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Topic: Karma and your Saturn Return
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stellar_moon
Knowflake Posts: 162
From: Canada
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 02, 2013 02:49 PM
  
I have been wondering for awhile about the Saturn return and Karma and how that works. For example, say during your Saturn return, you were generating some pretty nasty karma. Going out of your way to mess with people and hurt them. Will you have to deal with the energy you put out coming back to you at your next Saturn return? I say this because I have had a woman be so incredibly cruel to me during her Saturn return. Saturn crossed her IC around the same time she did what she did to me. The behavior only really manifested during her Return, and then since then nothing since the transit ended for her. Maybe because I busted her. It all happened over the internet (stalking and sending defamatory things about me to people I know and even people I didn't know) so while she tried remaining anonymous, I traced her IP and everything. IP: Logged |
anascorp
Knowflake Posts: 102
From: Jupiter
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 02, 2013 03:18 PM
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lalalinda
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From: nevada
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posted January 02, 2013 03:31 PM
Hello stellar_moon! Welcome to LL  -------------------
"For all those who believe, expect a miracle.”
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stellar_moon
Knowflake Posts: 162
From: Canada
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 02, 2013 06:10 PM
I wonder what would compel someone to act in such a way while saturn is making that transit. Maybe I should study some shadow aspects of saturn. t was very devastating to me too, traumatic even because for awhile I didn't know WHO was stalking me. Her Return ended right when mine started. And hi lalalinda, thanks for having me!  IP: Logged |
StacyLewis
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posted January 02, 2013 07:57 PM
I don't think it really works like that, though - that karma only comes back during the Saturn Return. It could happen sooner, or later, or who knows, even in the next life.And it may not even come back to them in the exact same way they gave it out, either. But no one can escape it. Even if you don't get to see it firsthand, in one way or another they'll be held accountable by God, the universe, whatever, for what they did to you. Having said that, sitting around wanting to see it happen and waiting for it...all it does is just make your headspace and your life all messed up, and it also makes your life all about *them*, which is probably something they'd want and get off on. Just take a deep breath and go forward with your life and make plans for it and live and be happy. Otherwise, you're really just hurting yourself and keeping yourself from enjoying your life. IP: Logged |
stellar_moon
Knowflake Posts: 162
From: Canada
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 02, 2013 08:48 PM
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Originally posted by StacyLewis:
Having said that, sitting around wanting to see it happen and waiting for it...all it does is just make your headspace and your life all messed up, and it also makes your life all about *them*, which is probably something they'd want and get off on. Just take a deep breath and go forward with your life and make plans for it and live and be happy. Otherwise, you're really just hurting yourself and keeping yourself from enjoying your life.
yes, all these things I do realize, better now than when I was in the middle of it. I have to have a connection to her in my life, she is my sons fathers partner. I'm sure there is a fated karmic aspect to it somewhere in our synastry. It's complicated. She never admitted or apologized and turned it around on me so now my ex and other people think I just made it up or I'm crazy. It was very confusing, and I can't have superficial friendships so I dropped some. Focusing now on just me and my life and what I really want to do with it (my own saturn return)
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anascorp
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From: Jupiter
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posted January 02, 2013 09:52 PM
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anascorp
Knowflake Posts: 102
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posted January 02, 2013 09:57 PM
Thank you for posting this stellar moon. I do believe we can be the better person release the karma. I feel Saturn was teaching me to stick up for my-Self. IP: Logged |
stellar_moon
Knowflake Posts: 162
From: Canada
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 03, 2013 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by anascorp:
Thank you for posting this stellar moon. I do believe we can be the better person release the karma. I feel Saturn was teaching me to stick up for my-Self.
I think thats what it was teaching me as well. Also that, people are not what they appear to be sometimes. I put a lot of trust in her, because she wanted to be my "friend". She used the friendship to get personal information out of me, to which she used against me. I will never be so easily douped again that is for sure! I think something must have happened to her, maybe in her childhood. At least that is what is going on for the woman I deal with since I saw pluto and saturn in her 4th house opposing 12th venus natally. Since there were 3 incidents that actually took place, I figure that maybe she goes through these cycles where the memories of it come back to her and she refuses to deal with it so she takes it out on other people. I do have compassion for her, just can't trust her. It's too bad because I never was out to get her, and we could have had a great friendship. *sorry for the twice post, I guess I can't delete stuff, was trying to edit.... IP: Logged |
stellar_moon
Knowflake Posts: 162
From: Canada
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 03, 2013 12:13 PM
I think thats what it was teaching me as well. Also that, people are not what they appear to be sometimes. I put a lot of trust in her, because she wanted to be my "friend". She used the friendship to get personal information out of me, to which she used against me. I will never be so easily douped again that is for sure! I think something must have happened to her, maybe in her childhood. At least that is what is going on for the woman I deal with since I saw pluto and saturn in her 4th house opposing 12th venus natally. Since there were 3 incidents that actually took place, I figure that maybe she goes through these cycles where the memories of it come back to her and she refuses to deal with it so she takes it out on other people. I do have compassion for her, just can't trust her. It's too bad because I never was out to get her, and we could have had a great friendship. What this chick wanted was for people to like her, and hate me, well the getting people against me didn't work but I stopped going out to social events that she will be at for the last year so the isolation was probably something else she wanted. As soon as I show up to the events and just be myself, she will get irritated again. I can see it in her eyes every time. I vowed that 2013 would be different, and I will put on my big girl panties and stop hiding out lol. IP: Logged |
anascorp
Knowflake Posts: 102
From: Jupiter
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 03, 2013 12:35 PM
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anascorp
Knowflake Posts: 102
From: Jupiter
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posted January 03, 2013 12:37 PM
I am going to check to see where her saturn is. IP: Logged |
stellar_moon
Knowflake Posts: 162
From: Canada
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 04, 2013 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by anascorp:
I completely agree! I am starting to wonder if this was the same girl lol! Me and her looked alike our birthdays were very close. She had a tragic child hood also. I think you are correct about how you said your friend dealt with memories. It has taken me a year to come back to the world. As you said I will never again be so easily fooled. ♥ I hope that everyone knows the truth of what she did.
We share a lot of similar planets natally and aspects. I can't say we were ever friends, my ex left me for her and my ex and I have a kid together. The whole thing is complicated, when it never needed to be. Thats what I mean about a fated karmic connection because I can't escape her, shes in my life and even takes care of my son! I can't move with my son a million miles away, nor do i want to leave my son. I HAVE to deal with it.
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anascorp
Knowflake Posts: 102
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posted January 04, 2013 03:45 PM
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anascorp
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posted January 04, 2013 03:56 PM
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stellar_moon
Knowflake Posts: 162
From: Canada
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 04, 2013 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by anascorp:
How do you manage to keep calm, knowing all this? The girl who did this to me lived with my x and his family before we had our son. They never dated, that I know of.
Mars in Scorpio  AND I don't want to lose custody of my son because of an emotional reaction that might lead to face smashing because I think about that alot(smashing her face when I see her in person hee hee). She has sun conjunct mars in gemini and some harsh oppositions to uranus. Impulsive. Reckless. Not me. I am very calculated. I hacked the password for the fake email account she was using. Honestly, the security question was "mothers birthplace" and since was pretty sure i knew that, it was an easy guess. I changed the passwords on her and took printscreens of everything in it. She even made a fake plenty of fish profile posing as a guy to get me to talk to her.
Of course she panicked and got the account back, but she came into my work about a month ago not expecting me to be there, she looked a bit intimated. I didn't stop looking her in the eye the entire time I rang her through. Its a kind of look that says "Im going to ruin you" all the while smiling and being polite with my words. IP: Logged |
Emsie
Knowflake Posts: 278
From: Budapest
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted January 04, 2013 05:35 PM
In the last few years when Saturn was in my 11th house I also had a similar experience. I was friends with a girl for 16 years and at the end she just wasn't the same humble girl anymore.And I had to realize that she just used me, because I've always been more popular than her, she's always been the lost girl, and somehow she just managed to stick that role on me. One day I realized that I was just in her shadow, and I always had this certain feeling that she thought she was way better than me in any ways... So my self confidence was totally on the floor... And she just knew she could do everything because I've always been so humble and kind to everyone, then she used this to her advantage! What a beautiful thing to do, ain't?! Since then I discovered that she's just been a co-dependent Pisces who would have been so lost without me, without her "shadow pal" Finally, in Nov 2011 we had a huge battle on a completely different subject, but I called it quits with her forever! She changed to this awful wh*re (literally, too...), she told me so many nasty things I didn't deserve, and that way how she told these ugly things! I could take no more of that sh*t, so I decided to really cut her off from my life. For a few times I popped into her on the street and she acted completely the way she really is - superficially, like nothing had happened before, even that ugly fake smile. She even recommended me to call her and let's go for a coffee... Yes, after all the sh*t she did I should've called her! Good joke! On our fight's 1st anniversary in November (lol) I noticed she blocked me on FB (like I did before, but I unblocked her - and didn't befriend her!) After all I don't know who said that she won't even care about me and the fight, but truth is I've always known her better than she knows herself, and I knew she will mull over everything for ages!!! She even told me that I was sooo predictable, but indeed she never even knew me to say that I was 'predictable'! How funny, I still like this one! And how Karma came and changed everything then? I heard she applied for student's loan before, and now she has to work very hard especially because she didn't get a place this year at her student's dorm, so she had to freeze her semester (or whole year - I don't know) and the extra work is also for the rented flat she lives in! I only wish her good luck for the coming years, and I really hope the planets will do something to break this superficial mask she wears inside and outside of her! For me, things gotten so much better, I found myself, and I am totally on the way of transformation these days! Saturn in my 12th house - letting go, healing, etc. IP: Logged |
sharpei
Knowflake Posts: 289
From: london
Registered: Jan 2013
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posted January 31, 2013 12:26 PM
this is an interesting thread- i think when saturn was in libra i cleared up alot of past karma so in a way now my life is easier now that i am going through saturn return in scorpio 6th houseIP: Logged |
charlie
Knowflake Posts: 717
From: los angeles, ca, USA
Registered: Jun 2012
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posted January 31, 2013 02:00 PM
How about this! I had my Saturn return (Leo)a few seconds before Pluto hit Capricorn and thus planted itself right on my Moon and opposite my Sun, Venus. And Saturn.......It was 2008 and all hell broke loose. It all culminated last year, 2012 and I HOPE (!!) life will be easier now.IP: Logged |
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