish. A sextile between natal Eris and natal Venus for example, could inspire one to actively retreat from the world as a source of artistic inspiration. Another facet to Eris seems to be that there is always a lesson to learn, a piece of wisdom we either choose to discover, or brutally overlook.

Eris has been particularly active in my chart over the past several years. A couple years ago I quit my job, sold my car, canceled my phone, and went to live in a monastery. This happened the same day the Sun entered my natal Eris's degree. Soon after that, I decided I wanted to get some land and homestead out in the middle of nowhere. When I first stepped on to the property I eventually purchased, it was the day the Sun transited my natal Eris's degree again. In both situations I retreated to solitude (natal Eris is in my 12th), with the intention of completely shutting out the world. Both experiences eventually lead to my seeing the longing for isolation and deciding to turn the land I purchased into a community food forest (instead of a crazy mountain man farm). All this happened before I realized the Eris transits.

Spiritual Manifestation

Astrology tells a story about how our perceived universe is shaped. The planet furthest out has always represented the metaphoric boundaries of our universe. When Saturn was king, the universe was bound by time, age, and the decomposition of forms/structures. Later on, Pluto ruled the edge and our universe found new boundaries in sweeping cycles of creation and obliteration. The mind/psyche became as important as the body, and death became less of an end and more a transition into one's legacy. Now Eris is the planet/plutoid which dances at the edge of our universe and with her she brings a new perspective.

From the physical to the quantum scale, there is a very undeniable truth, everything is connected. We quite literally, are "One" and any idea to the contrary is just not physically true. As our technology progresses, we discover more and more that the universe is a vast singularity. From a metaphysical perspective self is not unique, but a universal principal and the only time self experiences uniqueness (or sense of self), is when it arises out of the churning singularity like a wave. So with all this evidence to the contrary, why are we so obsessed with seeing the world as any possible form of "separate" we can conjure?

I believe Eris may indicate that we arise as separate, but return to the whole like a great wave, crashing back into the ocean. I believe her message states that being invested in the world as "separate" is both important and misleading. I also believe Eris indicates that the universe is bound by paradox. "Everything, every concept, every sense is empty...Filled to its capacity with infinite space....Oh, and don't forget to feed the cat."

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posted January 05, 2013 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lola136:
I dont know if this is what you meant but here it is..I never really had a good relationship with my father..he was almost never home(work) and when he was it would just make me feel weird and depressed cuz he and my mom didnt have a good relationship aswell..but sometimes it felt like he understood me better than my mother then sometimes the other way around.. And the energies at my home would change day to day, depending on how the two above would act with eachother..Its kinda hard to explain..lol

Did it feel like a mosquito buzzing or a strobe light, if you can say? Like a kind of rushed energy where everyone was running around and being loud, but nothing got done, so it was kind of like that all the time( or most of it)

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posted January 05, 2013 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lola136     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Did it feel like a mosquito buzzing or a strobe light, if you can say? Like a kind of rushed energy where everyone was running around and being loud, but nothing got done, so it was kind of like that all the time( or most of it)


It kinda was..

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posted January 05, 2013 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lola136:
It kinda was..



Yep, the chart never lies!

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posted January 05, 2013 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stellar_moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I don't think Eris is bad as people think.
A lot of controversial women like Brigitte bardot had Sun opp Eris.
Angelina Jolie is Moon conjunct Eris.

"Eris is left out of the party once more. This time though she has taken down mighty Pluto too, infact Eris will take everyone down with her if she feels she has been treated unfairly or disrespected. She exposes hypocrisy and takes and eye for an eye.
The activist, the radical feminist, the bohemian artist and joker are all in there. To me Eris has a surreal, psychedelic circus mania about her. Punk crossed with Sgt Pepper, a carnival warrior, spray-can militant, vampire slaying, queen of chaotic fate that is Eris."


Finding her in my 7H explains soooo much about me actually. "The whistle blower" feminine activism....I am not an easy person to be in a relationship with, and if a man even so much as TRIES to undermine my femininity, I want to destroy them. I consider myself bisexual and attracted to women too, I wonder if Eris plays a part in that. My partners Eris is conjunct mine with an orb of 3 degrees and his falls in my 7H too. Mine falls in his 12th. Also, he has Eris opposite Sun, where I have it squared. VERY interesting. Thank you so much for this thread.

This is interesting as well, the house opposite:

"Eris Is Your Opposite Number
In researching Eris’s behavior I have noticed that the zone or house opposite to the one Eris occupies in your birth chart is where her troubles can be the most obvious. It is where the apple of discord after being thrown actually lands. This area is often the 'fallout zone'. It is here where you may experience some stiff rivalry, somewhat underhand tactics and sometimes surprise intrusions. This place can also be the dumping ground for all the detritus of battle. Trouble and strife appears here when you ignore your own Eris and when you disown your inner troublemaker or pot-stirrer. If you down play this area of your birth chart, where Eris sits and waits and make out it is not as important as other areas of your life, then Lady Eris will watch as discord runs rife. Be aware not only of the house of Eris but in the exact opposite part of the chart where the apple has landed and where many things may be projected and left.
If you have Eris placed in the 7th house of partnerships and you dismiss or deny that you can at times be a trouble maker within your relationship or in business with partners, then the effects could be experienced in the 1st house of vitality, presentation and self. Lets say you get involved in an unfair partnership, or deny the other persons contributions or always get embroiled in love triangles and yet pretend nothing untoward is happening. It could be possible that your health could suffer due to the stress of keeping it all together or the image that you present to the world could be affected or your sense of independence could take a knock."

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@xiro thank youuu. Thats exactly what I wanted someones own personal experience with Eris.

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Originally posted by stellar_moon:
"Eris is left out of the party once more. This time though she has taken down mighty Pluto too, infact Eris will take everyone down with her if she feels she has been treated unfairly or disrespected. She exposes hypocrisy and takes and eye for an eye.
The activist, the radical feminist, the bohemian artist and joker are all in there. To me Eris has a surreal, psychedelic circus mania about her. Punk crossed with Sgt Pepper, a carnival warrior, spray-can militant, vampire slaying, queen of chaotic fate that is Eris."


Finding her in my 7H explains soooo much about me actually. "The whistle blower" feminine activism....I am not an easy person to be in a relationship with, and if a man even so much as TRIES to undermine my femininity, I want to destroy them. I consider myself bisexual and attracted to women too, I wonder if Eris plays a part in that. My partners Eris is conjunct mine with an orb of 3 degrees and his falls in my 7H too. Mine falls in his 12th. Also, he has Eris opposite Sun, where I have it squared. VERY interesting. Thank you so much for this thread.

This is interesting as well, the house opposite:

"Eris Is Your Opposite Number
In researching Eris’s behavior I have noticed that the zone or house opposite to the one Eris occupies in your birth chart is where her troubles can be the most obvious. It is where the apple of discord after being thrown actually lands. This area is often the 'fallout zone'. It is here where you may experience some stiff rivalry, somewhat underhand tactics and sometimes surprise intrusions. This place can also be the dumping ground for all the detritus of battle. Trouble and strife appears here when you ignore your own Eris and when you disown your inner troublemaker or pot-stirrer. If you down play this area of your birth chart, where Eris sits and waits and make out it is not as important as other areas of your life, then Lady Eris will watch as discord runs rife. Be aware not only of the house of Eris but in the exact opposite part of the chart where the apple has landed and where many things may be projected and left.
If you have Eris placed in the 7th house of partnerships and you dismiss or deny that you can at times be a trouble maker within your relationship or in business with partners, then the effects could be experienced in the 1st house of vitality, presentation and self. Lets say you get involved in an unfair partnership, or deny the other persons contributions or always get embroiled in love triangles and yet pretend nothing untoward is happening. It could be possible that your health could suffer due to the stress of keeping it all together or the image that you present to the world could be affected or your sense of independence could take a knock."


Thats interesting, I'm bisexual too. Actually I've very in tuned with my femininity in a very psychologically healthy way. I thought this was because of a dominant lilith in my chart but I suppose Eris is a very powerful feminine energy also.

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quote:
"Eris Is Your Opposite Number
In researching Eris’s behavior I have noticed that the zone or house opposite to the one Eris occupies in your birth chart is where her troubles can be the most obvious. It is where the apple of discord after being thrown actually lands. This area is often the 'fallout zone'. It is here where you may experience some stiff rivalry, somewhat underhand tactics and sometimes surprise intrusions. This place can also be the dumping ground for all the detritus of battle. Trouble and strife appears here when you ignore your own Eris and when you disown your inner troublemaker or pot-stirrer. If you down play this area of your birth chart, where Eris sits and waits and make out it is not as important as other areas of your life, then Lady Eris will watch as discord runs rife. Be aware not only of the house of Eris but in the exact opposite part of the chart where the apple has landed and where many things may be projected and left.
If you have Eris placed in the 7th house of partnerships and you dismiss or deny that you can at times be a trouble maker within your relationship or in business with partners, then the effects could be experienced in the 1st house of vitality, presentation and self. Lets say you get involved in an unfair partnership, or deny the other persons contributions or always get embroiled in love triangles and yet pretend nothing untoward is happening. It could be possible that your health could suffer due to the stress of keeping it all together or the image that you present to the world could be affected or your sense of independence could take a knock."


Fascinating! Thanks for this!

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posted January 05, 2013 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had never considered any of the asteroids or dwarf planets before but after reading through this post, I became curious so I looked into it. I have retrograde Eris in my 8th house. In fact, it is the ONLY occupant of my 8th house. I have no clue what this means...

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posted January 05, 2013 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geeky:
I had never considered any of the asteroids or dwarf planets before but after reading through this post, I became curious so I looked into it. I have retrograde Eris in my 8th house. In fact, it is the ONLY occupant of my 8th house. I have no clue what this means...


I just look at an asteroid/ planetary body if it touches something significant in the chart and very close like 2 degrees.

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posted January 05, 2013 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Eris conjunct Venus

I do not think its energy is "annoying"

havnt heard that before either. It isnt in me or my love nature to be that way. I've had some Eris in synastry before as well and I actually do not know what Eris energy repersents but I highly doubt it is annoyance.

From what I have read about Eris, it just might mean you are more playful or like to think outside the box, or atleast thats what I feel about it with myself.

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I have Eris conjunct Venus

I do not think its energy is "annoying"

havnt heard that before either. It isnt in me or my love nature to be that way. I've had some Eris in synastry before as well and I actually do not know what Eris energy repersents but I highly doubt it is annoyance.

From what I have read about Eris, it just might mean you are more playful or like to think outside the box, or atleast thats what I feel about it with myself.


Yeah I can't relate to that obnoxious or annoying energy either. I'm actually more low key then most Mars in Aries natives, the guy I knew with Venus conjunct Eris was also the same way.

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bump I never noticed how prominant Eris is in my chart.

First of all Eris is 16 degrees in Aries in my 11th house.

It exactly trines my IC while also trining my SN.
sextiles MC exactly while also sextiling my NN.

It squares my Neptune

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Originally posted by ail221:
Eris is not a asteroid its a minor planet. The qualities of Eris are essentially very similar to the psychological aspects of Black Moon Lilith and she is said to be the sister of Ares the god of war. She is the one that originally drops the golden apple from the heavens for the goddesses to fight over "whose the fairest of all?" and for Paris, the prince of troy left to decide who was the most beautiful. Actually Eris was originally name considered for Eris was "Xenia" as well as Persephone so this minor planet essentially represents many of the "darker mysterious women" of the underworld.
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Darkastrology.com " I also think Eris carries a lot of qualities of the Pluto/Uranus conjunction of the late 1960’s. The activist, the radical feminist, the bohemian artist and joker are all in there. To me Eris has a surreal, psychedelic circus mania about her. Punk crossed with Sgt Pepper, a carnival warrior, spray-can militant, vampire slaying, queen of chaotic fate that is Eris."

Hey I like pop punk, post punk, and folk punk music.

I also like to socialize with punks with Eris in my 11th house.

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I have eris exactly conjunct pallas athene. Any ideas on what this might mean?

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Neptune was discovered when we developed photography. Pluto, nuclear power.

Eris revealed herself during the advent of social media. I don't think this is an accident. I think she probably brings alot of that energy - the good (giving a voice to the unheard) and the bad (trolls).

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Haha I love your interpretations Ami!

I do love the show Family Matters! And I think Steve Urkel is hilarious.

I've been called a dork plenty of times in my life. My husband has even called me Dorkzilla.

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