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Pisces Adonis
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posted February 02, 2013 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pisces Adonis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've finished Gone With the Wind last week and been wanting to make this thread for days but haven't had the time.

In Sun Signs, Goodman Scarlet O'Hara is the epitome of the Aries Woman.

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Originally posted by Linda Goodman P.22-23:

Scarlett O'Hara is the very epitome of the Mars-ruled Aries female.

Like Scarlett, the Aries girl will gather every available male for a hundred miles around to her feet, while her willful heart yearns for the one man she can't have for one reason or another. Like Scarlett, the Mars woman can quickly adapt for survival if necessary, without whimpering. Both the O'Hara and the Aries characters are tough enough to defy convention, face an advancing army, or even shoot a man through the head with icy calmness, if he threatens her loved ones.

Never was Scarlett more Mars-like than when she was starving, alone and friendless, and without waiting for a man to come to the rescue, she clenched her fist toward heaven and shouted, "I'll survive this . . . and when I do, I'll never be hungry again ... If I have to lie, cheat, steal i or kill-as God is my witness, I'll never be hungry again!" Much later, her emotions shattered, her beloved child dead and the one man she
loved about to walk out of her life, this typical Aries woman was still able to say, "I'll think of some way to get him back. There's never been a man I couldn't get, once I set my mind on him. . . . After all, tomorrow is another day."

Yes, Scarlett O'Hara creates a vivid image of the first Sun sign of the zodiac, with all the Mars strength and ability to bounce back after tragedy; able to play the female role to the hilt, with fluttering lashes and a well-timed tear, but just as able to take over a man's job when the men aren't around. A careful study of Scarlett's character can give you an excellent understanding of what you're in for with an Aries woman-and naturally, also the rewards you can look forward to after you've been brave enough to claim her. Her aggressive drive may be hard to take, but her shining optimism and faith in tomorrow can be mighty uplifting.


As much as I owe it to Goodman for getting me back into Gone With the Wind after reading her book (I was a Windie 8 years ago though I never managed to finish the book until now and have forgotten about it until reading Sun Signs), I honestly beg to disagree.

I honestly think that Scarlet is a Scorpio with a Moon in Aries in the book.

Undoubtedly an Aries Sun in the movie, but in the book she controls herself waaaaaayyyy tooo much (esp. when trying to get what she wants) to be an Aries.

She’s alsssooooo toooo ridiculous self-centered to be the stereotypical Aries Sun.

I’m also easily adding Pisces Rising. Seriously she’s in succch a fantasy wooorrrllld to the point of sheer absurdity and only someone with a powerful Pisces placement could be in that. She’s described in the book as fair skinned and having small feet and her eyes are described enough times as beautiful or similar adjectives for me to have no doubt to say Scarlet matches the Pisces Rising physical description spot on.

In addition her ability to charm men so easily is sssooooo Pisces Rising and her personality intrigues men, another Pisces Rising trait.


In the movie adaptation, I have no doubt Goodman would be correct in stating she's an Aries. She's much more impulsive in the movie than in the book and she's even muuuuccch more mischievous in the movie adaptation and more open about her thoughts than she is in the book.I’m leaning toward Scorpio Moon as her self-centeredness is only truly seen by the other characters given major roles such as India Wilkes and Rhett Butler in the movie;where as in the book she gets ostracized and hated in all of Atlanta for her wicked nature. But I’m sticking with Pisces Rising for the same reasons as in the book.

What do you think?

It doesn't help the author of Gone With the Wind, Margaret Mitchell, was a Scorpio and her life was pretty much the dramatic one that the stereotypical Scorpio/Scorpio Dominant girl lives through.

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Lily
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posted February 03, 2013 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see more Scorpio or Pluto than Aries.

Since the author is a Scorpio it makes sense that the character is more Scorpio, especially since its actually based on MM's life.

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posted February 04, 2013 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have known quite a few Aries sun women who
act like and some even look a bit like Scarlett.
So I think of Scarlett as an Aries.
However the actress who played her is
Vivien Leigh,
born November 5th. 1913
A Scorpio.

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posted February 04, 2013 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Linda wrote it beautifully...it's true.

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posted February 04, 2013 05:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never read the book, but I've seen the the film so keep in mind my perception is influenced by that. Scarlett for sure was a Fire sign girl from what I've seen in film. Bold, hot-tempered, melodramatic, passionate, and proud. She's also scheming and cunning like a Scorpio.

I saw her as an Aries with Leo rising, and Moon in Scorpio. I could see the a strong Neptune in her chart also, since she was somewhat delusional about Ashley. Perhaps she had a Neptune/Venus conjunction, or she has Venus in Pisces. Interestingly, from the movie I thought there was a hint of Gemini to her as well. In the beginning of the film she was made out to be a social butterfly who flirted with all the guys, and they adored her because she was pretty. She had a sharp tongue as well. I thought Mars in Gemini ruling an Aries Sun and Mercury would be fitting for her.

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posted February 04, 2013 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anno_lucis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Like Scarlett, the Aries girl will gather every available male for a hundred miles around to her feet, while her willful heart yearns for the one man she can't have for one reason or another"

lolz

"She’s alsssooooo toooo ridiculous self-centered to be the stereotypical Aries Sun."

mmm u sure?

haven't seen it, but that's a look that'll cook ya steak, if ever there was one

she looks scorp.

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posted February 06, 2013 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pisces Adonis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anno_lucis:
"Like Scarlett, the Aries girl will gather every available male for a hundred miles around to her feet, while her willful heart yearns for the one man she can't have for one reason or another"

lolz

"She’s alsssooooo toooo ridiculous self-centered to be the stereotypical Aries Sun."

mmm u sure?

haven't seen it, but that's a look that'll cook ya steak, if ever there was one

she looks scorp.


Hehehehehe Vivien Leigh was a Scorpio and she was spot on as Scarlett though perhaps a bit too beautiful-Scarlett is described as "not beautiful in the conventional sense" lol.

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
I never read the book, but I've seen the the film so keep in mind my perception is influenced by that. Scarlett for sure was a Fire sign girl from what I've seen in film. Bold, hot-tempered, melodramatic, passionate, and proud. She's also scheming and cunning like a Scorpio.

I saw her as an Aries with Leo rising, and Moon in Scorpio. I could see the a strong Neptune in her chart also, since she was somewhat delusional about Ashley. Perhaps she had a Neptune/Venus conjunction, or she has Venus in Pisces. Interestingly, from the movie I thought there was a hint of Gemini to her as well. In the beginning of the film she was made out to be a social butterfly who flirted with all the guys, and they adored her because she was pretty. She had a sharp tongue as well. I thought Mars in Gemini ruling an Aries Sun and Mercury would be fitting for her.


Haven't done the planets yet but now that you mentioned it Scarlett probably does have a Leo Rising in the movie with how showy she dressed and because after hearing some gossip back at the Barbeque in Twelve Oaks, she shed a fear tears as she was hurt by what the other girls said.

Yeah I'm switing to Leo Rising for Movie Scarlett.Though I'm still sticking Pisces Rising for book Scarlett-as opposed to the movie, she showed surprising bouts of kindness out of nowhere despite being an Evil ***** throughout much of the story. It seemed in the book as though she had a Quincunx between Sun and Moon-I totally identify with her as I have Pisces Sun Quincunx Leo Moon and I know what a pain this Hard Aspect is. To add Scorpio and Aries are signs that Quincunx each other you know .

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