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its_aqua
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posted January 20, 2013 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, so I have been having a mostly physical relationship with this guy since August.
He's a very late Cancer (last day of cancer), has a
Scorpio moon
Mercury in Cancer
Venus in Gemini
Mars in Aries

We have a very good physical chemistry, but other than that I can't really understand him.
I've heard that Venus in Gemini and Mars in Aries are placements of a player.
I'm very secretive about expressing my feelings if I'm not sure about how the other person feels. So I heven't really showed him that I would like a proper relationship.

I see him daily, because now we work at the same place, and he teases me all the time, but I haven't been to his place for like 2 months, as he hasnt invited me again.

Don't know if I should make a move? For instance there are numerous nights, when I know for sure he just goes to his place, and I just don't get why he doesnt invite me over.

What do you guys think?

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posted January 20, 2013 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Theory goes that when a Cancer invites you to his home he's making a major statement.

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posted January 20, 2013 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
Theory goes that when a Cancer invites you to his home he's making a major statement.

I've been 4 times to his house already, but it's only a physical thing you know :/

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posted January 20, 2013 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancer w/ Venus in Gemini, tricky. Perhaps you should invite to your place, or lunch and see what response you get.

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posted January 20, 2013 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
Cancer w/ Venus in Gemini, tricky. Perhaps you should invite to your place, or lunch and see what response you get.




I'm too selfish to ask him even for lunch, if I'm not sure the answer will be yes, and unfortunately I don't live on my own, so I can't really invite him home. I don't know what to do. I wonder if he just got bored, or is waiting for my move :/

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posted January 20, 2013 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did anything stand out from the last time you were there??

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I wonder if he just got bored, or is waiting for my move

With Gemini & Aries among his personals, probably.

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I'm too selfish to ask him even for lunch, if I'm not sure the answer will be yes

If true his Moon in Scorpio senses this fear and backed off. With Scorpio Moons, and Pluto-Moon types you have to be a little pushy, daring, assertive to get them.

eta: you'll probably be rejected upon first approach. The expectation is you'll shrug it off and come again. Chase him a little. Or it could be the ones I attract.

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posted January 20, 2013 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nine:
Did anything stand out from the last time you were there??

We have a great physical chemistry. When we are together it's too passionate and sensual. (We have DW Mars-Sun, Venus trine Venus, Sun square Pluto). He has also told me that, he always tells me that.


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Originally posted by Nine:
If true his Moon in Scorpio senses this fear and backed off. With Scorpio Moons, and Pluto-Moon types you have to be a little pushy, daring, assertive to get them.

So even if I dont do anything, does he sense I do this out of fear? Ugh, don't know what to do!!


Will he reject me on purpose or because he really doesn't want me? I thought men should do the chase :/

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posted January 20, 2013 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chocogold     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by its_aqua:

Don't know if I should make a move? For instance there are numerous nights, when I know for sure he just goes to his place, and I just don't get why he doesnt invite me over.

What do you guys think?


Wait a sec....
You were f*** buddies, he does not invite you anymore and you are wondering what you should do?
Astrology has nothing to do with this, it is just plain ol' common sense. MOVE ON.

You developed feelings for him, he is indifferent.
Don't make excuses for him or overanalize the situation.
He is not that into you, otherwise, he would be after you.


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posted January 20, 2013 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I worked with a Cancer-Scorpio, Venus in Gem, Mars in Libra, Leo Rising once upon a time. He "dated" three colleagues at one time or another, my suspicion was he wasn't that hot between the sheets.

The Libra said he was scary when drunk. The Aries wanted sex, but he wanted to live together and be committed. Never had a proper conversation with the other person.

He told me, "gawd, everyone is just sex, sex, sex no one wants to do relationships anymore." Of course we lived in a party city, what did he expect.

Once he said something that gave me pause, and I thought he knew more astrology than I did.

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posted January 20, 2013 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by chocogold:
Wait a sec....
You were f*** buddies, he does not invite you anymore and you are wondering what you should do?
Astrology has nothing to do with this, it is just plain ol' common sense. MOVE ON.

You developed feelings for him, he is indifferent.
Don't make excuses for him or overanalize the situation.
He is not that into you, otherwise, he would be after you.


You're right.. Thing is he keeps on teasing me and telling me that I forgot him.. So astrology is just a way of understanding a bit his personality. I myself, haven't expressed my feelings for him at all, so he probably thinks I'm okay with the situation.

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posted January 20, 2013 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been involved with more than one Cancer guy with Gemini venus (not by choice, that's just been a pattern before I knew anything about astrology).

One had Aries mars and Virgo moon, the other has Taurus Mars and Aries moon

How old is this guy? I think it takes experience and maturity to handle those placements because basically yeah the people I know could be classified as "players". They will commit but from what I've seen don't stay faithful...

Cancer will want to keep you around emotionally hence the teasing and stuff, but being too close too often will freak him out.. My only advice to you would be either tell him you want something more and he can take his time in deciding, etc, but you won't continue only having a physical relationship with him... Or, realize that the situation could literally continue the way it is now without changing for years if you never say anything and decide whether or not you're ok with that.

The first Cancer guy I was involved has been recently trying to get me to hang out with him and come over to his place (for I'm sure you can guess what) over 6 years later, even though he has a girlfriend now.. Ridiculous lol. The second one has been somewhat stringing me along emotionally but there is still no official commitment between us and that situation has been going on for years as well

eta: I also know a male Aries sun, Gem venus, Scorpio moon who has in his own words "cheated in every relationship he's been in". Although he's now 26 and hasn't actually been in a relationship for a long time, and I think he's matured a lot and (hopefully) learned from those experiences..

Anyway good luck

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posted January 20, 2013 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ I dated a Cancer sun and Gemini Venus too, he was leading a double life and through our one and half year relationship, he was never faithful. He was also manipulative and emotionally ...unpredictable. The guy couldn't help himself, commitment and maturity wasn't the guy's forte. One night, I was sleeping in the other room (back then his parents didnt really like sleepovers) and he was on the phone with some girl for nearly two hours in the early morning while I slept.

Yeah. Alot of sneaky behaviour behind my back.

I'd probably avoid this guy completely if I were you.

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posted January 21, 2013 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FireMoon:
I've been involved with more than one Cancer guy with Gemini venus (not by choice, that's just been a pattern before I knew anything about astrology).

One had Aries mars and Virgo moon, the other has Taurus Mars and Aries moon

How old is this guy? I think it takes experience and maturity to handle those placements because basically yeah the people I know could be classified as "players". They will commit but from what I've seen don't stay faithful...

Cancer will want to keep you around emotionally hence the teasing and stuff, but being too close too often will freak him out.. My only advice to you would be either tell him you want something more and he can take his time in deciding, etc, but you won't continue only having a physical relationship with him... Or, realize that the situation could literally continue the way it is now without changing for years if you never say anything and decide whether or not you're ok with that.

The first Cancer guy I was involved has been recently trying to get me to hang out with him and come over to his place (for I'm sure you can guess what) over 6 years later, even though he has a girlfriend now.. Ridiculous lol. The second one has been somewhat stringing me along emotionally but there is still no official commitment between us and that situation has been going on for years as well

eta: I also know a male Aries sun, Gem venus, Scorpio moon who has in his own words "cheated in every relationship he's been in". Although he's now 26 and hasn't actually been in a relationship for a long time, and I think he's matured a lot and (hopefully) learned from those experiences..

Anyway good luck


He's 24! Cancer men have been awfully tricky for me, another ex was a late cancer with Venus in Gemini,and took me months to get over him. But I don't know about this guy, because he has a Scorpio Moon and a Scorpio rising :/ He was quite enthusiastic in the beginning, and then he dissapeared for a week, re-appeared but our communication slowly faded. I'm so attracted to him but at the same time I'm so selfish and don't express my feelings :/

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posted January 21, 2013 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Haplesschild*:
^ I dated a Cancer sun and Gemini Venus too, he was leading a double life and through our one and half year relationship, he was never faithful. He was also manipulative and emotionally ...unpredictable. The guy couldn't help himself, commitment and maturity wasn't the guy's forte. One night, I was sleeping in the other room (back then his parents didnt really like sleepovers) and he was on the phone with some girl for nearly two hours in the early morning while I slept.

Yeah. Alot of sneaky behaviour behind my back.

I'd probably avoid this guy completely if I were you.


It's his Sun conjuncting my S.Node that make me so attracted to him

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posted January 21, 2013 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by its_aqua:
He's 24! Cancer men have been awfully tricky for me, another ex was a late cancer with Venus in Gemini,and took me months to get over him. But I don't know about this guy, because he has a Scorpio Moon and a Scorpio rising :/ He was quite enthusiastic in the beginning, and then he dissapeared for a week, re-appeared but our communication slowly faded. I'm so attracted to him but at the same time I'm so selfish and don't express my feelings :/

Yeah it's frustrating Cancers love to disappear and then reappear as if nothing happened... And you're not selfish for not expressing your feelings if the inconsistency makes you feel you can't trust him..

And I hear you about the Sun conjunct SN, my SN (along with ASC and chiron) is also in Cancer and it's been a difficult theme to move away from lol

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posted January 21, 2013 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why do Cancer men do that? I heard Pisces guys do it too, is it like a power trip, or do they get overwhelmed or ..?

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posted January 22, 2013 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Why do Cancer men do that? I heard Pisces guys do it too, is it like a power trip, or do they get overwhelmed or ..?

I don't know.. I think it's pretty much like the whole Cancer shell metaphor... Sweet and gooey emotions, which most of them have plenty of, aren't something they want to openly display all the time (especially for the males, since typical Cancer traits are considered verrrry feminine), and even though they want consistent reassurance from others they still need their time to hide away and re-group...

Other than that I have my theories that I could probably elaborate forever on, but all I know right now is that recently that's been driving me completely insane lol... The worst thing you can do is demand attention while they are "hiding" but I have not been able to restrain myself recently unfortunately..

As for Pisces, I've never dated one so I have no idea, but the impression I get is they can sometimes just live in their own world, and you may or may not understand how exactly you fit into that lol

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posted January 22, 2013 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the beginning he would text me daily, telling me his plans, but not really propose anything. It was like he was waiting for me to fit into his plans. as if it's easy to find someone to hang out at the same place, he's planning to hang out when he tells me that last minute.

His friends tell me he lives in his own small world. Ugh don't know what to do

Since he is born on the last day of Cancer, doesn't that make him Leo-ish??

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posted January 22, 2013 03:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am cancer. I do the disappearing thing a ton just because i like my quiet alone time a lot and have periods where i just dont want to be around anyone. not bc im depressed but bc its what makes me happy.

i can totally relate to the living in my own small world thing someone described him as. i think that is most cancers i know, even tho we may not appear that way (shell)

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posted January 22, 2013 04:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I am cancer. I do the disappearing thing a ton just because i like my quiet alone time a lot and have periods where i just dont want to be around anyone. not bc im depressed but bc its what makes me happy.

i can totally relate to the living in my own small world thing someone described him as. i think that is most cancers i know, even tho we may not appear that way (shell)


So how someone gets into your own small world?? With my Scorpio ex, good physical chemistry was enough to get into his world, and then get to know him better.
But I never got Cancers, and especially this one with the Scorpio moon.
I really really like him, but maybe he just lost interest in me? Although I see him many times luring at me.

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