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Pisces Adonis
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posted February 05, 2013 02:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I were to given only a moment to decide which of the 12 Zodiac is the most disciplined, the first thing that would come to mind is the Earth Signs.

I already decided Scorpio is easily the most disciplined of the Water Signs and were it not for the vengeful and emotional nature of the sign, Scorpio would easily be the most disciplined overall IMO.

But I am wondering which would win the Honor of being the "Most Disciplined" of the Air and Fire Signs.

So far I would have to put Sagittarrius as the most disciplined of the fire signs. Aries is too brash and impulsive to win the title and Leo,while having strong willpower a fixed sign, lets its ego dictates its decision into sheer nonesense and unwanton stupidity. Not to mention Leo is often the sign of extravagence and overspends on luxuries.

So Sagittarius, while easy-going, wins most disciplined mostly because of its scholarly nature and its strong adherence to a code of honor though they tend to have a hard time on physical discipline (losing weight especially) and can be tooooo lax at times.

For Air Signs, I've decided Aquarius.

Libra is toooooo easy going and lazy to fit the mold and while Gemini is incredible at multi-tasking and quite hard workers at reading stuff, its too fickle in their thoughts and mindset that its pretty inconsistent and often leaves task nfinished.

So I vote Aquarius for its fixed nature, strong willpower, and incredible determination (esp. when humanity's welfare is concerned). Of the air signs they are also the most emotionless-I would go as far as saying Aquarius is the most DISCIPLINED more so than the Earth Signs when it comes to not losing it to their emotions and keeping cool and logical.

Thats my take. I am judging on the Sign's alone, this is not counting specifics like Moon Sign, Ascendant, Aspects,etc...

I mean the traits associated with the signs.

Also I would like you rtake which Earth Sign is the most disciplined?They are alll sssooooo gooooodddammn so great in general self-discipline (and they each win in a specific discipline-Virgo in Health and Organization, Taurus in patienc enad physical discipline, and Capricorn in financial discipline and sterness).

But I give it to Capricorn in general discipline.

I'd still prefer being a Scorpio/Scorpio Riser/Scorpio Dominant because of the turbulent emotions and passions we have (no matter how counterproductive they can be)-I just looooovvveee Scorpio passion and Water Emotions!!!!

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Kerosene
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posted February 05, 2013 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with these but I have to say Aries is a lot more disciplined.
Sagittarius is too mutable

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posted February 05, 2013 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd say sag is the least disciplined. We are mutable (as mentioned above), irresponsible, very selfish, and incredibly restless. We are known for not following through on things, and leaving projects incomplete. Anything that makes us feel stifled or restricted makes us run away. We are very flaky and non-committal, too.

I vote Leo. Fixed energy. Big ego, yes, but that pushes them to work hard to achieve greatness.

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posted February 05, 2013 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ime...
Earth-Capricorn
Air- Libra or aqua
Fire -Leo. Aries when there's earth influence

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posted February 05, 2013 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Earth + Fixed

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posted February 05, 2013 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG Sagittarius disciplined....

O_O

OH.EM.GEE

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posted February 05, 2013 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 11nahyt:
Ime...
Earth-Capricorn
Air- Libra or aqua
Fire -Leo. Aries when there's earth influence

Thank you, yes Libra is a Cardinal sign, and with the right placements can be disciplined. So sick of the lazy Libra stereotype crap.

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posted February 05, 2013 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^
I'm gemini with stellium I actually am very disciplined and focused.. It depends on your chart.
Op was going off the text book traits.
No need to get offended haha

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posted February 05, 2013 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^In that case, I think fire combined with earth is very disciplined, like example Aries Sun with an Virgo Moon. Or vice versa, Capricorn placements IMO would also give a strong disciplined nature. And of course air with fire or earth placements.

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posted February 05, 2013 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, and air and earth too!
The flexibility of air and the stead fast pursuit of earth.
I think if saturn positively aspecting any luminaries and the 4 angles makes someone very disciplined

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posted February 05, 2013 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leo is the most disciplined, from those I know. Sadgies and Aries are when sufficiently motivated - again, going by those that I know. I used to have discipline, but it's scarce these days.

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posted February 05, 2013 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe female leos, I've never met a lot of female leos, but most of the male leos I've known are lazy. They only work when its necessary.
In my experience they waste their energy on frivolous things . Like their reputation.
Also when they work hard they make such a big deal like everyone else isn't working as hard as them..
Aries are usually motivated on things that matter, like career school, no nonsense with them

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posted February 06, 2013 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leos are consistent. Of the fire signs, I'd say Leo (also since when is Sagittarius scholarly? That's new, ).
I can't even judge air signs, but I would choose Gemini - they get stuff done.

Now! Generally speaking, it's kinda hard to fit 'discipline' in with fire and air signs just as it's kinda hard to fit 'go getter' in with earth and water signs.

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posted February 06, 2013 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sharpei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yah leos are consistent i agree- ive known quite a few leos and they are generally consistent- they are not jobsworth types who will follow rules and do work that isnt really required just to play it safe like say a virgo would but when they need to work hard they are quite disciplined- it is afterall a fixed sign.

air - i would say libra- i see aquarius as easily distracted and too likely to take a fancy to something else- libra when they believe in something will work quietly and diligently. i see aquarius as being quite an inconsistent sign despite it being fixed.

water- well scorpio obviously!

earth- hmm they are all pretty disciplined- i think actually taurus is the most consistently disciplined, as in they will just plod along patiently and without letting emotions get in the way- capricorn is a complicated sign, they have lots of obstacles and often the biggest obstacle is themselves so if they let their emotions get in the way or their ego dominate they could come unstuck- HOWEVER i would say that when capricorn has decided on a path then they will stick to it more religiously and unlike taurus can withstand hardship much better so if you mean discipline in terms of being able to withstand like rediculously long hours, a ****** boss, horrible colleagues etc then i would say capricorn but if you mean a sign that can just get on with work without being distracted and will do what is necessary even if they dont particularly believe in what they are doing then taurus- ive known quite a few taurus who whilst diligent will take the easy way out if things get too tiring or they dont like something.

OF COURSE this is all generalisations and it depends on the person yadda yadda yadda.

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posted February 06, 2013 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Baizzatbari     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well when Leos or Aquarians decide on something they become the most focussed of their respective elements practically. Also Aquarians are disciplined in emotional matters and libido. Leos dont clown around like sagis nor do they feel the travel itch plus they make stable marriage partners.
Also virgos I find to be the most disciplined and practical of earth signs. This is because their sign rules work, routine, health and their true ruler vulcan is the only one with a job in greek/roman mythology. Emotionally the virgo is said to be acc. To linda in love signs the most emotional from inside. I dont know about other signs but my feelings are pretty intense sometimes crude, coarse and earthy from inside. Therefore the virgo is not very disciplined from inside but self control is usually so high that they appear as robots from outside.
Just to be clear we're talking about sun sign's effect alone and other planets' effect can't be ignored. But the sun rules our character so........................

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posted February 06, 2013 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sharpei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ehh most virgos ive known are genuinely not very emotional- doesnt mean they are cold just most i have met (and im a pretty good judge of character) have not had much by way or intensity, i would definitely say the water signs are the most emotional, virgos are good at workingthrough their emotions logically.

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posted February 06, 2013 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
(also since when is Sagittarius scholarly? That's new, ).

Lol Since when are we not?

"This means individuals under the sun sign and with respect to read a profile about Sagittarius are considered the scholars of the twelve Zodiacal signs" http://bignutshell.com/read-a-profile-about-sagittarius/

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Sagittarius is a fire sign and is regarded as tactless, exaggerative, quarrelsome, dictatorial..... scholarly, enthusiastic." http://www.famouswhy.com/Zodiac_Page/Sagittarius.html

"The Sagittarius man is typically a natural scholar, and loves both to learn and to teach, making conversations highly stimulating..." www.compatible-astrology.com/sagittarius-man.html

"Sagittarius at its best: Philosophical, adventurous, freedom-loving, scholarly.." http://books.google.ca/books?id=DOfnC5vAff4C&pg=PA56&lpg=PA56&dq=sagittarius+scholarly&source=bl&ots=FkmqnO4Mrw&sig=GGirX5lWe8RaIkkDdmqfhlZncNc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=OX8SUbvZGrS02AX36YHYCQ &ved=0CFEQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=sagittarius%20scholarly&f=false

"The Jupiter-ruled Sagittarius could be stubborn and scholarly." http://www.google.ca/search?q=sagittarius+scholarly&oq=sagittarius+scholarly&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

"There are two types of Sagittarius. One is the philosophical, scholarly type who's concerned with learning and gaining wisdom." www.joycelevine.com/Sagittarius.htm

Sag rules the 9th house of higher education, after all.

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posted February 06, 2013 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^All the Sagittarius people I know are hardly scholarly. If anything, it seems a bit more Virgo-y, or even Capricorn. I dunno man, I don't see it.

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posted February 06, 2013 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sharpei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
itend to think of sags as scholarly- not for the exam results or out of duty like virgo or capricorn but out of a need to better understand the world- laws are ruled by sagitarius, courtrooms, religion etc so it makes sense they would wish to broaden their horizens through study, plus sags can be social climbers they blaze through society like a fiery arrow rather than slowly plodding up the career ladder like caps do so being well educated can only help that.

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posted February 06, 2013 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
discipline is a fixed sign quality
(because it take follow through)

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posted February 06, 2013 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
^All the Sagittarius people I know are hardly scholarly. If anything, it seems a bit more Virgo-y, or even Capricorn. I dunno man, I don't see it.

Lol Oh really? I've noticed the opposite in my life..

My Mom is a Sag Sun/Moon, and she has 4 university degrees, and is currently working on her PhD. My Sister is a Sag Sun/Mercury, and she is a doctor. Spent a loooong time in school. My bestie is a Sag, and is in law school.

I notice the female Sags I know are more scholarly than the Sag men I know! lol But anyway, there is definitely a strong link between Sag and higher education.

I think Virgos and Cappy people are definitely hard-working and ambitious.. A lot of my sister's doctor friends are Virgo, or have 6th house activity. Cappy is great in business, and is super ambitious.

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posted February 13, 2013 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TaurusInParticles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read somewhere that as the zodiac progresses the signs become more mature. I like to look at the first four signs, Aries, Taurus, Gemini, and Cancer, as the elemental children. The themes associated with these signs are themes any individual learn about during childhood i.e. the possessive trait of Taurus or the neediness of Cancer. The next four, Leo, Virgo, Libra, and Scorpio are the elemental adults. They express the ideas and themes of the elemental children with more awareness and grace; the theme of relationships also seems to be more important to these signs. Lastly are the elemental elders, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, and Pisces. These signs are more altruistic IMO; They seem to deal more with the big picture and less with the mundane. The fire signs exhibit this idea clearly: Aries is a brilliant spark, Leo is a fire that warms those around it, and Sagittarius is a blazing torch that gives light to everyone. Having said all that, maturity and discipline aren't black and white. Each element and every sign bring to the table a certain kind maturity and discipline that can't be found anywhere else in the zodiac

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posted February 13, 2013 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ My sister has moon uranus mars in sag conjunction with midheaven. She has no degrees but she has a lot of life experience which in my opinion is worth so much more than a college degree

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posted February 13, 2013 04:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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