posted February 05, 2013 06:36 PM            

saturn in scorpio 28
trine sun in aries 1

'The energy of the planets is in sync for the aspect but the expression of the planets conflicts with the aspect.'
http://astrofix.net/2011/01/16/out-of-sign-aspects/#ixzz2Jya3DAZY

can anyone help me interpret?

posted February 05, 2013 06:53 PM            

My Sun is in Leo at 0 degrees and my Moon is in Aries, 29 degrees and they have a square aspect. An astrologer once told me that because Aries and Leo are traditionally in trine aspect regardless of numbers, the square effect is weakened and despite the tight square, the Sun square Moon energy isn't as powerful or at least isn't much of a problem because both Sun and Moon are in complimentary fire signs. I don't know how true it is though because I do feel like my Sun and Moon are somehow at odds, I feel the square...

posted February 06, 2013 08:04 AM            

i think you have a point aswell, about the mars rulership. the only problem for me, is that mars is in a bit of a squeeze of it's own. opposite pluto and square to jupiter. making it more difficult for me to single out mars' energy. i do feel it, i know it. but i only know it, in the context of that t square. so i will be thinking on that. since sun and moon are conjunct aswell, moon trines saturn too and rules my 10th (cancer), i think this is all interlinked somehow.

and since mars is in taurus, opposing scorpio...it may give a clue. my mars wants to do stuff, down to earth stuff, to work and earn etc. it needs this, to stay grounded. saturn in scorpio, i'm guessing, has some connotations with emotional responsibility. and then there is the sun. in child like aries. i am seeing it now. it wants to evade responsibility. because it wants to do what it wants, when it wants, fundamentally.

if my sun were in late pisces, trining saturn in scorpio, it would feel more like a natural expression of emotional responsibility, stability. there would be no conflict.

but since the sun is out of sign, there is a bit of antagonism. so maybe with the trine, at a basic level, ego expression is quite literally 'watered down' to some degree by saturn. and similarly, firey independence of the sun might make for some difficulties surrounding feelings (resentment?) of/with authority...?

this would make sense.
i think i'm getting it.

but with both these planets are answering to mars, would sun 'win out' over saturn in scorpio, even though saturn answers also to pluto, who resides in the same house?

you can see my struggle here lol.

the funny thing is since i started studying astrology i have picked up on the feel of each planet. i know how saturn in scorpio 'feels' to me. what's much harder to pin down is sun in aries, perhaps because my sun and moon are conjunct, and function together. or it could be the mars thing. but i like being able to single out the energy, as it makes for easier interpretation of the aspects. but i think the outers have been much easier for me to feel out thus far.

posted February 07, 2013 09:36 AM            

i realised trying to get a feel for the planets as they were 28 years ago is prolly where i'm getting confused too. since they have moved via progression. so i looked at my progressed chart and there you have it:

mars opposite saturn
pluto opposite sun

that would explain the feeling of one step forward, 3 steps back right now. and maybe the over identification with pluto/scorpio

posted February 07, 2013 12:36 PM            

Out of sign or not,when there is an aspect by orbs,it is an aspect since it is affected by a transiting planet; it hits both natal planets. So,numbers matter.