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Topic: possible manifestation of tinyness, besides genetics?
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stellar_moon Knowflake Posts: 116 From: Canada Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 13, 2013 11:48 AM
I know, I know, Pluto is over-rated and demoted, which brings up the question for me, is it a dwarf planet? I have Pluto in the 1st (conj asc), and my friend asked me yesterday "Do you even realize how short you are?" and I said "No. In my mind I am huge, bigger than you even"So of course that question made me think of astrology. I thought that maybe Pluto in the 1st could be why I am so petite, but other tall people probably share this too, like my sons father,but my Pluto is afflicted, where as his is not. IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 9367 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted January 13, 2013 11:53 AM
i have pluto in 1st, i'm average. my mom is short for my family's genetics though at 5'2. idk where it comes from but she is a cancer rising. IP: Logged |
stellar_moon Knowflake Posts: 116 From: Canada Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 13, 2013 12:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by sand: i have pluto in 1st, i'm average. my mom is short for my family's genetics though at 5'2. idk where it comes from but she is a cancer rising.
yea I think astrology probably doesn't have much to do with body height as does genes. My son's father is 6ft plus and he has the same placement as me, pluto in 1st conj asc IP: Logged |
ail221 Knowflake Posts: 2770 From: Mary Margaret Blanchard's home Registered: Feb 2012
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posted January 13, 2013 01:17 PM
Mercury influenceIP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 9367 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted January 13, 2013 01:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by stellar_moon: yea I think astrology probably doesn't have much to do with body height as does genes. My son's father is 6ft plus and he has the same placement as me, pluto in 1st conj asc
idk i'm very scorp rising. the genes of my family are very scorp rising too in the sense that my grandfather was one. much more textbook than me since he had the bulging eyes. i have piercing ones but i got part of them from the other side of the family. IP: Logged |
stellar_moon Knowflake Posts: 116 From: Canada Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 13, 2013 02:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by ail221: Mercury influence
I have pluto square mercury. IP: Logged |
stellar_moon Knowflake Posts: 116 From: Canada Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 13, 2013 02:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by sand: idk i'm very scorp rising. the genes of my family are very scorp rising too in the sense that my grandfather was one. much more textbook than me since he had the bulging eyes. i have piercing ones but i got part of them from the other side of the family.
I have piercing eyes too. at least, it's what people comment on the most..besides my height. I haven't done astro charts on my grandparents yet. I will look into that
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ail221 Knowflake Posts: 2770 From: Mary Margaret Blanchard's home Registered: Feb 2012
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posted January 13, 2013 02:25 PM
^ You have mercury sextile your asc 1 degree. There's the pixie trait.IP: Logged |
stellar_moon Knowflake Posts: 116 From: Canada Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 13, 2013 02:37 PM
^Innnnteresting YES. I've been called a pixie many times! And even though I'm pushing 30, I don't look older than 20. thanks for that IP: Logged |
inaworldofsong Knowflake Posts: 119 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 13, 2013 04:30 PM
I don't have 1H Pluto or Mercury or anything, but I am heavily Pluto dominant. And Pluto is conjunct Mercury in the 7H.IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 288 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 13, 2013 04:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by ail221: Mercury influence
most of my personal planets and asc is in gemini. I'm 6'3. Mercurians are long and slender. I've never met a shrimpy Gemini or virgo. Most of them are average or above average. IP: Logged |
SaturnineMoth Knowflake Posts: 1412 From: The Mary Celeste Registered: Aug 2012
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posted January 13, 2013 04:40 PM
My first house is barren, but it is Virgo, and my ruler/dominant planet is Mercury which trines my Ascendant node. I'm 4'11" (~1.5m or 150cm) 29 today and still every bit the appearance of a 15 year old they say. very Mercurial, and minuscule. previously nicknamed Thumbelina, and Nymphette.... (Munchkin, midget, shortie, shortsh^t, and littlefoot...) ~__~ petite? yes! hahaha waifishness... ah the Virgo/Mercury influence~ definitely blaming Mercury for this one. xD IP: Logged |
Debby4 Knowflake Posts: 434 From: TX,USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted January 13, 2013 04:42 PM
Dang... I feel short. Even though people don't say i am. Mainly because they are shorter than me. I'm 5' 3". Pluto in first house conj. ASC. and Moon. I would think more of a Cancer or Pisces would make you short. And yes Mercury is tall and slender. Maybe even Venus is making you short? IP: Logged |
Debby4 Knowflake Posts: 434 From: TX,USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted January 13, 2013 04:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by SaturnineMoth: My first house is barren, but it is Virgo, and my ruler/dominant planet is Mercury which trines my Ascendant node. I'm 4'11" (~1.5m or 150cm) 29 today and still every bit the appearance of a 15 year old they say. very Mercurial, and minuscule. previously nicknamed Thumbelina, and Nymphette.... (Munchkin, midget, shortie, shortsh^t, and littlefoot...) ~__~ petite? yes! hahaha waifishness... ah the Virgo/Mercury influence~ definitely blaming Mercury for this one. xD
:O Where is your mercury? and daaaaannng! You're short! xD IP: Logged |
Hera Moderator Posts: 5010 From: the OR Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 13, 2013 04:50 PM
Saturn/Asc or Saturn/Sun *sometimes* shorten height. Also noticed sometimes if there's too much fixed energy in the chart, the person is short (not necessarily tiny). Lots of mutability usually makes for tall and slim, but can be short and slim too. But I have yet to see a short person with all big 3 mutable. ^Personal observations mostly, need to be taken with a grain of salt. IP: Logged |
ail221 Knowflake Posts: 2770 From: Mary Margaret Blanchard's home Registered: Feb 2012
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posted January 13, 2013 04:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: most of my personal planets and asc is in gemini. I'm 6'3. Mercurians are long and slender. I've never met a shrimpy Gemini or virgo. Most of them are average or above average.
Isn't Uranus your second dominate planet? Uranus adds height.
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stellar_moon Knowflake Posts: 116 From: Canada Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 13, 2013 04:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by Debby4: Dang... I feel short. Even though people don't say i am. Mainly because they are shorter than me. I'm 5' 3". Pluto in first house conj. ASC. and Moon. I would think more of a Cancer or Pisces would make you short. And yes Mercury is tall and slender. Maybe even Venus is making you short?
I have a Sun cancer, and Venus Cancer...I am 5'1 but also slender...and I don't have big boobs either. Button nose. Small and even a bit pointy ears. Small hands. Both Sun and Venus would square my asc and pluto Libra. IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 8969 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 13, 2013 05:01 PM
Pisces can be pretty short.Shortest person (petite really since she is tiny) in my family has Gem ASC with Gem Jup in the 1st, but she gets good deals cos she can shop in girls' sections. IP: Logged |
ail221 Knowflake Posts: 2770 From: Mary Margaret Blanchard's home Registered: Feb 2012
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posted January 13, 2013 05:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Hera: Saturn/Asc or Saturn/Sun *sometimes* shorten height. Also noticed sometimes if there's too much fixed energy in the chart, the person is short (not necessarily tiny). Lots of mutability usually makes for tall and slim, but can be short and slim too. But I have yet to see a short person with all big 3 mutable. ^Personal observations mostly, need to be taken with a grain of salt.
Just a lindaland example aquaguy and redscorp both triple fixed and tall.
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stellar_moon Knowflake Posts: 116 From: Canada Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 13, 2013 05:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: but she gets good deals cos she can shop in girls' sections.
me too! I shop online now though, more options for xtra small.
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StacyLewis Knowflake Posts: 407 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted January 13, 2013 05:31 PM
I'm with whoever said it's not Mercury or Gemini doing it, because typically those are associated with being long, and tall.My best bet at this point, without having seen an entire chart, is Pluto in the first, could probably have somewhat the same effect physically as having a Scorpio Ascendant. Having said that, again, all planetary energies symbolize more than one thing and can manifest a ton of different ways, which is probably why some people with Pluto angular, aren't short. The last time I had an official, proper height measurement (by this, I mean in a doctor's office), was probably in my mid to late 20s, and the nurse said I was 4'11' and a quarter inches, exact. I have a lot of fixed energy in my chart too, so that right there disproves any generalization that fixed emphasis = tall. I'm an Aquarius Ascendant too, which everyone insists means I should be six feet tall. Not only that, I have Uranus conjunct my midheaven and trining my Ascendant, and my South Node is in Aquarius. I have a planet in the 11th house aspecting both luminaries. I totally blow a hole in the theory that all Aquarian/Uranian people, are giants physically. Also, you'd be surprised at what other placements/aspects can impact height. I read in the Astrologer's Handbook that South Node conjunct Ascendant can make you SHORT. I have that aspect. IP: Logged |
bridgetostars23 Knowflake Posts: 189 From: virginia, usa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 13, 2013 08:14 PM
So, conversely, being a 5-11 female should show up in my chart in what fashion, if any?IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 4701 From: The Sun Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 13, 2013 08:21 PM
quote: Kerosene: most of my personal planets and asc is in gemini. I'm 6'3.
My Mom has Sun, Moon, AC, and Jupiter in Virgo (Sun/Jupiter conjunct no less) and she's 5'2. I find Mercurial females to be tiny while the males are usually much larger. Unless you're a giant among la femmes! Then that'd be a first. IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 4701 From: The Sun Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 13, 2013 08:31 PM
IIII fiiiind Scorpio and Pluto in females make for short and curvaceous-ness. That's what I notice! Apparently Mars is supposed to be body type, but I forget where I read that.IP: Logged |
SaturnineMoth Knowflake Posts: 1412 From: The Mary Celeste Registered: Aug 2012
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posted January 13, 2013 09:04 PM
@ Debby~ my Merc is in Capricorn ^^ 1st decan (Cap/Saturn) - 4h (Sag ruled; naturally Cancer ruled house) it is conjunct Polis (the foal star), Pan, Jubilatrix, Hippocrene, Neptune/Jupiter (stellium), and Ornamenta (tiny thing)!Anyway... maybe it's a Moon-Mercury thing...?And, not just a Mercury-alone phenomenon??? My Mercury aspects my Mars/Pluto by sxt and semisq's my Saturn all those in Scorpio... but my Saturn is opposite Moon... I have Merc bQ Moon too... That's why I'm thinking maybe it's Moon + Mercury related... just a thought~ k! =x All I know is the women in my family are all significantly shorter than average... but I am, by far... the shortest. *sulk* All the men are taller - but for the record they are by vast majority Uranian/Aquarian - Arian/Mars heavy --- all my male relatives are over 6'... the tallest member of our family (ever) was over 6'4" but he died when he was /only 15/ (intestinal Cancer back in the 1930's, he was born April 19th year unknown fwiw).... So yeah - I'm just guessing, maybe Uranian-Martian energy makes for a taller individual - But, perhaps Mercurial-Lunar energy makes someone petite???? What does everyone think? Do we have any Martian-Uranian dominant people here or(other) Mercurial-Lunarian??? Could it have something to do with feminine/masculine energies??? just curious~ definitely taken with a grain of salt!!!~ I'm just observing things from my bubble, please don't take any thing here personally, or as an offense~ <333 I see the genetic reasoning as being more plausible in this matter to be perfectly honest... but, it's nice to see if there is a possibility of an astro-connection at least, right!??! The torso is ruled by which sign??? ~ curiosity/laziness!! ^^ sorry~ is there one sign or house associated with the torso (as a whole?).... legs would be Capricorn/Saturn... but, you can have long legs and a short torso, or short legs and a long torso... so it's sorta important to understand both, I think... ^^ (if anyone answers, much obliged! <3 ty) IP: Logged |