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Topic: Air Singleton?
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bridgetostars23
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posted January 31, 2013 08:50 PM
  
Does having Chiron in Gemini as the only air in my chart make me an "air singleton"? IP: Logged |
Lazyscarecrow
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posted January 31, 2013 08:52 PM
Possibly. I'm not super knowledgeable on these things but some would consider it an elemental singleton, while others would say it must be unaspected to be a singleton of any kind.Is it aspected? and which house is it in? IP: Logged |
bridgetostars23
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posted January 31, 2013 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by Lazyscarecrow:
Possibly. I'm not super knowledgeable on these things but some would consider it an elemental singleton, while others would say it must be unaspected to be a singleton of any kind.Is it aspected? and which house is it in?
Oh yeah, it's actually heavily aspected. It's in the 5th house. IP: Logged |
ail221
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posted January 31, 2013 08:55 PM
Its debatable because Chiron is a minor planet not a asteroid but there are over 310,000 minor planets and only about 16,000 are given names.IP: Logged |
bridgetostars23
Knowflake Posts: 369
From: virginia, usa
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posted January 31, 2013 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by ail221:
Its debatable because Chiron is a minor planet not a asteroid but there are over 310,000 minor planets and only about 16,000 are given names.
Thanks. Would that make me(debatably)air void then? IP: Logged |
ail221
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posted January 31, 2013 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by bridgetostars23:
Thanks. Would that make me(debatably)air void then?
No at least by my judgement because it is heavily aspected. IP: Logged |
bridgetostars23
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posted January 31, 2013 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by ail221:
No at least by my judgement because it is heavily aspected.
Okay....seems like "bad air" though, boo. IP: Logged |
ail221
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posted January 31, 2013 09:10 PM
It think Chiron is misunderstood and theirs a reason Chiron is a centaur the dual nature of it (part human/part horse)sure chiron can be a pain in the bum, but it serves it purpose to teach healing. Chiron orbits between Saturn (fate) and Uranus (freedom) its up to you to decide whether you'll allow for chiron to have a negative or positive affect on you and transform you or others around you. IP: Logged |
bridgetostars23
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posted January 31, 2013 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by ail221:
It think Chiron is misunderstood and theirs a reason Chiron is a centaur the dual nature of it (part human/part horse)sure chiron can be a pain in the bum, but it serves it purpose to teach healing. Chiron orbits between Saturn (fate) and Uranus (freedom) its up to you to decide whether you'll allow for chiron to have a negative or positive affect on you and transform you or others around you.
I do agree...between fate and freedom, I like that, I think it's important...
It's also in retrograde...
Here are the aspects to Chiron:
Chiron sesiquadrate moon
chiron opposite mercury
chiron quincux venus
chiron square mars
chiron square jupiter
chiron opposite saturn
chiron opposite uranus
(biquintile ascendant and quincux midheaven) I think being in Gemini is has caused communication issues but I am looking for ways to heal that and looking for clues in my birth chart too. IP: Logged |
ail221
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posted January 31, 2013 09:32 PM
Sometimes it isn't a natal issue You could be going through a Chiron transit through either your 2nd (self worth house) or 3rd house (communication and community ) issues. Transit Chiron is currently in 8 Pisces direct see if it hits anything in your chart.IP: Logged |
bridgetostars23
Knowflake Posts: 369
From: virginia, usa
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 31, 2013 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by ail221:
Sometimes it isn't a natal issue You could be going through a Chiron transit through either your 2nd (self worth house) or 3rd house (communication and community ) issues. Transit Chiron is currently in 8 Pisces direct see if it hits anything in your chart.
Well Transit Chiron is
sextile sun
trine moon
quintile mercury
conjunct jupiter (in 2nd house)
square saturn
sextile neptune
trine pluto I can't tell if that's a normal amount of contacts or not. IP: Logged |
peregrine
Knowflake Posts: 247
From: The Lion's Den
Registered: Apr 2012
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posted January 31, 2013 09:43 PM
I am an air void. I don't count Chiron. Mine is in gem too. I have a yod to it though if I did. But then patterns like yods only apply to planets once again... My sun has progressed into Gemini. I suppose that helps somewhat with the air void. North node beingin that sign as well. Also I am hugely attracted to air in others... I do find them a bit too up in the air/ ideas sometimes. I am earth. I want tangibles/ results/ quantifiable numbers... IP: Logged |
bridgetostars23
Knowflake Posts: 369
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posted January 31, 2013 10:19 PM
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Originally posted by peregrine:
I am an air void. I don't count Chiron. Mine is in gem too. I have a yod to it though if I did. But then patterns like yods only apply to planets once again... My sun has progressed into Gemini. I suppose that helps somewhat with the air void. North node beingin that sign as well. Also I am hugely attracted to air in others... I do find them a bit too up in the air/ ideas sometimes. I am earth. I want tangibles/ results/ quantifiable numbers...
My sun has progressed into Aquarius, maybe that will help me. I am also very attracted to air in others, almost uncannily so. IP: Logged |
RedScorp
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posted February 01, 2013 12:25 AM
I say no, Chiron doesn't count to singletons.  Same with NN or Vertex, etc...The only things I count towards singletons are the main planets and the AC/MC (the angles being more of an experiential thing, as in, I count them because of experience). IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion
Knowflake Posts: 1306
From: PA, USA
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posted February 01, 2013 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
I say no, Chiron doesn't count to singletons. Same with NN or Vertex, etc...The only things I count towards singletons are the main planets and the AC/MC (the angles being more of an experiential thing, as in, I count them because of experience).
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charlie
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From: los angeles, ca, USA
Registered: Jun 2012
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posted February 01, 2013 06:15 PM
I have a Pluto Air singleton, if that still counts..In my Prog Chart I have Uranus in Water and Pluto Air singletons. I attract much "air" from people and if they can't mentally stimulate me, I get super bored, super quickly! IP: Logged |
bridgetostars23
Knowflake Posts: 369
From: virginia, usa
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 02, 2013 01:36 AM
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
I say no, Chiron doesn't count to singletons. Same with NN or Vertex, etc...The only things I count towards singletons are the main planets and the AC/MC (the angles being more of an experiential thing, as in, I count them because of experience).
Thanks...pardon me if it's been answered but....if we can't count it for being an air singleton....then does that make me air void? IP: Logged |
RedScorp
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From: The Sun
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posted February 02, 2013 01:42 AM
^That's all right! It's good to ask questions.  Yes, you are an air void! You might not be particularly outgoing or you may be chatty, but talking to people...socialising, basically, will probably drain you over time. Being immature, unreasonable/optimistic, lighthearted - those are traits that do not come easily. You might be far more cautious.Ring any bells? IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 02, 2013 01:53 AM
I don't know which human is given the glorious task to rank planetary bodies by its importance. We give great importance to pluto while its not even a planet. Logically I can argue pluto was significant because it was once considered a planet, but astrologers know that isn't the case.
Op Chiron could be interrupted as a singleton, maybe not traditionally. Traditionally they were not even aware of outer planets...Chiron does have a lot of influence in peoples charts anyways, it can even rival planets. If you feel that chiron is significant to you perhaps it does give the energy of a singleton
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Doux Rêve
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posted February 02, 2013 06:07 AM
Chiron doesn't rule a sign, it's not a planet but an asteroid (in astrological terms).
So you're an Air void.And if you still want to consider your Chiron singleton, well, that's bad news cause it would mean that all themes related to Chiron are emphasised (pain in the area it rules - sign & house). I'd consider you an Air void, definitely.
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Orange
Knowflake Posts: 126
From: Georgia
Registered: May 2009
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posted February 02, 2013 08:05 AM
You can still consider the Angles, if any is in water sign. It won't define your character but will define your drives. If MC is in water, for example, you will funnel the entire chart through your MC - work, public image, one of the parent, possibly the father.IP: Logged |
bridgetostars23
Knowflake Posts: 369
From: virginia, usa
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 02, 2013 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by Orange:
You can still consider the Angles, if any is in water sign. It won't define your character but will define your drives. If MC is in water, for example, you will funnel the entire chart through your MC - work, public image, one of the parent, possibly the father.
You mean air sign, right? IP: Logged |
bridgetostars23
Knowflake Posts: 369
From: virginia, usa
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 02, 2013 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Chiron doesn't rule a sign, it's not a planet but an asteroid (in astrological terms).
So you're an Air void.And if you still want to consider your Chiron singleton, well, that's bad news cause it would mean that all themes related to Chiron are emphasised (pain in the area it rules - sign & house). I'd consider you an Air void, definitely.
I don't want to but I do relate to the pain assoicated with communication issues. However, I guess it could also relate to a person who is air void and who is obsessed with air, correct? (I feel obsessed sometimes with making sure I am understood and feel it is never possible.)
Thanks for your help. This is very interesting. IP: Logged |
bridgetostars23
Knowflake Posts: 369
From: virginia, usa
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 02, 2013 09:29 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I don't know which human is given the glorious task to rank planetary bodies by its importance. We give great importance to pluto while its not even a planet. Logically I can argue pluto was significant because it was once considered a planet, but astrologers know that isn't the case.
Op Chiron could be interrupted as a singleton, maybe not traditionally. Traditionally they were not even aware of outer planets...Chiron does have a lot of influence in peoples charts anyways, it can even rival planets. If you feel that chiron is significant to you perhaps it does give the energy of a singleton
Thanks...I suppose this is more up to me then. IP: Logged |
Orange
Knowflake Posts: 126
From: Georgia
Registered: May 2009
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posted February 02, 2013 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by bridgetostars23:
You mean air sign, right?
YES. sorry. Air sign is what I meant IP: Logged |
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