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watermonkey
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posted January 24, 2013 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for watermonkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Originally posted by watermonkey:
I wanted to post this thread before but i hesitated maybe i was thinking too much.

Hi guys i am just gathering some info, i know it might not sound right as i am relating astrology and a neurobiological disorder together. Lol but anyways how many of you 12th housers thinks or is diagnosed with attention deficit disorder? I am trying to see if there is any correlation between them.

I was recently diagnosed with ADD as an adult few months back(phew lucky not any later) and after i delved deeper into astrology i realised i have 12th house sun venus and mercury, than the other day muddytoes say she was a 12th houser with ADD too this leads me to think....



No ADHD/ADD here, sorry. (also have 12th house Sun, Mercury, and Moon)

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lalalinda
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posted January 24, 2013 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello watermonkey! Welcome to LL

You can see ADD and ADHD in hard Mars/Mercury aspects
especially the conjunction

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posted January 24, 2013 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
fish around the forums a bit (go thread mining!) lol

I think Glaucus, was it?? had posted topics on this before~ I'd look for you but.... I have to go get my ADHD child from school... XD

neither he nor I are 12h-ers -
but we both have ADHD (adult in my case)

like lala said... mercury and mars ~

I'm mercury ruler/dominant with sxt to mars~ and cnj to Neptune/Jupiter (stellium) I'm mentally and physically always on the go, and until I was in about 7th grade (though an extremely good student) I had to struggle to sit still and be quiet and pay attention to what everyone else was doing...

still struggle with these things...

12h house is Leo ruled, but Sun is in the 5th
, Capriocrn. ^^

my son has 12h Cancer, Libra Moon opposite his Aries Sun exact, with Mercury only making sextile to his Venus and being tight conjunct to Uranus n Pisces... (which is traditional 12h ruler) ~

the 12h house could show mental illnesses, but mental activity is a matter of the mind (Aries/Mars 1h), and thought (Mercury/Gemini 3h), I think that's how you deduce things...

^^ maybe someone else can explain better though...

I see what you are getting at though with the 12h suspicion. But, I believe it would include more than just the 12th house planet people... extending to all people and where their 12th house rulers are, and especially to the aspects they make that include prominent mars/mercurial energy~ taking into account also, and natural rulers of the 12th (Neptune/Pisces)... right???

<--- time restricted! ^^; sorry
(maybe later I'll bump a thread on the topic... I'm certain I saw a very extensive one from that LL member somewhere in the old astro-general forum??? mehbe!)

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I was diagnosed with ADD when I was 13 or 14. I have Mars and Jupiter in Gemini in my 12H, which is ruled by Taurus. Venus is in my 11H ruled by Aries and squares Saturn in the 7H.

Jupiter squares or is inconjunct my Midheaven in Pisces, and Mars is sextile my 11H Sun, Mercury and Venus. It's also conj. my Gemini ASC and inconjunct with Pluto in the 5H.

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posted January 24, 2013 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bridgetostars23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was diagnosed with ADHD. (Not sure how much weight I give a diagnosis anymore however.)

12th house sun and neptune.
But I also have Mercury square Mars.

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Originally posted by bridgetostars23:
I was diagnosed with ADHD. (Not sure how much weight I give a diagnosis anymore however.)


Yeah me neither. Unless you're one of those kids who has physical trouble sitting down, sitting still and paying attention it just seems like a fancy way of saying "You're bored in your environment, here's a pill to make it better." Doesn't everyone have trouble concentrating at least some point in their lives?

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posted January 24, 2013 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Sun, Uranus, and Saturn in my 12th house.

I don't have ADD, but I definitely lack interest in everything...

I thought I had developed ADD a couple of years ago, but things got better after I stopped smoking marijuana. lol.

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posted January 24, 2013 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have ADHD and I have Pluto, my chart ruler in my 12th opposite my moon and square my sun and mercury

My little brother does, though not as bad, and an empty 12th.
I know one guy who has ADHD with a 12th house sun.
A girl with a 12th house mercury w/ it
And a girl with a 12th house Venus with it too

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posted January 24, 2013 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would look for ADD/ADHD in grand crosses, afflictions involving Mercury or Mars (likely both), and maybe even some sort of mutable affliction.

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posted January 24, 2013 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesKat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yea I have it and all my friends say so too. mind always on a million things, hard time concentrating even in mid convo with people and forget about telling stories.

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posted January 24, 2013 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
I would look for ADD/ADHD in grand crosses, afflictions involving Mercury or Mars (likely both), and maybe even some sort of mutable affliction.

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posted January 24, 2013 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for watermonkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Hello watermonkey! Welcome to LL

You can see ADD and ADHD in hard Mars/Mercury aspects
especially the conjunction


Hello lalalinda

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posted January 24, 2013 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for watermonkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@bridgetostars and hannarama so does this means you guys did not went to have a actual diagnosis?

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posted January 24, 2013 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for watermonkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starfairy:
I have Sun, Uranus, and Saturn in my 12th house.

I don't have ADD, but I definitely lack interest in everything...

I thought I had developed ADD a couple of years ago, but things got better after I stopped smoking marijuana. lol.


lol no harm trying the dsm-iv criteria to check if you have adhd/add, were you hyperactive when you were younger like 8-12 years old? also the marijuana probably did abit damage to your brain already lol.

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posted January 24, 2013 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for watermonkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
I have ADHD and I have Pluto, my chart ruler in my 12th opposite my moon and square my sun and mercury

My little brother does, though not as bad, and an empty 12th.
I know one guy who has ADHD with a 12th house sun.
A girl with a 12th house mercury w/ it
And a girl with a 12th house Venus with it too


Awesome, i bet britney spears/justin timberlake, michael phelps etc. have a couple of 12th house too lol.

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posted January 24, 2013 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for watermonkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AriesKat:
Yea I have it and all my friends say so too. mind always on a million things, hard time concentrating even in mid convo with people and forget about telling stories.

Do you have any 12th house? or mars mercury confliction?? well you should get a actual diagnosis it might be life-changing.

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posted January 24, 2013 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bridgetostars23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@bridgetostars and hannarama so does this means you guys did not went to have a actual diagnosis?

I have been diagnosed. For me personally, the treatment recommended by my doctor was more harmful than helpful.

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posted January 24, 2013 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for watermonkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bridgetostars23:
I have been diagnosed. For me personally, the treatment recommended by my doctor was more harmful than helpful.

May i ask why :s? because of the meds?

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posted January 24, 2013 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bridgetostars23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep. Let's just say I liked the feeling a little too much!

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posted January 24, 2013 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for watermonkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bridgetostars23:
Yep. Let's just say I liked the feeling a little too much!


Hahaha ok, just dont abuse the med its fine

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posted January 24, 2013 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesKat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by watermonkey:
Do you have any 12th house? or mars mercury confliction?? well you should get a actual diagnosis it might be life-changing.


I may really have to get treated for it once i get back in school. I dont think it really was an issue when I was younger but now it is, Im much diff than when I was a kid. Im not sure I want to be medicated for it though, I know several people who said the medications did some horrible things to them like extreme weight loss and extreme mood swings. Lord I dont need to be anymore moody than I already am. What do you mean bu 12 house moon or mar afflictions?

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posted January 24, 2013 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by watermonkey:
lol no harm trying the dsm-iv criteria to check if you have adhd/add, were you hyperactive when you were younger like 8-12 years old? also the marijuana probably did abit damage to your brain already lol.


Nope, I was never hyperactive. I did well in school and university, but I found going to class horribly boring so I skipped a lot.

A triple Gemini guy I know is ADHD. Nothing in his 12th, though. Anyway, he is uber scattered and can't concentrate on anything.

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posted January 24, 2013 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesKat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can concentrate on astrology though

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I have ADD and several friends who have it too
We were also born on the same year WATER MONKEY, interesting lol

to be honest I think its this generation. Especially growing up texting and the internet really destroyed out attention span. I can't go a minute with out checking updates etc.
Maybe we need to look at outer planets like neptune and uranus..

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