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shybaby187
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posted January 21, 2013 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shybaby187     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im having a lot of trouble understanding this man. His chart is as follows Sag-sun Capricorn-moon Venus-Scorpio Pisces-Mars Scorpio-Mercury. I have been dating him for 10months and I must say I cannot read him plz help!!!! Btw im a sun in cancer asc in Scorpio venus in g em mars in cancer Mercury in cancer

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charlie
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posted January 21, 2013 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is it that you cannot "read"? I have found, thru trial/error, that it's better to just be blunt with men. Most of them, unless a super-player, will answer directly and honestly.

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hannaramaa
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posted January 21, 2013 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love Sag/Scorps.... so much tension. MMMM. But really, let us know what it is specifically you can't read. Usually a Scorp doesn't like to be read unless he wants you to so maybe you're pushing too hard? But you've been dating for 10 months so clearly you're doing something right.

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shybaby187
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posted January 21, 2013 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shybaby187     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im not able to read his thoughts, maybe im wording it wrong. Sometimes i step into a room and i am able to feel what certain individuals are feeling. With this man im not able to. Maybe i receive an unnerving effect by the way his eyes pierce right through me. However he has yet to tell me how he feels towards me i o on the other hand am straight forward with everything. He can be very blunt and harsh with his words and i like that. I have been told he and i have a strong karmic connection im confused to what this means. Also when im in his presence i feel safe comfortable nothing like my other prior relationships. I did have a miscarriage 6 months ago im just saying we never discussed this issue we tend to brush alot of our issues under the carpet lack of communication i must say...i do give him his space due to his sagittarius sun sign. Im just lost and confused guys

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charlie
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posted January 21, 2013 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a Cap Moon and if I choose to, you'll never be able to read any of my feelings!! I can be stone cold and I can be super goofy!! My eyes are also piercing-inherited some of it from my triple Scorp Mom- but I can melt steel...

Does he keep a steady line of conversation going? If yes, you have no need to worry. If no, worry.

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shybaby187
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posted January 21, 2013 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shybaby187     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol yes he can talk all night about his work, family, friends, his future/goals. My friends will tell me this is way of opening up too me feeling comfortable when im around...

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charlie
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posted January 21, 2013 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by shybaby187:
Lol yes he can talk all night about his work, family, friends, his future/goals. My friends will tell me this is way of opening up too me feeling comfortable when im around...

Yeah, don't worry and don't stress him!!

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shybaby187
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posted January 21, 2013 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shybaby187     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for responding, i appreciate it.

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hannaramaa
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posted January 22, 2013 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, but 10 months and going through heavy sh.t together... you would think a couple would be closer. I get what the karmic connection means. It explains why you feel safe with him, yet you can't read him. A Bella/Edward kind of connection (but without the dramatic spazzing out Kiersten Stewart has perfected.)

What I notice about Sag suns is they don't really like heavy topics. They can be heavy emotionally (but only for a moment, and on their time) though. The Scorpio in him I would think would balance that out though.

Is it also possible you can't read him because you're directly involved?

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Swift Freeze
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posted January 22, 2013 06:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swift Freeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
A Bella/Edward kind of connection (but without the dramatic spazzing out Kiersten Stewart has perfected.)

Excuse me? I think both characters do their fair share of "spazzing" out. I have to leave you Bella, for your own good, we won't have sex until I marry you, I don't love you (but really I love you so much i'm going to kill myself) etc. I'm not saying Bella/Kristen isn't great at "spazzing" out either. However, as films go, it is a pretty messed up way to teach younger people, generally girls, about how relationships work. The one saving grace, is that it teaches compromise, We'll get married, then you sleep with me, but I'm going to be human the first time... >_>

Maybe do not try so hard to understand, and just let it come more naturally. Or straight up ask him or talk about what you want.

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shybaby187
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posted January 22, 2013 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shybaby187     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes i will get these heavy feelings in the pit of my stomach he will run through my mind and than bam a text from him, no b.s. I honestly will admit i probably was not so forth coming with him in the beginning. I met him in miami on vaycay bak in March 2012, had the best heated/hot 2nights ever, i normally would have not did anything sexual with this kid but being vulnerable had a lot to do with it. Have a 3yr old lil girl which he knew about in miami. What i failed to tell him was i was fresh out of a physically/verbally abusive relationship with my daughters father, which i might add is a stalker and just wasnt quite out of my life. A month later (we will just call him M) M found out about the physical abuse and was very supportive and patient it came to a point where my daughters father came to visit stole my phone n contacted m and he still stayed around. But once again we never talked bout it and it was just thrown under the rug. After that call was made to m i went to see him n in plain view on the side where i sleep a condom out the wrapper was right there Plain view... I dont know its all childish too me But I cant leave him alone and im not clingy either

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hannaramaa
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posted January 22, 2013 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Swift Freeze:
Excuse me? I think both characters do their fair share of "spazzing" out. I have to leave you Bella, for your own good, we won't have sex until I marry you, I don't love you (but really I love you so much i'm going to kill myself) etc. I'm not saying Bella/Kristen isn't great at "spazzing" out either. However, as films go, it is a pretty messed up way to teach younger people, generally girls, about how relationships work. The one saving grace, is that it teaches compromise, We'll get married, then you sleep with me, but I'm going to be human the first time... >_>


LOL I wasn't advocating the film is a great example of relationships but that's what this girls' connection to her boyfriend reminds me of.

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Ann7
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posted January 22, 2013 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't read the other comments but from my experience a sag sun mixed with a Pisces mars would probably make for someone that's a bit elusive/evasive.

The sag sun wants freedom, the cap moon and scorp venus make the person possessive and that mars of his will make him, for lack of a better adjective, flakey.

My guy is a sag sun/ cancer moon scorp venus/ mars aquarius. I think his moon is what grounds him.

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enchantress299
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posted January 22, 2013 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shy- It's funny that you mention this... I just recently met a Sagittarius Sun/Scorpio Venus/Aquarius Moon guy, and I will say that I feel the exact same way about him- I can't read him and it's so weird! Personally, having had a lot of Sagittarius male friends, I do know that they tend to always "be on" with a positive bright attitude, and they rarely ever let you see their real emotions (although often they really are just that happy/oblivious). They do usually have their moments of emotional expression, but it only happens when they finally can't hold it in any more- and then after their mini-explosion you never hear about it again.

However... This guy is a bit different from the ones that I've known because with the other ones I've always been able to read their true emotions somewhere on their body or in their attitudes. I can't do it with this guy. It's so strange to me. I can't decide if it's just because he has some of the Aqua Moon aloofness or Scorpio reservedness going on...

Anyway, I just wanted to let you know that I empathize with you, because for some reason, that combination is mystifying me at the moment as well.

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inthemisosoup
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posted January 22, 2013 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for inthemisosoup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have basically the same.placements as this guy...except.my moon is in Pisces. i love heavy talk and talking about emotions and deep fears etc...i dont like light.hearted or superficial banter. maybe it's his moon. what kind of aspects do.his planets make?

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hannaramaa
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posted January 22, 2013 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think everyone here that's contributed had a Sag with a Scorpio Venus. So it's logical to think that's reserving a normally exuberant Sag nature, right?

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Aries23Degrees
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posted January 23, 2013 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If youb want to know how anyboy feels..don't. Its none of your business.

But if you insist it is your business to know, observe their body language.

Scorpio is not excatly a "difficult" sign to read; atleast not in my experience. More is said through the unspoken.

I am guessing its his Moon in Cap, Mars in Pisces combo that is tricky.

Either way, however, learn to read body language. This is an "unconscious" way that the person may give their true feelings/emotions away. No matter what signs that Mars and Moon may be.

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shybaby187
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posted January 23, 2013 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shybaby187     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Enchantess- i thank you for understanding where im coming from with this man, not saying that the rrest of you dont, i appreciate all of your advice. Its just mind boggeling too me that i cant see through him. Now like i said i think it is his intense gaze that just throws me off my damn track, im a scorpio asc i believe that his venus in scorpio outshines my asc lol. Im very familiar with the intense stare. I just wish at times he would open up too me. Actions do speak louder than words i know. I do believe it is his cap moon that closes him off emotionally towards me. And that mars in pisces ugh... As for his chart i will try my hardest to post. I dont know much about reading charts but help will be gladly appreciated

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shybaby187
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posted January 23, 2013 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shybaby187     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun Sagittarius 11.45 Ascendant Virgo 17.02
Moon Capricorn 17.19 II Libra 11.55
Mercury Scorpio 22.11 III Scorpio 11.36
Venus Scorpio 6.09 IV Sagittarius 14.56
Mars Pisces 5.30 V Capricorn 18.51
Jupiter Pisces 14.06 VI Aquarius 19.56
Saturn Sagittarius 12.10 VII Pisces 17.02
Uranus Sagittarius 21.56 VIII Aries 11.55
Neptune Capricorn 4.40 IX Taurus 11.36
Pluto Scorpio 8.38 Midheaven Gemini 14.56
Lilith Cancer 1.15 XI Cancer 18.51
Asc node Aries 19.24 XII

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shybaby187
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posted January 23, 2013 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shybaby187     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Planet Aspect Planet Orb/Value
Sun Square Jupiter 2.21 -137
Sun Conjunction Saturn 0.25 161
Sun Square Ascendant 5.17 -12
Sun Opposition Midheaven 3.11 -129
Moon Sextile Jupiter 3.13 58
Moon Trine Ascendant 0.16 61
Venus Trine Mars 0.39 84
Venus Trine Jupiter 7.56 1
Venus Sextile Neptune 1.29 79
Venus Conjunction Pluto 2.28 253
Mars Conjunction Jupiter 8.35 93
Mars Sextile Neptune 0.50 126
Mars Trine Pluto 3.07 64
Jupiter Square Saturn 1.56 -91
Jupiter Trine Pluto 5.28 43
Jupiter Opposition Ascendant 2.57 -101
Jupiter Square Midheaven 0.51 -64
Saturn Conjunction Uranus 9.46 7
Saturn Square Ascendant 4.53 -7
Saturn Opposition Midheaven 2.47 -55
Uranus Square Ascendant 4.53 -6
Uranus Opposition Midheaven 6.59 -13
Neptune Sextile Pluto 3.57 1
1031 -615 416

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