posted January 24, 2013 12:01 PM            

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Originally posted by SaturnineMoth:
[b]@ Jessica2407

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I'll try to explain away my logic on the placements and these things while answering your questions!~ hopefully, it will be useful, but if not!~ I hope it is at least mildly entertaining!!! Haha (my 12th House Lion would like to be mildly entertaining at times!) XD!!!

It could be related here!~ haha it depends on who rules your 9th house, and what the ruler of it is doing~ I don't think Pluto is so much involved, but it could very well be... if you find yourself abroad and you are, you know... "just happening" to be introduced to the "right people" and having highly spiritual experiences "at just the right moment" like an epiphany, or you find yourself being trusted with finances from others, or things which your Pluto house governs... then you can say Pluto is related to it, sure!
But~ I think it has more to do with your 9h ruler... cause if I'm not mistaken, Scorpio is in your 11th house?? which would bring you hidden friendships, admirers, foes... and maybe the luck of chancing upon an organization that you can help out or vs/vs while abroad then... (relating the issues of 11th to 9th house, tied in with Pluto's area of general governance)! lol But, then you have to look at Pluto and anything in your 9th house in relation to its natural rulers too~ and do the same with the 11th! 11th is Aquarius/Uranus, and 9th is Sagittarius//Jupiter! So you can see Jupiters effect best, look at what he's doing to your ruler of the 9th too~ XD
(see how everything is related though???) It gets overwhelming, even to try and talk about it... and I'm not all too good with conveying my thoughts, though I try... (North Node purpose, I have to become more comfortable in the "teacher" chair instead of the "eternal student" like Sagittarius... lol I'm working on it, though I'm not very Geminine yet, I feel... haha) ^^;

Bear with me, please~ lol - m(_ _)m *bow*

I haven't seen your chart but I'm guessing this puts either Virgo or Leo in your 9th (or both for a real blessing!) ~
Mercury is the guardian of travelers, and being a Virgo 9her could aid you by being accommodating to others makes them more accommodating towards you, and receiving hospitality well!~ such as Virgos tend to... Virgo's Mercury goes very well with Jupiter/Sagittarius placement... (I can speak volumes on this, since mien are conjunct and co-dominate my chart! haha) But, I'll keep it short if I can help it!~ (Polonius... poor me!~ and my wicked lack of brevity!) lmao
If you have Leo in here too or even alone, that would be marvelous because then it connects back to your sun, your core!~ and you would surely thrive on foreign adventures, you'd shine and people would pick up on that vibrancy, and be very eager to help you, and accept you!~ as Leos are very well accepted into any stage~! no? lol *likes ending thoughts with questions, sorry!!!*

I can't be sure without looking it over myself, and I've got a flighty mind.... so my thoughts do get ahead of me most times... there's a lot I could ask and would say on each of these placements, regardless of aspects!~ But,the bottom line will be those aspects, and how they function within those placements.... they're the compass, the placements/chart is just the map... without those we're left wandering in circles~ ermmmm talking in them, if you are a South Node Sagittarius.... XD looool

I hope this is somewhat helpful though~ that you can see all the different ways you can relate the houses to one another and their rulers... and maybe, be able to welcome the positive side to the 12th house placements too!~ Pisces is the sign of our final evolution, that last leap/push forward into whatever comes next~ aye!? I respect those with 12th house placements, especially suns... I feel these people are the ones who've gotten to that peak, whether they've realized it yet or not, who are going to be venturing into the next "whatever is out there" sooner~ if not next! XD 12th house is extremely important in understanding where we stand though... especially for me~ (I have Draconic 12th house Gemini, my 12h house is natal Leo, and progressed fully into Virgo already)

<3 GL!!! [/B]

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posted January 24, 2013 12:23 PM            

Oh dear teacher, it's me who should ask you to bear with me!As soon as I can make sense of something in astrology another little challenge pops up, that's why am so into it.

I had so many questions to ask, and suddenly am blank, okay will try to formulate my questions along the way..

As you can see Jupiter Ruler of the 12th House is in 4th house, but it is said to be under the sign Taurus ruled by Venus which is found in H7. There is always a degree of apprehension with 12 house ruler, it being connected with our past lives and stuff. I do believe in karma, and dharma, one is like a credit bank account while the other one is like a debit bank account. Someone told me I have a strong 12th House, so based on what do you say that a house is strong or weak?

Moth:

I haven't seen your chart but I'm guessing this puts either Virgo or Leo in your 9th (or both for a real blessing!) ~

Well, yes Virgo is my 9th house ruled by Mercury which placed in H7. I have noticed that there is an interchange of the position of house rulers, that is H6 ruler Mercury in H7, and H7 ruler Moon in H6, does this interchange of house rulers also affect the H9 since Mercury is also the ruler of H9 and since as you said is the guardian of travelers?

Moth:

Mercury is the guardian of travelers, and being a Virgo 9her could aid you by being accommodating to others makes them more accommodating towards you, and receiving hospitality well!~...

I have noticed that when I travel abroad people are much more affectionate,really helpful and hospitable, and kind towards me.It's like when I leave my place, my luck itself changes and it has always amazed me but never could relate it to the planetary aspects in my chart.I can suddenly receive gifts, or complimentary vouchers, get access to highly privileged places, well I can tell you it's another kind of luck. I always thought it was because of Pluto, but you are right, it has happened to me though that I receive some highly spiritual experiences that are pretty overwhelming but very satisfying. I feel so fully recharged after those experiences but it doesn't really explain the luck and the amazing good faith of people I meet during those travels.But when I come back home, nothing much happens, it's like lady luck goes to sleep!Literally goes to sleep! Many people I went to see (psychics) have also told me the same thing but I want to relate it astrologically.

Moth:
But~ I think it has more to do with your 9h ruler... cause if I'm not mistaken, Scorpio is in your 11th house?? which would bring you hidden friendships, admirers, foes... and maybe the luck of chancing upon an organization that you can help out or vs/vs while abroad then... (relating the issues of 11th to 9th house, tied in with Pluto's area of general governance)! lol But, then you have to look at Pluto and anything in your 9th house in relation to its natural rulers too~ and do the same with the 11th!

Yes! scorpio is my 11th house, ruled by Mars found in H8 - leo but actually found in Virgo! ruled by Mercury which also rules my 9th H, and placed in H7! So I guess here is the connection of Virgo - leo you were talking about huh?

Moth:
if you are a South Node Sagittarius..

My NN is in Libra H10, so my SN would therefor be in Aries H4. Am I correct?