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Jessica2407
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posted January 15, 2013 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WTH???

''Mars in the 8th house indicates that the native might be a prostitute and if such Mars is in conjunction with a malefic, the native will have no husband or she will become a widow or reject her husband and accept a paramour. If Mars in the 8th house in the horoscope of a male is likely to cause his own death. Mars in the 8th in the natal chart of a female will cause her husband's death.''
http://www.astrologyforu.com/marriage/8th-house-bride-horoscope.htm

All the vedic astrology sites give SOOOOO fatalistic descriptions of this placement! i'm amazed am still alive!I have Mars in the 8th H Virgo. That part ''''Mars in the 8th house indicates that the native might be a prostitute ...'' threw me off!!!

However, astrotheme says :

''Mars in the 8th House

This atypical configuration in your natal chart is one of the most complex to describe because of the very nature of the 8th house, the house of transformation, crises leading to personal reconstruction, but also the house of sexuality, hidden knowledge, investment and inheritance.

In addition, the 8th house always deepens emotions and quickly brings passion into the previously mentioned areas. In this house, the quality of Mars' expression depends on the rest of the natal chart.

In order not to make mistakes, it is safer to talk about a possible range of fields of predilection: your energy can be expressed efficiently in areas dealing with financial investment, death, possessions and sexuality.

This configuration may also simply increase the intensity of emotions connected with these hidden topics and, depending on the rest of your natal chart, it may or may not translate into life assets. More than with any other placement, you can be born again from your ashes, like the phoenix. After having undergone a few major ordeals, it is likely that you will have the strength and courage to do so.''
http://www.astrotheme.com/files/mars_what_makes_you_tick.php

Why is it an ATYPICAL configuration???


This is an interesting article on the 8th House. http://www.astrologyindepth.com/The_8th_house

https://livevisionz.com/LOVE_AND_THE_8TH_HOUSE.html

Thoughts/comments/insights are welcome

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VenusDiSirius
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posted January 15, 2013 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The first description sounds vedic,just skip it.

It's as atypical position as any other

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posted January 15, 2013 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maelstrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Mars in the 8th house indicates that the native might be a prostitute"

Dammit, I cant keep anything a secret these days.....

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Maelstrom
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posted January 15, 2013 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maelstrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Kerosene
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Vedic astrology is that christian girl in high school who judges you. Ha you have mars in the 8th house and you like sex? YOU MALEFIC HARLET !

I have to admit I love reading them too. They tend to destroy your confidence. Sorry moon in the eight housers, YOU'RE UGGGGLYYYYY

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posted January 15, 2013 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anno_lucis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

cool article. it definitely lends itself to an interest in the occult...dunno if astrology would count as an 8h matter too

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Jessica2407
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posted January 15, 2013 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL at Maelstrom


What does having Mars in the 8th H signify? The 8th house is ruled by Scorpio and therefore the planet Mars, so shouldn't it be a good placement for Mars to be in?

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posted January 15, 2013 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Maelstrom:
"Mars in the 8th house indicates that the native might be a prostitute"

Dammit, I cant keep anything a secret these days.....


How much? JK!

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Jessica2407
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posted January 15, 2013 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
''They tend to destroy your confidence''


True! and makes you feel doomed,like you are a hopeless case! LOL

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posted January 15, 2013 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StacyLewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is why I've never really taken to Vedic astrology. It's incredibly, incredibly negative to the point of being nonsensical.

But if people are just adamant about using it - you're not even supposed to use a standard natal chart in Vedic; you're supposed to change to the Whole Sign System and the Hindu/Lahiri zodiac.

So reading an interpretation for a Mars in the eighth house in western...is probably inaccurate, because in the Vedic system it's probably not even in that house anymore.

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You need to go back to MY ASTRO of Astro.com and create a chart by using the following options:



1. Type of chart - Natal Chart Wheel



2. Chart Drawing Style - Web Default Style



3. House System - Whole Signs



4. Zodiac - Hindu Lahiri



5:Select - Draw no aspect lines.



6. Select - Uranus - Pluto Off/On



7.Select - Always use True Node.

http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?num=1342765105/0#0




So this in Western :


Becomes this in Vedic :

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posted January 15, 2013 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, not loving those descriptions:s. My boyfriend has Mars in the 8th house in Scorpio...

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Jessica2407
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posted January 16, 2013 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried it Stacy. The whole natal chart changes!

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posted January 16, 2013 04:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted January 16, 2013 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rahu in the 8th house is said to be a Vishakanaya or one who violates the tradition of her family and becomes a widow. If the week moon is also in the 8th house with Rahu, widowhood is almost certain. If this combination of Rahu, Chandra has the aspect of Kuja, the native may become a widow in her 18th or 36th year. Ketu in the eighth house is likely to make the native a widow in life, probably during the Dasa of Ketu is not associated or aspected by a strong malefic.

^ what is the nn again, rahu or ketu?

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posted January 16, 2013 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
Vedic astrology is that christian girl in high school who judges you. Ha you have mars in the 8th house and you like sex? YOU MALEFIC HARLET !

I have to admit I love reading them too. They tend to destroy your confidence. Sorry moon in the eight housers, YOU'RE UGGGGLYYYYY



hahahahaha LMAO

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posted January 16, 2013 06:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sand:
Rahu in the 8th house is said to be a Vishakanaya or one who violates the tradition of her family and becomes a widow. If the week moon is also in the 8th house with Rahu, widowhood is almost certain. If this combination of Rahu, Chandra has the aspect of Kuja, the native may become a widow in her 18th or 36th year. Ketu in the eighth house is likely to make the native a widow in life, probably during the Dasa of Ketu is not associated or aspected by a strong malefic.

^ what is the nn again, rahu or ketu?


The ascending node is Rahu, descending Ketu.

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posted January 16, 2013 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vedic Astrology was developed at a time when a an Elite Priestly Class was soaked in the Caste System. The harsh analysis was created to keep lower castes and ignorant masses subjugated by fear. The Priests would dominate audience with the King, and they would use accurate astrology only for the Royal Family and themselves.
Can you imagine a Vedic Priest making the Queen's Chart and telling her that she has Mars in 8th and is thus a harlot? He sure wont if he values his Elite Head

There are many useful insights in Vedic Astrology for discerning researchers.
House Lords and Combinational Planets for one. The best is of-course the uncannily accurate Vimshottari Dasha System, made using Sidereal Moon position. I avoid Sidereal Chart Analysis but feel very sorry for the loss of those missing out on the Dasha System for understanding Transits. It is as colossal a loss as the loss of neglecting Uranus, Neptune and Pluto is to the Vedic Astrologer Community.

Barbara Pijan Lama has written some of the best articles on Vedic Astrology. There is amazing knowledge available to one who uses Vedic House Lord Analysis on the Western Tropical Chart with Equal House System.


There are many types of shoes with the same size. You can walk to the same destination with any of these shoes as long as they fit.


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posted January 16, 2013 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
Vedic Astrology was developed at a time when a an Elite Priestly Class was soaked in the Caste System. The harsh analysis was created to keep lower castes and ignorant masses subjugated by fear. The Priests would dominate audience with the King, and they would use accurate astrology only for the Royal Family and themselves.
Can you imagine a Vedic Priest making the Queen's Chart and telling her that she has Mars in 8th and is thus a harlot? He sure wont if he values his Elite Head

There are many useful insights in Vedic Astrology for discerning researchers.
House Lords and Combinational Planets for one. The best is of-course the uncannily accurate Vimshottari Dasha System, made using Sidereal Moon position. I avoid Sidereal Chart Analysis but feel very sorry for the loss of those missing out on the Dasha System for understanding Transits. It is as colossal a loss as the loss of neglecting Uranus, Neptune and Pluto is to the Vedic Astrologer Community.

Barbara Pijan Lama has written some of the best articles on Vedic Astrology. There is amazing knowledge available to one who uses Vedic House Lord Analysis on the Western Tropical Chart with Equal House System.


There are many types of shoes with the same size. You can walk to the same destination with any of these shoes as long as they fit.


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posted January 16, 2013 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eeagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here is another vedic description for mars in eighth house

"These people having Mars in 8th house possess invincible strength and are quiet firm in their path once they have decided for which they are believed to achieve what they want to."for the rest http://www.indianastrologyhoroscope.com/Mars_8th_house.html

i got this placement and im aries .

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posted January 16, 2013 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These people having mangal in eighth house should offer sweets and bread prepared on tandoor to dogs..

I don't really know what that means? tandoor?

However I do have mars 8th and I left some boiled eggs and bananas for the wild foxes outside since its cubbing time and bloody freezing here

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posted January 16, 2013 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eeagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starfox:
These people having mangal in eighth house should offer sweets and bread prepared on tandoor to dogs..

I don't really know what that means? tandoor?

However I do have mars 8th and I left some boiled eggs and bananas for the wild foxes outside since its cubbing time and bloody freezing here


lol this is really funny hahaha

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posted January 16, 2013 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anno_lucis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
tandoor is a clay oven. rich pickings for those dogs, lol

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posted January 24, 2013 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 8ofHearts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BUSTED! lol.

I have Mars in 8th - so does my best male friend. You'll usually find a strong Pluto and/or Mars signature elsewhere in the chart also.

We're both entrepreneur types, with some dealings in Real Estate/Finance and definitely more aggressive personalities and very late to settle down. He just married at 39 and I'm edging closer.

Oh, as IQ says, Barbara Pijan Lama is awesome. She did a really cool reading for me but has a wealth of info for free on her site too.

I believe her suggestion for Mars in 8th (or anyone is that has a "Mangalik" chart is that your partner should also have a Mangalik type chart so that they are strong enough to handle you!

For Mars in 8th, she suggests that if you co-habit, you live in a bigger house or travel/give each other space so you're not right on top of each other, fighting. ;}

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posted January 25, 2013 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maelstrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
How much? JK!

Much cheapness baby....satisfaction guaranteed!

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posted January 25, 2013 04:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maelstrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 8ofHearts:
BUSTED! lol.

I believe her suggestion for Mars in 8th (or anyone is that has a "Mangalik" chart is that your partner should also have a Mangalik type chart so that they are strong enough to handle you!

For Mars in 8th, she suggests that if you co-habit, you live in a bigger house or travel/give each other space so you're not right on top of each other, fighting. ;}


Sooooo true! My partner is away for long periods throughout the year. I always say that if he wasn't we'd probably kill each other!!

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