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Ami Anne
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posted February 02, 2013 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, a lot!

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posted February 02, 2013 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i dont know if you re looking for anything specific
but, folks with heavy pluto/scorpio seem to be open to bdsm-like scenarios....

the secretary...
anybody seen that movie?
totally scorpio/pluto

i would say....pluto-mars, pluto-venus....8th house, scorpio/pluto...

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posted February 02, 2013 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sadism, probably Saturn/Pluto/Mars. Maybe Uranus? Neptune would be the masochist.. I think.

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posted February 02, 2013 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 02, 2013 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Doux. I was thinking about Jupiter oppose Uranus as being part of sadism. What do you think?

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posted February 02, 2013 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would suspect mars-saturn opposition or square ; physical(mars) pain(saturn)

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posted February 02, 2013 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeathIsanIllusion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars and Saturn or Pluto aspects in the 12th or 8th. Fixed signs. Angular Uranus. Venus. Neptune for the catalyst which sends the ones engaged in the acts to a whole different plane of existence only accesible during these types of manifestations that not everyone does-Uranus. Pluto has sadism as one of his many keywords. Venus has to be in the mix because it is the source of endorphines. Mars is the powerful force which is used to break the established boundaries-Saturn between the triggers that now make pleasure-Venus equal to pain.

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posted February 02, 2013 08:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dominant Scorpio combined with Strong Piscean influence.

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posted February 02, 2013 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeathIsanIllusion:
Mars and Saturn or Pluto aspects in the 12th or 8th. Fixed signs. Angular Uranus. Venus. Neptune for the catalyst which sends the ones engaged in the acts to a whole different plane of existence only accesible during these types of manifestations that not everyone does-Uranus. Pluto has sadism as one of his many keywords. Venus has to be in the mix because it is the source of endorphines. Mars is the powerful force which is used to break the established boundaries-Saturn between the triggers that now make pleasure-Venus equal to pain.



well damn, this is very accurate. but when you say angular uranus, how does lets say uranus conjunct MC have anything to do with being a sadist?

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posted February 02, 2013 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Pisces Adonis:
Dominant Scorpio combined with Strong Piscean influence.

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I would think there would be something else, as Pisces is gentle, no

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posted February 02, 2013 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not really..
Pisces can be extreme, because neptune is extreme.
Most drug addicts i know are pisces or have some pisces placements.
I pisces can be a lot more darker than scorpios. Yes scorpios have that intensity but they have power too, while pisces usually are melancholy.
A lot of times they want to be dominated in a relationship almost to the extreme, I think thats when fetishes play out.
I think pisces natives influenced by jupiter are gentle and positive.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:

I would think there would be something else, as Pisces is gentle, no



quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
Not really..
Pisces can be extreme, because neptune is extreme.
Most drug addicts i know are pisces or have some pisces placements.
I pisces can be a lot more darker than scorpios. Yes scorpios have that intensity but they have power too, while pisces usually are melancholy.
A lot of times they want to be dominated in a relationship almost to the extreme, I think thats when fetishes play out.
I think pisces natives influenced by jupiter are gentle and positive.

I'm a Scorpio Riser with Pluto in Scorpio conjunct Asc in First House and I am also a Scorpio-Aquarius Dominant.

I can SAYYY Pisces placements can lead to sadism when combined with disturbing Scorpio placements-especially if said Pisces becomes escapist and enters a Fantasy World-Scorpio's aggression combined with Pisces delusional rose-colored view of the world CAAAAAAN lead to extreme negativity which in turns leads to violence.

I'd also like to add a Fire Moon-especially one with lots of negative aspects-which I have (Leo Moon that Quincunx Pisces Sun, Opposite Aquarius Mars and Pisces Venus and square Scorpio Pluto and semisquare Mercury) can leaadd to a sadistice nature esp. when also combined with a powerful Scorpio placement (Ascendant in my case).

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posted February 02, 2013 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You sound very interesting

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posted February 02, 2013 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vickymadness:
I would suspect mars-saturn opposition or square ; physical(mars) pain(saturn)


Interesting. I have one chart in mind. I will need to check it out more and come back

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posted February 02, 2013 09:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You sound very interesting


Trust me I was a NASSSTTTYYY person (and when I read my Scorpio Rising description I immediately identified with Scorpio).

I don't want to share it with anyone except for a few who gained my trust.. Maybe if I get to trust you more I would share with you if it weren't for the fact the site lacks a ******* PM system. I'd love to give email but I'm paranoid about posting it here out of fear of being stalked.

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posted February 02, 2013 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL
Well, you got me curious. I have a Gem Sun, merc and Venus and we are curious types

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posted February 02, 2013 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Marquis De Sade ( sadism was named on him) has Venus/Saturn conjunction in Cancer squared by Mars in Aries.

He was a Gemini Sun with a Virgo Moon. Sun was in his 8th house. A Scorpio Rising with Pluto conjuncting it at 3 degree from the 12th.

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posted February 02, 2013 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
Marquis De Sade ( sadism was named on him) has Venus/Saturn conjunction in Cancer squared by Mars in Aries.

He was a Gemini Sun with a Virgo Moon. Sun was in his 8th house. A Scorpio Rising with Pluto conjuncting it at 3 degree from the 12th.

Interesting. I wonder where Nessus would be in all this.

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posted February 02, 2013 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Pisces Adonis:

I'm a Scorpio Riser with Pluto in Scorpio conjunct Asc in First House and I am also a Scorpio-Aquarius Dominant.

I can SAYYY Pisces placements can lead to sadism when combined with disturbing Scorpio placements-especially if said Pisces becomes escapist and enters a Fantasy World-Scorpio's aggression combined with Pisces delusional rose-colored view of the world CAAAAAAN lead to extreme negativity which in turns leads to violence.

I'd also like to add a Fire Moon-especially one with lots of negative aspects-which I have (Leo Moon that Quincunx Pisces Sun, Opposite Aquarius Mars and Pisces Venus and square Scorpio Pluto and semisquare Mercury) can leaadd to a sadistice nature esp. when also combined with a powerful Scorpio placement (Ascendant in my case).


I disagree...

Pisces sun, Neptune in the 12th, Scorpio asc...

When I am ****** and really ****** my mermaid tail turns into a stinging Scorpio one, it is never, ever to hurt physcially, but boy, when pushed can I sting...and I have..

The Pisces shadow has been well known for weilding power when one gets crazy. Lis Greene put it wonderfully and I will not quote cause I dont remember exactly, but she said the Pisces woman scorned turns into a witch (a very evil one....)

Now, having said all that, I have a huge Aqua influence which will lend me to more of the mind game thing (Mercury involved in 3 crazy Aqua influenced T sqares....)

But the inhearnt nature of Pisces/Scorpio, I dont think, would ever harm, physically...

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posted February 02, 2013 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont agree with pisces/scorp combo leading to sadism.Scorpio rising gives you ability to hate people,makes you vindictive but they are all associated with emotions.I think it usually involves the ability to disassociate from emotions as well as extreme emotions.Mars/nessus,moon/nessus,mars/saturn,moon/uranus(for the detachment),moon/neptune(for the illusion while acting on it),mars/pluto and mars/neptune may indicate sadism.

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posted February 02, 2013 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Baizzatbari     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio is said to be sadistic. But I think it has more to do with Scorpio Sun and afflicted Mars and/or Pluto.
Also Taurean hidden anger can turn into sadism with enough planets in Aries or Scorpio.

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posted February 03, 2013 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sharon_1977     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi All

I don't think pieces nor Scorpio are sadistic, Pieces/Neptune probably would be more masochistic and Scorpio would be more vengeful for being ****** off at someone. I have heard and read (I forget the person/site where i read/heard it from) that Capricorn/10th planets in negative aspect to Mars and/or Saturn (even more so if Mars and Saturn are in a negative aspect to each other also) can cause Sadists.

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posted February 03, 2013 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus sq Nessus or Moon and Nessus in the same sign possibly for men.

Moon-pluto hard aspects

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posted February 03, 2013 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for watermonkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
Marquis De Sade ( sadism was named on him) has Venus/Saturn conjunction in Cancer squared by Mars in Aries.

He was a Gemini Sun with a Virgo Moon. Sun was in his 8th house. A Scorpio Rising with Pluto conjuncting it at 3 degree from the 12th.

Interesting, i always knew he was born on the same day as me and also same chinese zodiac too both water monkeys, well my take will be on neptune.

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Originally posted by ail221:
Venus sq Nessus or Moon and Nessus in the same sign possibly for men.

Moon-pluto hard aspects


I might have all those.

Nessus and moon in Leo. It might square my venus in taurus. Moon square pluto.

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