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sand
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posted January 10, 2013 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What signs, aspects?

"You casually mention that now you’ve got your Ph.D. in Social Sciences and once you can face people again, you think it might be quite nice to have a career. Before you know it, there’s a party plan rep making nuisance calls. (Taurus is a tad old-fashioned that way. Career girls aren’t his cup of tea unless they actually make it for a living.)"

^from the ******* thread.

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Odette
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posted January 10, 2013 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't known any guys in my generation who would be put off by a girl who has a career.

I think initially most guys - but especially earth signs, including Taurus - would like the financial aspect.. They'd like that she is making money...
I think this would be seen as a positive thing by most men and as attractive.

Everyone wants more money at the end of the day.
I have a Taurus friend who broke up with his gf of 10 yrs recently. Even though they broke up and he is no longer romantically interested - he still talks about her with SO much respect and admiration purely because of the amount of money she makes. He seems completely fascinated by this.

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posted January 10, 2013 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have venus in Gemini.
I love career women.
I don't have to do all the work haha
Maybe she can by me something too and pay for dinner one night.
I don't like close and clingy relationships. I would hate for someone to be dependent on me.... That would be the worst.
Are people still attracted to women like that?
Guy who are stuck in the middle ages aren't attractive either.

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posted January 10, 2013 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Odette completely~ I can't see a man being turned off by he prospect of having an equal contributor to financial stability, and having an intellectual equal on board at that... but, I like to explore the possibilities.... so here's my thought... either way...

if such a person exists... I'd look at these aspects with some suspicion -
Cancer moon opp mars in Capricorn
Cancer MC Capricorn IC
Saturn sq or opp MC
Moon or Venus sq Saturn
Uranus sq/opp Saturn or Moon maybe?
Sagittarius heavy placements possibly~

Think it has to do with hard aspects between Saturn/Moon and Venus/Uranus placements most likely... hmmmmn
additionally, Jupiter dominance, and aspects between Uranus and Saturn there...

with Moon - Saturn - you are self-reliant, probably disinterested in/find it unnecessary to have someone else to rely on, probably even insulted by the thought of being dependent on another, or likewise having them be dependent on you.

With Jupiter - Venus - the lucky don't need the security, and also tend to be disinterested in having relationships become strictly involved with gaining capital or prestige, or such... stripped down to a game of economical assets...

With Venus - Uranus - they may view the partnership as restrictive, or dislike the feel of obligation that comes along with this sort of arrangement at times......

Saturn/Mars - Moon/Venus again - can be put off by the competitive nature that would take over their lives, and may have moral issues with having a partners that are on different levels than themselves... (whether they truly are or not...)

Likewise, Neptune - Venus aspects good or bad - either way... I can see them simply being disinterested in love being associated with mundane intellectual achievements and income potentials...

.... that's just me, throwing ideas around, seeing what sticks~

I'm not a man, but I have some of these... so, it doesn't seem so far-fetched to equate one aspect to the other with each choice... personally speaking... sex has nothing to do with it...
and, besides... that article was a mostly a joke, for sure... lol


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posted January 11, 2013 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^
Religious believes can hinder ones desire for financially independent women.

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posted January 11, 2013 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Odette:
I haven't known any guys in my generation who would be put off by a girl who has a career.

I think initially most guys - but especially earth signs, including Taurus - would like the financial aspect.. They'd like that she is making money...
I think this would be seen as a positive thing by most men and as attractive.

Everyone wants more money at the end of the day.
I have a Taurus friend who broke up with his gf of 10 yrs recently. Even though they broke up and he is no longer romantically interested - he still talks about her with SO much respect and admiration purely because of the amount of money she makes. He seems completely fascinated by this.


I suppose it doesn't matter much to me in a sense..

I like family money just because I dreaded having trashy in laws for the longest!

I can go either way I guess. My dad who is super sag and can be a bit of a chauvinist (men don't cut hair blah blah lol) also believes a woman should not earn more than a man.

Idk about that I've just always strived to make the most with my skills and opportunities ever since. I haven't met many who made more than me. Though a cap moon-venus ex might. We crash though when we are together. Separately we do fine. Odd synastry..

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posted January 11, 2013 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StacyLewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SaturnineMoth:
I agree with Odette completely~ I can't see a man being turned off by he prospect of having an equal contributor to financial stability, and having an intellectual equal on board at that...


Income and intelligence aren't the same thing. A person can be brilliant and broke; or dumb as a box of rocks, and make a ton of money. Income depends on what field you go into, and what the general pay rate for that particular field, is.

As far as the actual topic...I've never seen a guy who *doesn't* like a 'career woman'; if anything every guy I've encountered has always been hyper-preoccupied with a female's bank balance and to some extent, that took precedence over everything else. I've had guys reject me and one of the primary reasons was because they didn't feel I was at a certain level financially and career-wise that they found 'acceptable'.

To some extent I think this has less to do with sign-placement or even astrology in general, and more to do with modern society's current preoccupation with the material - things, in general, appearances, and status. What do you own, how much do you make...does anyone know who you are. Everybody's trying to be 'upwardly mobile', and get into another social class and be able to afford their own private jet and impress and wow the next guy.

Of course, the ironic (and funny) thing is that the extremely, extremely wealthy (ie the people at the financial level that most other people are trying to get to)...think that's disgusting and want nothing to do with people like that.

And when I say extremely wealthy, I'm not talking about show-business people, who are poor in comparison to these guys. I'm talking about the people that are so rich that you never see them on the Forbes list because...they own the lending company the Forbes company owes MONEY to. The people who own everything.

They don't want to be splashed all over a 'wealthiest people list'. They find that kind of thing vulgar - they don't talk about money, they usually don't even think about money, and view people who are constantly trying to make more money and climb social ladders, with disdain. They abhor ostentation and flashiness and bragging. They give less than two 5h1ts about what someone does for a living, or how much they made last year.

They're more interested in a person's bloodline, and even that doesn't matter to them if you weren't born into their immediate circle. In other words, even if your great-granny was of Romanov descent, it means nothing to them if you didn't grow up already in that social circle, hanging out with them.

So in short, everybody's busting their ass to try and get invited to parties where no one would have them, anyway.

And even if that's not your goal and you just want to be able to buy a lot of expensive stuff...even that gets old after awhile. Case in point - all the millionaire celebrities out there who stuff themselves full of drugs because they're unhappy and have emotional, mental, psychological issues. Stuff is just...stuff. It's not going to fulfill you where it counts the most.

My whole thing is, "As long as I can provide for myself and any children I might have at a level where we can live someplace safe and clean, and never have to worry about eating, or keeping utilities on, or being able to pay for health services...". I just want to be middle class, which for me means being able to meet my basic needs and then have a little left over for fun and retirement and an emergency cushion/savings.

By 'fun', I mean an X-Box, or a piano, or a 70 gallon aquarium.

I just wanna be happy. I think that if more people reassessed their idea of what success is and what they need to have to be fulfilled...I think we'd see a lot more happy people in this world.

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posted January 11, 2013 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe.. Beauty is a stronger factor for me.. Leo moon and all.. I read they might prefer trophy wives. Any truth to this? / shrug

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posted January 11, 2013 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyFavouriteName     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
im put off by any woman who has too much energy in one realm of the cardinal signs, but especially too career focused, i support a woman who has her own career, but if she becomes consumed by success and moving up and up, and lives for it (can't get content, or prioritise the 'us' part of the relationship, or the family (kids), then im not right for them.

too much cancer - too clingy/needy/emotional
too much capricorn/saturn - too focused on career, status, ambitions, lack of relationship.
too much aries - too aggressive, not enough finesse.
too much libra - too indecisive, not enough passion and not enough mutual chase.


i have venus in libra and moon in aries, i think these two planets alone are enough reason why too much career type doesn't fit with me - i want companionship with plenty of time and sharing company. i need attention and plenty activity.

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posted January 11, 2013 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And even if that's not your goal and you just want to be able to buy a lot of expensive stuff...even that gets old after awhile.

I wanna buy lotsa stuff for most of my life, then one day settle down and start catering to my future kids/nephews and nieces. Personally, I don't mind a career woman. It'd be fine to have more money flowing in and I don't mind taking a back seat, so long as I'm in the front seat in the back seat.

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posted January 11, 2013 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think we may be having a conversation across each other (that is, across cultures).

The exchange may be very different if we were all very conservative Mormons (...who all...happened to believe in astrology...).

Another question might be, "What aspects might indicate a strict adherence to [to the native] conventional social roles?"

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posted January 11, 2013 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm the reverse.

I want only successful women, and in fact I expect it. And then, I want her to have the flexibility to give up the career, as with my wife, for very good reasons.

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posted January 11, 2013 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyFavouriteName     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm the reverse.

I want only successful women, and in fact I expect it. And then, I want her to have the flexibility to give up the career, as with my wife, for very good reasons.


is it hard to find? were you lucky to find your wife??

i wouldn't expect my woman to give up her career, but i'd certainly expect her to put it on the line to have fulfilling relationships in the family.

families too easily can neglect relationships between each other under a roof of status-prestige-money-security orientated-american dream chasing parents.

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posted January 11, 2013 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MyFavouriteName:
is it hard to find? were you lucky to find your wife??

i wouldn't expect my woman to give up her career, but i'd certainly expect her to put it on the line to have fulfilling relationships in the family.

families too easily can neglect relationships between each other under a roof of status-prestige-money-security orientated-american dream chasing parents.


Of course I was lucky to marry my wife. Still am.

I am successful enough that my wife never had to work after marriage, if she didn't want to.

We have a chronically ill child and therefore, the decision to give up her career was made naturally because we had no choice. She still gets paid as a consultant whenever she chooses to undertake an assignment.

Fortunately, my sole income has been more than enough to sustain the family without her ever working after marriage.

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posted January 11, 2013 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Insecure men are turned off by career women. Too much fixed energy and aspects involving harsh aspects to "feminine" planets. If were using the definition of a career woman as a woman with a higher education who either does or desires to have their own world aside from /including a life with children and spouse where she'll take on purely a maternal role. In-laws can be "trashy" regardless of "wealth", money doesn't equate manners and hospitality.

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posted January 11, 2013 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^so defensive!

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posted January 11, 2013 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it more has to do with the generation and not the whole male sex in general.

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posted January 11, 2013 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"To some extent I think this has less to do with sign-placement or even astrology in general, and more to do with modern society's current preoccupation with the material - things, in general, appearances, and status. What do you own, how much do you make...does anyone know who you are. Everybody's trying to be 'upwardly mobile', and get into another social class and be able to afford their own private jet and impress and wow the next guy." -- StacyLewis has it right.

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posted January 11, 2013 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
^so defensive!

No, seen it first hand. One sag sun/Pisces moon associate a med student specifically said he could never marry a woman who was head of surgery or in any station above him not because he would feel their children would be neglected if they both had full time careers or a sick child. Rather because he wouldn't feel right about a woman making more money than him. This is the same one that wants plastic surgery to erase his "ethnic nose".

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posted January 11, 2013 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ail221:
No, seen it first hand. One sag sun/Pisces moon associate a med student specifically said he could never marry a woman who was head of surgery or in any station above him not because he would feel their children would be neglected if they both had full time careers or a sick child. Rather because he wouldn't feel right about a woman making more money than him. This is the same one that wants plastic surgery to erase his "ethnic nose".

True he has a stupid mindset (is he Indian? I read on the internet they say stuff like that?) But just because a man wouldn't want a career woman doesn't mean he is insecure. thats just the dudes upbringing

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posted January 11, 2013 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^don't u have finals or a prom or something?

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posted January 11, 2013 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^don't u have finals or a prom or something?

Finals was 2 weeks ago and prom is in 2 years. Are you interested?

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posted January 11, 2013 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maybe a man with a mars water sign? they can be pretty lazy guys (pisces especially) and might be turned off by a more ambitious/career-oriented woman

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posted January 11, 2013 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
Finals was 2 weeks ago and prom is in 2 years. Are you interested?

No but have fun!

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posted January 11, 2013 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Males with moon in Pisces.

Males with moon in Cancer.

Males with moon conjunct Neptune.

If there is no adverse aspects to these, those would be the astrological data for such men.

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