posted January 31, 2013 08:23 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I thought orbs are just the degrees at which the planets lie? OH unless you mean if there's more than one planet in a house.

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posted January 31, 2013 08:56 PM            

If you have Venus in the 1st opposite Saturn in the 7th, you may have difficulty in relationships. You feel unworthy of love, and may suffer from low self-esteem. My ex-boyfriend has this, actually. He was very vain (venus in the 1st), but had low self esteem (opposite Saturn). He put so much emphasis and energy into his looks, but he was extremely critical of his appearance. He also lacked confidence when in a relationship. He always felt he wasn't "good enough" for the other person.

However, his 9th house Uranus trined his natal Venus and sextiled his Saturn. While he, himself, suffers from low self-esteem, and is fearful of getting hurt/rejected, he has gotten a lot of girls throughout his life! He has dated women of all types of cultural/ethnic backgrounds (uranus in 9th house). He travels a lot, and has had a lot of interesting meetings with "different" types of women. So, while he fears relationships and feels unworthy of love, he does not lack options!

Speaking of T-squares, his Venus-Saturn opposition also squares his Neptune in his 10th house in Sagittarius. While he definitely wants a committed relationship (7th house Saturn), and is very loving and affectionate (venus in his 1st house), his career (10th house) has always involved a lot of travel (Neptune in 10th house). Neptune rules his 1st house, so his identity is very much wrapped up in his career. Literally every time he tries to have a relationship, his busy work schedule gets in the way. It's practically impossible for him to have a real relationship.

posted February 02, 2013 06:49 AM            

On topic:

Yeah it's pretty difficult to interpret a chart, especially when you don't know the person well cause there are way too many ways the energies can manifest.

But it's good to start with the basics: learn about elements, signs, houses, aspects. Then try to understand why some of them are in conflict with each other, and why some of them get along (ex Aries wants action while Cap wants caution = conflict, square signs). And when you look at a chart, if you want to get the big picture about someone, look at the pattern: are the planets all in one place? Or all over the place? In what elements, and what houses? What's important to that person, where do they pour all that energy? Houses are VERY important, without them you don't know what's really important to the individual. Theeen look at aspects, and see what areas of life clash with each other (hard aspects) and which ones have an easy flow of energy between them (easy aspects). Conjunctions represent a blending of energies, so whenever you find a conjunction in a house/sign, it's very important because a "double dose" energy is poured in that area, so to speak (check which houses the planets rule for additional info). Look at the number of easy vs hard aspects: easy aspects usually make someone easy-going and internally balanced, whereas hard aspects indicate an internal (and external) struggle that the individual is probably aware of and may or may not try to solve consciously.

And remember, trines aren't always that good. They make it easy for people to fall into complacency, laziness, or sloppy behaviour. People with many trines aren't usually as self-aware as those with hard aspects because they're just "fine" living their life as it is, which leaves no room for change or improvement.

However, a hard aspect is always a hard aspect and even trines to that aspect won't usually make it easier. So it does need to be dealt with consciously, because otherwise it leads to a lot of pain and conflict.

So yeah, all in all, first look at the big picture, signs - and especially elements - and of course houses. Then check aspects to pinpoint where the potential conflicts lie.

posted February 02, 2013 05:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:

However, a hard aspect is always a hard aspect and even trines to that aspect won't usually make it easier. So it does need to be dealt with consciously, because otherwise it leads to a lot of pain and conflict.

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Ahhh, thank you Doux Reve

posted February 02, 2013 05:25 PM            

Hmm okay let me think.

For example, you have Moon square Venus.
And Moon trines Neptune.

So, you may have difficulties between choosing what's "right" for you VS what you really want. Maybe you choose partners that don't suit you, you like them but can't get along. That's the Moon/Venus square being activated. And that trine from Neptune to the Moon, can make you way too forgiving and sacrificial in situations that would have needed a firm, rational decision. Say your SO cheats on you, and that clashes with your values (Venus) but you're too in love with him (Moon) so you just forgive him (Neptune) instead of leaving or establishing firm boundaries. Or you can fall into addictions because of it, it can be anything.. doesn't have to be drugs. It can be the internet, the movies, sports, whatever, as long as you can escape that Moon/Venus conflict. And the trine is a flowing aspect, so you'll just naturally do that. Forgive or escape (all just examples, eh).