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SDragon
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posted January 16, 2013 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm wondering if anyone has insight into the sesquiquadrate and how they play out in the natal chart?

I have 5 aspects so quite a bit, along with my quincunx and yod - yep, lots of aspects creating internal tensions.

Sun ssq Pluto
Moon ssq Jupiter
Neptune ssq Venus cj. Mars
Neptune ssq Jupiter

Chart: http://imageshack.us/f/13/astro2gw01p4800343699.gif/

Thanks!

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hannaramaa
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posted January 16, 2013 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump for this. I was wondering about Pluto ssq something of mine too. Hope iQ or someone can provide insight on this! Google doesn't have much, if anything.

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StacyLewis
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posted January 16, 2013 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StacyLewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have :

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mars sesquiquadrate uranus

Fire and Air - Self-Will can confuse Intuition

You may feel some strain when it comes to asserting yourself on the basis of your conscious feelings, for your preconceived ideas sometimes get in the way which has the result that you resist committing yourself too closely, possibly because you like to conserve your right to your freedom. You will learn that it is possible to commit yourself without sacrificing your individuality. http://astromatrix.org/Astrology/Aspect?planet1=mars&aspect=sesquiquadrate&planet2=uranus


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mercury sesquiquadrate neptune

Air and Water - Rational Mind can confuse Subconscious

You may feel quite confused when it comes to issues of self-assertion, for your upbringing has probably left you feeling that other people should come first. As you gain more experience, you will learn that this is not the case and you will learn to stand up for yourself more confidently; then your well developed imagination can be released for pursuit of your spiritual goals. http://astromatrix.org/Astrology/Aspect?planet1=mercury&aspect=sesquiquadrate&planet2=neptune



I had to Google this, because even though I've been into astrology for over a decade and know my way around most things, this stuff, I'm fairly clueless on other than knowing that they're very minor aspects.

They indicate, according to Wikipedia, 'somewhat stressful conditions' that are 'irresolvable, and that we must learn to live and cope with'.

Don't miss the point in that and start getting dramatic. The point is they're minor aspects that are only 'somewhat' stressful.

I think the reason there's not much on these things is simply for that reason alone; they're minor, and don't really figure that prominently in chart analysis. If you really want to focus on hard aspects and issues, any actual squares and oppositions are a much bigger deal.

But if you're adamant on looking them up, well the Wiki definition describes them as being a square plus a semisquare. So you could just look up the two planets as though they're forming a standard square aspect to one another, and read that interpretation, just water it down hugely in terms of it's strength, severity, and how much it'll impact your life.

On a side note - I see that Wiki got it right that sextiles are major aspects. That's nice to see, because I've lost count of how many times over the years I've seen people refer to them as a minor aspect. They aren't, and they never were.

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SDragon
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posted January 16, 2013 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks. I've also read my aspects on AstroMatrix as well since it seems to be the only one with a decent archive of Sesquiquadrate aspects but for some reason I'm not really satisfied with the interpretations.

I've never really paid much attention to the Sesquiquadrate either because of the fact that everyone considered them to be very minor aspect and yet there's a huge urge for me to want to figure out how the Sesquiquadrate is filtering into my awareness at this time.

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Jeff Green writes with great clarity about the cycle of aspects between two bodies. I find his work on the topic enlightening.

He doesn’t address the phasal relationship between Mars and the MC directly but using his explanation of sesquiquadrate from his books, I will extrapolate and say the angle is a call to awareness. The native has been working hard to understand their evolutionary intention regarding their personal will (Mars). With Mars sesquiquadrate the MC, on a soul level, the native needs to experience humility to begin the necessary work of recognizing and integrating the needs of the society in which (s)he lives.

The sesquiquadrate angle begins a Gibbous phasal relationship which requires the native to blend their individual purpose as expressed by their will with the needs of others. Depending on the native, humiliation and obstacles can stand in the way as the native begins the work of becoming cognizant of the needs of those around them particularly regarding the topic or archetype which Mars is trying to express.

It actually is an indication of much soul work has been accomplished in this area on the part of the native. Now it is time to take their experience and learn how to make it applicable for the greater good. It may help to remember that on a soul level, the native wants this experience though on an ego level it will seem very harsh since a re-imagining of the ego is what is necessary to proceed. http://www.astroknowlogy.com/questions/what-is-the-meaning-of-a-sesquiquadrate-aspect


Reading that seems to trigger a feeling of understanding and truth. It's all muddled in my head and I'll keep it around like a japanese koan and hope for insight and maybe come full circle and accept them to be minor aspects

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SDragon
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posted January 17, 2013 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Insight follow-up. I still don't think that Sesquiquadrate's should be considered as Square's in the general sense.

I believe that Sesquiquadrate's are aspects that create an internal belief system that the individual is born with. This isn't an energy aspect that conflicts per se such as between a square or quincunx but one that is carried forward from either a past life or soul expression and one that affect's the way one perceives the world.

The example's I would use from my own ssq are:

Moon/Neptune ssq. Jupiter - I've always had a strong belief in God or the ultimate source as well as reincarnation. There's always been a feeling of innate wisdom and being an older soul as well.

Sun ssq. Pluto - I've always felt a strong drive for self-analysis and internal psychoanalysis. I separate the ability to do psychoanalysis (pluto retrograde, pluto in the 8th, pluto quincunx mercury) with the actual drive/compulsion to do it (sun ssq. pluto)

Venus ssq. Neptune - I've always believed in unconditional love and still do though life experiences have tried to drag love onto a more mundane level

I know someone else can look at my chart and say, well mysticism belief could be Moon sq. Neptune and Moon in Pisces. Optimistic belief could be Sun sextile Jupiter, etc... But I guess we all see what we want (including me )

From reading Ssq and Square interpretation of the aspects, they don't actually seem to convey the true energies I feel in my chart. But surprisingly if I were to read a Trine aspect, I get that "aha" moment.

So, could ssq really be a 'belief' per se that defies the environmental influences and then as the individual matures or becomes more in tune with their soul expresses itself as a trine aspect?

Maybe, maybe not - but might as well throw it out there for discussion. Hamburg School of Astrology and Uranian Astrology believe the Sesquiquadrate to be a major aspect so there are still alternative views out there though I have no clue what their view is so not using it to substantiate my own. :P

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