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aquaguy91
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posted January 26, 2013 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you ever talk to someone you just cant understand? like the way they word stuff baffles you and you cant understand what they are trying to say.. i know it has to have something to do with mercury but what kind of aspects to mercury cause this?

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Lazyscarecrow
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posted January 26, 2013 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lazyscarecrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes. For some reason I always feel this way with Sagittarius people, especially the men. I was talking to one today and maybe it didn't help that he was from another country and had a strong accent but his word choice and how speaks kind of took me a while to catch on. Compared to him, I'm like a toddler communicating simplistically with their parent while the parent just laughs and nods. I would actually nod and say "yes" when I didn't catch on. But it's even been with other Sagittarians too. I sense sometimes that they are like, "Ah, she's dense..." And then drift off mid-conversation to other things and adventures.

Anyways, yes I think it is Mercury square Mercury or Mercury square Sun, because many times these Sagittarians would have Scorpio Mercury and I have Leo Mercury. I feel like Scorpio Mercury would be more probing and profound while Leo Mercury is like, Wooooow duuuuude this is greeeeeat. But I never really have problems communicating with other signs. Well Taurus Mercury is another I'm not fond of, and that's square too. For some reason though, I can communicate just fine with the opposing Mercury in Aquarius. We approach intellectual topics differently but maybe the fire/air connection smooths things.

I'll just say Mercury squaring Sun, Mercury or maybe Moon in synastry.

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posted January 26, 2013 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think its synastry too.
Maybe mercury opposite mercury?
I was explaining a theory to my psychology professor and he was not understanding ANYTHING I was saying. He totally seems like a sag, everything about him. Other people had to explain it to him, and I starting to feel awkward too like there was come kind of language barrier.

and then I starting speaking in an accent and spaghetti starting oozing out of my pockets..

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Jessica2407
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posted January 26, 2013 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
you ever talk to someone you just cant understand? like the way they word stuff baffles you and you cant understand what they are trying to say.. i know it has to have something to do with mercury but what kind of aspects to mercury cause this?

I feel like that with my boss. He is explaining something, I can see he is dead serious,his lips are moving, but I don't understand sheet.I have my poker face on, he thinks I understand him because I keep nodding. Yes, I live it everyday.

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sand
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posted January 26, 2013 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Merc Pisces. Idk what it hit in my chart but I had to send stuff 2x over. 1 was the original and the other was another text explaining the original. In person it was the same.

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posted January 26, 2013 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ewww, this is so annoying. I have a bigger problem with understanding my own mother than you guys. She can't speak proper Polish and I often end up saying "I don't know what you mean. Speak Polish!!!". I don't have her chart so I can't tell where her Merc is.

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posted January 26, 2013 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
for me it's when there is a square to mercury from a personal planet

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posted January 26, 2013 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Squaring Mercuries are in fact very stimulating and rewarding.

There is a saying that less intelligent person leads the conversation... #foodforthought Cynics should rejoice

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enchantress299
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posted January 26, 2013 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would say probably Mercury in Pisces or Mercury opposite Mercury is when I feel like someone is speaking a foreign language to me.

The most problem I've ever had with a mutual feeling of both of us "just not getting it" has been with my Pisces friend. It turns out he has a Pisces Mercury Retrograde that opposes my Virgo Mercury to 1'. To be honest, it took us a long time to become friends and the communication issue is what stood in between us (and sometimes still does). When I first met him, he made a comment about who he 'thought' I was within 5 minutes of knowing me, and to me, it felt like he was pigeon-holing me without even knowing anything about me which was insulting. He didn't think he had said anything wrong. Due to the fact that we had mutual friends, we ended up finally making up and then eventually becoming very close friends, but communication issues have almost always stood in our way. However, we are much better at getting past them now than we once were.

Oddly, I took a lot at some of the other Pisces I've known, and they've never had Pisces Mercuries, which is probably why I've gotten along with them better.

Water Mercuries in general can be a little bit harder for me to understand and vice versa, but most of the time it's not nearly as bad as what it has been with my opposing Pisces Mercury friend.

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posted January 26, 2013 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the aspects of square or semisquare Mercuries...

and in the aspect of quincunx and sometimes opposite mercuries...

(not by sign alone though, but giving utmost attention to orb.)

And, (at least for me) when their Mercury squares either my Sun or Moon.

But each of these has a different effect that leads to miscommunication of some sort.

When I encounter someone with squared Mercury to my own, it's not often such a bad thing. For the most part I have to agree with what VenusDiSirius has stated in her post. This combination can make for somewhat "fun" bickering sessions, and even change (hopefully for the better) how we perceive what is being discussed... because you are essentially looking at things in a similar way, but you are interpreting them differently/approaching them differently, which is how I see squares playing out often in my own (short) experience with synastry.

But, with the opposition, because they may have their Mercury just opposite my sun, that's another ballgame entirely. These are often people who can emotionally hurt me with their words/phrasing... probably due to the fact their Mercury is then opposite of mine but sextile my Moon at the same time.... Plus, it is Cancer to Capricorn, and I already have the aspect of their Mercury and possibly Sun's ruler in hard aspect to my Sun's ruler... so the emotional influence they have with their words is deeply magnified. (I have this aspect with my Baba, I do think it has something to do with why I always took what she said to me, as her "hating" me, when later when I finally spoke up about it (years later), she confessed she's never hated me, but loves me unconditionally, like any grandma should, right! lol But, how she says things, and how I hear them... are so different, that we ended up having a lot of strained relations and long absences because of the ill-understanding... (Mercury opposite Sun* both ways)

The way the quincunx seems to me to play against communication, I can say has been with annoyance... lol that person usually says things which to me, are interpreted as being too light-hearted/without consideration, or too random (idk if it is felt this way by them too though)... and then I feel confused by them... what is interesting is that for this aspect to happen, it means their Mercury is either cnj to my MC or to my Chiron.... XD admittedly, my friends with their Mercuries here... they do have a habit of turning into the Charlie Brown-style adults that go "WhaWHA wha Whah wawaWha" instead of using actual words... it's annoying, and I do have a tendency to unintentionally "zone out" when talking with them. lol

A semisquare to my Mercury can be the same as either the quincunx or a full square effect... maybe they're effected by transits more... since their not "wholly" squares... what I mean is... I've noticed with people who have Mercury semisquare to my own, that at certain times we can communicate just fine... but at others we just don't agree on anything, and stumble on our words... I think somehow it ties into transit Mercury, or other forces at play... it's hard to tell! lol

Squares to the sun are for me, the worst... these people don't usually understand that they're saying something that rubs me the wrong way... IME that is... astrology helps though - and has~ cause once you know that's what is where the tension is coming from, you know how to avoid it, the "stepping on toes" or "talking over one another" and the senseless arguments... lol I think what helps, in my particular case... is that when someone has Mercury square to my Sun, at least they have the sextile/trine from my Mercury in our favour! (my Mercury is very early in Capricorn, my Sun is very late in Capricorn) --- it all depends on the orbs, eh?! ^^;

In case that their Mercury should square my Moon, I can be a bit sensitive to that person... it's not a super big deal, IME... not at all like the ones who have Mercury square my Sun... but, there is definitely something there which leads to communication errors... misreading the other persons intentions, and ideas...

I don't often feel or think, I misunderstand others, at least not too often. But, there are definitely times, and situations where it has happened,(often inopportune)... lol Maybe, it's having Mercury as the chart ruler, and dominant...

But, on the other hand... I'm always a bit lost with how I come off sounding, or how I word things and how they receive them/will receive them...

- that's Mercury semisquare Saturn though... plus, my Mercurial communicating, can be kinda erratic... my humour is drier than death valley, and I know how easily what I say/how I phrase things can and does sound narcissistic, pompous... shallow... sometimes... >.<; Cappy-Merc >.<;

Anyway - that's how I see those moments of, "dude.... wth are yo' talkin' `bout?" Oo;?

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hannaramaa
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posted January 26, 2013 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mercury square Neptune, and Mercury square Saturn. The Mercury square Neptune makes it hard for people to understand me for some reason, or be listened to for that matter. A lot of times it takes people a couple seconds to catch what I'm saying, and I have to be patient and watch as their face relaxes when they begin to process what I was saying actually wasn't complicated at all. Ironically although this Neptune square gives me an honorary Mercury in Pisces, I don't understand actual Mercury in Pisces at all. But I attract a lot of water mercuries which is QUITE frustrating.

Mercury square Saturn means it takes a bit for me to process what some other people are saying. Then I'm the one having facial tension! I think it also gives me a sloppy sounding way of speaking (in conversation with someone) Although it's a bit off topic, I heard this aspect (or maybe it was the Neptune one?) can indicate speech impediments. I have what's called a "tongue thrust" that impacts the way I swallow food, as well as where my tongue rests in my mouth. Long story short, it aided me in a lisp I've always been super paranoid about.

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Faith
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posted January 26, 2013 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by aquaguy91:
you ever talk to someone you just cant understand? like the way they word stuff baffles you and you cant understand what they are trying to say.. i know it has to have something to do with mercury but what kind of aspects to mercury cause this?

I don't understand your question...LOL. I think we have Mercury conjunct sun DW, which ought to make communication smooth sailing, but you sometimes confuse me.

Are you talking about a person who doesn't seem to make sense to anyone, and you want to focus on their natal Mercury?

-Or-

Are you talking about a synastry situation, where you are getting mixed-up messages with a person who seems to make perfect sense to other people?

It could also be a transit situation, or circumstances where a person is cryptic on purpose...

Would you please clarify your question or give examples?

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Odette
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posted January 27, 2013 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Definitely Mercury opposite Mercury.
Mine is Pisces - I have no desire to understand Virgo Mercury people or to talk to them in general.

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