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Topic: Earth in Astrology
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violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1438 From: a thousand years of solitude Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 01, 2013 02:36 AM
So, I have had this thought before but decided to discuss it further. What is your take on our Earth in astrology? We are natives of Earth, so what is our homes energy on us astrologically? Since we are living on it I do believe that the sign Ascending(Your Asc) on the eastern horizon at the time of your birth holds significance. --> http://www.librarising.com/astrology/misc/planetearth.html or is the Suns position or energy in relevance to Earth also a factor in the Earths energies? This link discuses that the position of Earth in your chart is exactly 180 degrees away from your Sun --> http://www.alanoken.com/newsletter/Aug07/newsletter0807d.html Do you ffeel your Ascendant sign is a better represetation of Earths energy on you or what the latter article suggests, the position exactly opposite to your Sun?
Should not Earths energy be the most prominant to us here? What are your views regarding this? Any well-informed information on this would also be great. ------------------ The love you seek, you will find within. IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 4925 From: The Sun Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 01, 2013 06:04 PM
I think Earth will be important should people colonise another planet in our solar system. Other wise, I don't think the Earth has importance. IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 327 From: los angeles, ca, USA Registered: Jun 2012
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posted February 01, 2013 06:11 PM
Funny. I have my Sun opposite Sun's home (5H) and that's where I have my Moon. My moon is ME, my Sun is not me, at all. Does this mean that I am "Earth"?? Or Sun??I just confused myself. :-/ IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 523 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 01, 2013 06:35 PM
I agree with redscorp if we go to mars then earth will probably take the moons place in importance. Would humans be arian and scorpionic in nature? hmm Interesting... Well now I realized earthlings have a distinct nature, Perhaps if we were on another planet human society would be different. IP: Logged |
moonlightx Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted February 01, 2013 06:41 PM
What happens when your Earth sign is the Ascendant such as is the case with me? My ascendant is Cancer, opposite from my Capricorn sun.IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 523 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 01, 2013 06:43 PM
^ I want to know that toooooIP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 5628 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 01, 2013 07:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by RedScorp: I think Earth will be important should people colonise another planet in our solar system. Other wise, I don't think the Earth has importance.
yea i wonder how that would work, would earth replace the planet we colonize? IP: Logged |
SaturnineMoth Knowflake Posts: 1765 From: *The Land of Oz* Registered: Aug 2012
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posted February 01, 2013 07:37 PM
I believe the Earth's energy is within the progression of our signs, that it is the anima behind it. I don't dwell on thoughts of science fiction much (too frightening for alien-phobic me), to think about how that would translate over when mankind establishes colonies anywhere else in the solar system/space... lol Just for us here and now... that's plenty of food for thought on its own, or at least, I'd hope so anyway! haha So for me, the Earth's energy is represented on its own, and not by the signs but by the evolution, and motion of the signs around us... in this way, we receive Earth energy from all of them in turn, and all the planets work to contain that energy, and draw it back inward to each of us. The sun serves to spotlight one facet of ourselves in a given time, and the ascendant is our costume, but the earth is our stage, as everything is constantly in motion, the backdrop changes (houses/sighs/planets... progressions), and everything else, sorta' just follows in place, with each new scene/stage of our lives. We can maintain all that we have been taught/seen/experienced as our previous signs/placements, but the process continues endlessly so that we experience all that is required of us in this lifetime... (something to that effect.) I guess in this way of thinking, the Earth represents the 5th element, in a way... I think? lol (what would we assign to earth but the 5th, anyway... since we already have 3 of fire, water, earth, and air)... lol so many conundrums! >.<; And, as for a sign... the symbol of the Earth/planet you are currently living on... wouldn't that sign be the entire chart? @_@; I don't know, really... >.<; Anyway, that's my weird way of thinking at least! lol >.<; doh! *no sci-fi just hippy-trippy fantasy here! lmao* I also think it pays to think that while we could/may/possibly (iunno Oo;!) one day settle on another planet, or meet someone who has... idk! lol That while there, they will have other bodies that are considered planets in relation to their sizes/sizing methods, and they may have other moons and suns! Which is just a little bit too much for my lil' mind to handle! XD Just saying... Anywho!! It's a fascinating topic, Violet~! I really enjoyed the articles in the links too~ Lots of information to take in, but I'll be referring back to them as my thoughts on the matter are sure to change and take new shape, they kinda... always do. hah! *mutable* The only thing I didn't agree with was where it says in one that "the Earth needs a real name" - because it already has two... Roman, Terra/Tellus and Greek, Gaea. <3 (granted Gaea is also an asteroid now... we tend to use Roman mythological names anyway, and hey... we're all terrestrials... Terra it is! lol) >.>;;; no? Anyway - I agree with and enjoyed the Librarising article the most~ ^^; there's a lot there though... <3 will need to take time and digest it all!~ ty again for sharing it though!!! truly~ I don't think my response is credible enough though, I tend to go into deep metaphysical/spiritual mode with these sort of things... sorry! ; ;
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peachbeigeblue Knowflake Posts: 2552 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted February 02, 2013 03:47 AM
I think the asc makes more sense for me. Opposite the sun is the empty space of my tsquare. I really don't feel it. But I do also see the moon being earth too. Hm. I vote moon IP: Logged |
Lotis White Knowflake Posts: 920 From: USA Registered: Dec 2010
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posted February 02, 2013 07:30 AM
Personally, I've always suspected that Earth is the true ruler of Taurus. Only because we are actually on the Earth, Venus has taken over this rulership in astrological terms. If we were to move to Mars though, Earth would probably be the ruler of Taurus again, and we'd probably need a new 'stand-in' ruler for Aries. Just guessing though, so who knows. IP: Logged |
violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1438 From: a thousand years of solitude Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 02, 2013 08:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by RedScorp: I think Earth will be important should people colonise another planet in our solar system. Other wise, I don't think the Earth has importance.
Hmm, why is that? Why would earth only have importance to you(in terms of energy) once you are further away from it? Does not it make more sense that since you are living on earth it's influences are greatest on you compared to planets further away? My whole point or thoughts on this are exactly this. Maybe the rising sign is of greater importance than what we give it. IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 4925 From: The Sun Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 02, 2013 08:50 PM
Well...astrology is based off of our perspective from earth. We live on earth and we're born of it, while the other planets and their energy comes to/influences us - people of the earth.Rising sign would make sense if anything, I think...personally, I've always considered Sun sign and Rising sign most important. IP: Logged |
violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1438 From: a thousand years of solitude Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 02, 2013 08:59 PM
Yes, what I was meaning to say was our Earth does have importance , the most being to us, here on Earth as we live on it lol why should the Sun get more importance from us? LOL.(although very important of course.)We should all really try and blend our energy in and with mother nature while we are here. IP: Logged |
Lotis White Knowflake Posts: 920 From: USA Registered: Dec 2010
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posted February 02, 2013 09:09 PM
I think the rising sign is very significant, but I tend not to believe it symbolizes the Earth in our chart. The Asc doesn’t symbolize the entire Earth itself but rather the eastern horizon, and the Dsc is the western horizon. So which one do you pick? Why look at only one horizon? What about the Earth directly under our feet? My thoughts are that if the Earth is in our chart at all, it’s the point directly opposite our Sun, which is directly under our feet. The terra firma on which we are currently standing. The Asc shows of our personal perspective on the world, as the eastern horizon. The Dsc shows our perspective on relationships, as the western horizon. The Earth itself is a mighty big thing which stretches between these two horizons, and from our perspective is constantly in opposition to the Sun. Astrology is all about how things look from where we are standing. Retrograde planets are not really going backwards, but because that's how it looks to us due to the way the planets are moving, retrograde periods astrologically indicate going back and double checking things. Because we are on the Earth itself it's hard to see it in any kind of perspective. We're too involved. But if we could it would be opposite the Sun which is our central focal point. The opposite of our focal point is where we are standing right now. On the Earth. IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 4925 From: The Sun Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 02, 2013 09:14 PM
Randomly here, Vwiolet, but the universe expands at such a rate and pace and in every direction that, no matter where you are, you are literally the centre of the universe. Everything around us is expanding away from us at the same pace, and the same is said about the next star over.Siiiigh, life. I love living, ya kno that... IP: Logged |
violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1438 From: a thousand years of solitude Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 02, 2013 09:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lotis White: I think the rising sign is very significant, but I tend not to believe it symbolizes the Earth in our chart. The Asc doesn’t symbolize the entire Earth itself but rather the eastern horizon, and the Dsc is the western horizon. So which one do you pick? Why look at only one horizon? What about the Earth directly under our feet? My thoughts are that if the Earth is in our chart at all, it’s the point directly opposite our Sun, which is directly under our feet. The terra firma on which we are currently standing. The Asc shows of our personal perspective on the world, as the eastern horizon. The Dsc shows our perspective on relationships, as the western horizon. The Earth itself is a mighty big thing which stretches between these two horizons, and from our perspective is constantly in opposition to the Sun.
I see what you are saying. So astrologically dont you think it is then a mix of both things? The horizons and the ground? Your angles and the position opposite to your Sun? If so, then do you think the positon opposite to your SUN is more prominant in its energy for you? Is it a better repersentation of you over your Sun sign? if not, what does that point represent in us? Something to think about. IP: Logged |
violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1438 From: a thousand years of solitude Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 02, 2013 09:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by RedScorp: Randomly here, Vwiolet, but the universe expands at such a rate and pace and in every direction that, no matter where you are, you are literally the centre of the universe. Everything around us is expanding away from us at the same pace, and the same is said about the next star over.Siiiigh, life. I love living, ya kno that...
ahahah, you need to be more grounded maybe? yes if the universe is expanding, energy is also continues to. But the question is how is that really reflecting our astrological views? What you are closer to is still what you are closer to. Do not you think? Yes since I am here now, I like living too btw what did you say your rising sign was again? IP: Logged |
violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1438 From: a thousand years of solitude Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 02, 2013 10:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by SaturnineMoth:So for me, the Earth's energy is represented on its own, and not by the signs but by the evolution, and motion of the signs around us... in this way, we receive Earth energy from all of them in turn, and all the planets work to contain that energy, and draw it back inward to each of us. The sun serves to spotlight one facet of ourselves in a given time, and the ascendant is our costume, but the earth is our stage, as everything is constantly in motion, the backdrop changes (houses/sighs/planets... progressions), and everything else, sorta' just follows in place, with each new scene/stage of our lives. We can maintain all that we have been taught/seen/experienced as our previous signs/placements, but the process continues endlessly so that we experience all that is required of us in this lifetime... (something to that effect.) I guess in this way of thinking, the Earth represents the 5th element, in a way... I think? lol (what would we assign to earth but the 5th, anyway... since we already have 3 of fire, water, earth, and air)... lol so many conundrums! >.<; And, as for a sign... the symbol of the Earth/planet you are currently living on... wouldn't that sign be the entire chart? @_@; I don't know, really... >.<;
I like your prespective and I do agree. On a grander scale(something to the effect of what redscorp has said here somehwere), simply put, all energy is reflective and intertwined some where. To that I totally agree. I was just trying to discuss though the asrtological value of Earth to us here on Earth. Just thought that should be most important to us in terms of a basic energy source. I mean if there were inhabitants on another planet, their home planet would indeed be their most prominant energy source while they were living on it. Just thought we should put Earth into more consideration you know!
quote: Anywho!! It's a fascinating topic, Violet~! I really enjoyed the articles in the links too~ Lots of information to take in, but I'll be referring back to them as my thoughts on the matter are sure to change and take new shape, they kinda... always do. hah! *mutable* The only thing I didn't agree with was where it says in one that "the Earth needs a real name" - because it already has two... Roman, Terra/Tellus and Greek, Gaea. <3 (granted Gaea is also an asteroid now... we tend to use Roman mythological names anyway, and hey... we're all terrestrials... Terra it is! lol) >.>;;; no? Anyway - I agree with and enjoyed the Librarising article the most~ ^^; there's a lot there though... <3 will need to take time and digest it all!~ ty again for sharing it though!!! truly~I don't think my response is credible enough though, I tend to go into deep metaphysical/spiritual mode with these sort of things... sorry! ; ;
Oh thankx =] I'm glad you found it interesting too. and Gaea <3 yes, interesting you mention that. I remember reading that meant "earth" in some library book back when I was like 14 and I remember thinking "that's what i'll name my daughter." lol. still beautiful one word meaning of mother earth though. and no, your response is very credible, ahah its not your fault, you say you have some mutable, you cant help but look at the bigger picture IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 4925 From: The Sun Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 02, 2013 10:28 PM
quote: violet7887: btw what did you say your rising sign was again?
Me? Grounded? Nevah! I'm a Leo rising, at 26 degrees! Or 27. My mom gives like five minute differences between times but I'm consistently born at 11:50 pm or 11:55 pm. Sun directly on the IC. IP: Logged |
violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1438 From: a thousand years of solitude Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 02, 2013 10:42 PM
^ah i see, Leo rising and Sun on IC! i failed to see your "from the Sun" loll fiiine suit yourself! :P IP: Logged |
violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1438 From: a thousand years of solitude Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 02, 2013 10:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by moonlightx: What happens when your Earth sign is the Ascendant such as is the case with me? My ascendant is Cancer, opposite from my Capricorn sun.
maybe it suggests you are more grounded? Idk just taking a guess. How do you feel about it? IP: Logged |
moonlightx Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted February 03, 2013 10:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by violet7887: maybe it suggests you are more grounded? Idk just taking a guess. How do you feel about it?
I am pretty grounded, but that may be because I have a lot of Capricorn energy in my chart. I've always felt that the ascendant is important. I definitely feel my Cancer ascendant. I'm not sure I'd call it energy, just a part of my personality.
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