posted February 04, 2013 07:09 PM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
From what I've observed, Capricorns want to be able to control themselves and their surroundings as it relates to them. Power gives individuality and the ability to do what you want to do, and that's what Capricorn wants.

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very well put and accurate!

posted February 04, 2013 07:19 PM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
From what I've observed, Capricorns want to be able to control themselves and their surroundings as it relates to them. Power gives individuality and the ability to do what you want to do, and that's what Capricorn wants.

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sweetie your good ^^

I don't give two shakes and a nod for power or money, I want control, self-control... I want to control everything in my environment~
not over others per se... but, yes... admittedly, I've tried to "better"/"learn" someone the right way to do something (as my Aqua Nanna always said).... lol

The Capricorn function is for control, perseverance, and success...

posted February 04, 2013 09:16 PM            

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SaturnineMoth: sweetie your good ^^

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posted February 04, 2013 09:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Money IS power. Whacha talkin' bout B?

- Cap Moon & Mars

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Hahah, yeah, kind of true, but not always... I'd rather have a job with a high social position that doesn't pay really well than working somewhere that doesn't get recognition and the salary is high.

posted February 04, 2013 11:42 PM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
From what I've observed, Capricorns want to be able to control themselves and their surroundings as it relates to them. Power gives individuality and the ability to do what you want to do, and that's what Capricorn wants.

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I think you've summed it up quite well

posted February 04, 2013 11:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
I think you've summed it up quite well

I want to be in total control of myself all the time.I want to be able to function on my own terms, therefore money is a must. I don't talk for all capricorns, but more often than not, capricorns have had tough childhoods, had to face financial constraints when they were younger. There's one thing that a capricorn doesn't forget it's HOW it felt being weak and we don't want to feel weak. As far as I am concerned I do not want power as much as I want financial independence.

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posted February 05, 2013 07:50 AM            

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Originally posted by sharpei:
to me taurus wants money and posessions, scorpio wants power and capricorns want security and status which are somewhat different things, power is a by product of security but it is not, i feel, the aim of a capricorn i think total control and power is more what scorpios want because they need that to experience the emotional intensity they feel and to feel secure to express that emotional intensity whereas for capricorns they fear more than anything destitution and their life is a constant hunt for survival so wasting emotional energy on controlling people and trying to get power over them or the situation deflects and can even work against having security and status.

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I think you might be one to something. I like security first and foremost. Being safe and putting food on the table. Next is respect and recognition. Power is merely a side effect of respect, and while it has it's uses, I don't get off on influencing people or anything.

Attaining self-control and self-mastery in some area of expertise is what Caps really are about. Once we've found our 'calling' we're 100% dedicated to our mission whatever that might be. We want to be the best our field, and to feel we can be proud of our accomplishments. Caps have a lot of integrity in this way. For a lot Caps their 'calling' is their career. But there are some who find their 'calling' toward excellence in other areas. Perhaps in simply being a mother and running a household to the best of their ability. Or in some type of sport or hobby that has a competitive element. We are ambitious to do well, but not power mad. Desiring the power of influence over people and situations is more of a Scorpio thing. Caps can take it or leave it depending on what we need to achieve our goals, and insure our security. Caps key phase is 'I USE'. We might take advantage of power if it suits us, but when it comes to power for it's own sake, Caps are rather detached about the whole thing. We don't care about it if it's not necessary to get us to where we want to be.

Scorpio's key phrase is 'I DESIRE'. They can develop very strong ideas of how they want things to be, and they strive to bring these scenarios into reality. This is especially so when it comes to relationships, and the ability to influence how these relationships will unfold. Access to resources is also a Scorpio concern. They strongly value insight into others, and secret knowledge, so that they can subtly maneuver though any situation to their best advantage. Protecting the relationships they value most, and insuring that they and their loved ones have prime access to the best resources, is what Scorpio is all about. If this drive becomes overdeveloped, a Scorpio can become manipulative in a dark, mean sort of way. But Scorps can use their talent for influence for good as well. Protecting and looking out for loved ones who are more naive then themselves is one of these ways.

It's the same with Caps. They can use their drive toward excellence for good or ill. There are some Caps out there who are ruthless, cold hearted users. The kind you'd hope you'd never meet. And other Caps who are incredibly dedicated and loyal, sticking by loved ones in good times and bad.

A person with both Scorpio and Capricorn influences in their chart would have a bit of both of these drives within them.

posted February 05, 2013 08:07 AM            

yah i feel i do ''want'' from time to time power for its own sake but i find it often conflicts with my basic need for security so i try and leave it alone, i would say a stumbling block in the past was this - i have saturn in scorpio 6th house so i get i have some blockages that i need to deal with emotionally in order to get the security i crave- but i definitely crave security.

posted February 05, 2013 09:53 AM            

Scorpio's key phrase is 'I DESIRE'. They can develop very strong ideas of how they want things to be, and they strive to bring these scenarios into reality. This is especially so when it comes to relationships, and the ability to influence how these relationships will unfold. Access to resources is also a Scorpio concern. They strongly value insight into others, and secret knowledge, so that they can subtly maneuver though any situation to their best advantage. Protecting the relationships they value most, and insuring that they and their loved ones have prime access to the best resources, is what Scorpio is all about. If this drive becomes overdeveloped, a Scorpio can become manipulative in a dark, mean sort of way. But Scorps can use their talent for influence for good as well. Protecting and looking out for loved ones who are more naive then themselves is one of these ways.

posted February 05, 2013 10:06 AM            

In this way, Saturn creates a teacher/specialist in a subject or occupation. These people can be trusted to be very knowledgeable in the area concerned (especially when Mercury aspects Saturn). This is what Saturn is after; competence.

For once Saturn ruled person is competent and confident; they can climb that much higher and do that much more.

The “limitation” that has always held them back was not so much a “limitation” but a disclaimer; to take things slowly, chew slowly and be thorough because in the end that is what will count.

They may watch the Aries flash by, the Leo riding a horse way past them and Scorpio attain more and more and more....but their method of operation must lead to PERMANANCE not POWER or POPULARITY. That is what a Saturn ruled person hopes to achieve.

Saturn ruled person is marvelled at the terrain and not the thunder. For the latter is a flashing brilliance while the former is an ever fixed mark.

posted February 05, 2013 10:37 AM            

Most Capricorns that I've ever known are spiritual. So often we take our time and energy and try to convert it into spiritual gain, for ourselves and others.

posted February 05, 2013 10:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

They may watch the Aries flash by, the Leo riding a horse way past them and Scorpio attain more and more and more....but their method of operation must lead to PERMANANCE not POWER or POPULARITY. That is what a Saturn ruled person hopes to achieve.

Saturn ruled person is marvelled at the terrain and not the thunder. For the latter is a flashing brilliance while the former is an ever fixed mark.

I have
Saturn Trine Moon
Saturn sextile Mercury
Saturn conjunct Venus

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Well said! Yes, Caps hate to invest their time in things that they can't see the *lasting* purpose for.

posted February 05, 2013 11:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Saturn is the planet of limitation and consequently thoroughness; for if one is limited in breadth or reach, one becomes thorough and a specialist in what they have and can reach.

In this way, Saturn creates a teacher/specialist in a subject or occupation. These people can be trusted to be very knowledgeable in the area concerned (especially when Mercury aspects Saturn). This is what Saturn is after; competence.

For once Saturn ruled person is competent and confident; they can climb that much higher and do that much more.

The “limitation” that has always held them back was not so much a “limitation” but a disclaimer; to take things slowly, chew slowly and be thorough because in the end that is what will count.

They may watch the Aries flash by, the Leo riding a horse way past them and Scorpio attain more and more and more....but their method of operation must lead to PERMANANCE not POWER or POPULARITY. That is what a Saturn ruled person hopes to achieve.

Saturn ruled person is marvelled at the terrain and not the thunder. For the latter is a flashing brilliance while the former is an ever fixed mark.

I have
Saturn Trine Moon
Saturn sextile Mercury
Saturn conjunct Venus

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Agree. Capricorns look for stability, security,consistency,reliability and permanency in everything we invest ourselves into, whether financially or and emotionally.