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posted February 07, 2013 04:54 PM            

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Saturn has always been my favorite planet when I was little, mainly because its so beautiful.
Ironically saturn is my saving grace in my own chart, it keeps me grounded and focused when I want to float away.
I feel bad for saturn, it gets a bad wrap,

How is your saturn aspected?
**Also share your saturn return experiences!**

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posted February 07, 2013 05:11 PM            

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I like S-turn too and it's like no one else does!!! I like to imagine my S-turn is like, a knight in shining black armour servient to my Venus as the two are in a supah tight trine (only major aspect).

S-turn is in Pisces/7H, Taurus-Gemini duad, mutual reception with Neptune in Capricorn.

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posted February 07, 2013 05:23 PM            

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I like S-turn too and it's like no one else does!!! I like to imagine my S-turn is like, a knight in shining black armour servient to my Venus as the two are in a supah tight trine (only major aspect).

S-turn is in Pisces/7H, Aries-Taurus duad, mutual reception with Neptune in Capricorn.

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Ugggh lucky I wish I had saturn trine venus!
I love you censor saturn... Hush only love for saturn now!
My ex has venus conjunct saturn and hes the most amazing artist. I can never be as skilled as him..
Saturn trines my sun moon mercury! if venus was a few degrees closer it would be a trine...

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posted February 07, 2013 05:44 PM            

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Saturn return happens when you're around 29-30, its when Saturn makes its way back around the zodiac to make a conjunction to your natal Saturn.

I also love Saturn! Im definitely intrigued by it, its uniqueness and its rings of billion moons. Billion moons, hmm.. since the moon is our past... No wonder he is the lord of Karma.

Anyway,my Saturn is in Cap, conjunct 7th house ruler Uranus 2*, both conjunct the Aries point. Exactly opposite my Cancer moon, exactly trine my Mercury, trine sun 1* and Square my POF 2*. Dispositor of Neptune and Uranus.

I don't like him opposite my moon, but in a way I appreciate that he keeps me grounded cuz I have a feeling I would be a huge brat otherwise lol

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posted February 07, 2013 05:52 PM            

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Capricorn Saturn in the 5th house

conjunct Sun
square Moon
semisextile Mercury
conjunct Venus
trine Mars
square Ceres
conjunct NN

Currently I have a love-hate relationship with Saturn but I think with time it will get smoother

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posted February 07, 2013 05:52 PM            

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YESSSSSSSS. you're right. I was looking at saturn wanning square.... Okay thank goodness. I was like doesn't saturn take many decades to return? haha

I know what you mean lavaflower. I was spoiled as hell when I was a child (sun/moon conjunct venus.)
Saturn trines sun/moon so I always try and prove how responsible I am to my parents.
I know its bad since I'm suppose to do things for myself..
You must be a very committed partner!

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posted February 07, 2013 05:59 PM            

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S-turn is transiting Scorpio and it just passed over my Venus and is now like creepin' right up on my Sun. Then it just has two more Scorpio planets to go...

So far hasn't been bad! I kinda wonder what it will do in my Fourth House...as it approaches my MC, I think I'm getting closer to actually moving out. It seems good. But it's in my Third House right now, and I definitely haven't been getting around much...only to like four of my friends!

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posted February 07, 2013 05:59 PM            

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Capricorn Saturn in the 5th house

conjunct Sun

Currently I have a love-hate relationship with Saturn but I think with time it will get smoother

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You're the queen of saturn!
My sister has moon square saturn, she seems happy on the outside, but I think she's really unhappy person..
Sorry If I'm bring up something personal!

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posted February 07, 2013 06:05 PM            

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Haha. Welcome to my kingdom.

I also have a Cap Sun, Uranus, Neptune and NN. I'm Saturn's b*tch

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It's ok. This aspect is difficult indeed.

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posted February 07, 2013 06:23 PM            

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Sand has saturn in the first house!!!!
Get in this thread!!11

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posted February 07, 2013 07:13 PM            

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YESSSSSSSS. you're right. I was looking at saturn wanning square.... Okay thank goodness. I was like doesn't saturn take many decades to return? haha

I know what you mean lavaflower. I was spoiled as hell when I was a child (sun/moon conjunct venus.)
Saturn trines sun/moon so I always try and prove how responsible I am to my parents.
I know its bad since I'm suppose to do things for myself..
You must be a very committed partner!

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I guess it depends how far you go to prove yourself but I think its natural and healthy to have that sort of a dynamic between parent/child, as long as they appreciate and encourage you. That in turn leads to healthy trust and respect both ways.

I take relationships very seriously, I put my all into them and I can stay committed to an ideal while working with reality. It takes a lot for me to feel a need to distance myself from a partner, but once that happens, no matter how much I love them, I can't ever go back.So its all relative

And you must be incredibly charismatic with that stellium on your ASC and Saturn supporting it!!

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posted February 07, 2013 07:40 PM            

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>.>; Saturn is awesome, but I'm already feeling waves of opposition energy... not so cool, eh. :/ gotta get through it though! ^^;

Saturn return... 14° Scorpio h3 (exact cnj Eros, Ishtar, Lova... several others) <3

natal opposition (wide) to moon in Taurus h9

ruling my Sun in the 5h <3 (Mercury in 4h)

trine Huya Okyhroe - Alexandrinus Isolde Blarney, sextile Cerberus, opposite Lust, Alma, Ute ~ (0°)
semisquare my stellium, Mercury, Neptune, Jupiter (4h Cap-Sag) (0-2°), semisextile SN/Venus (4h Sag) (0°) ~ inconjunct NN... Qd MC, bQ *Algenib/Erakis* Hagar Lameia Thia, *Bellatrix/Capella* Odin Akash Aletheia Aphrodite, Q *ElKophrah* Pandora (0-1°)

Always been a Saturn-lover, but can't wait till this return is over. ^^;

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posted February 07, 2013 09:09 PM            

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trine Huya Okyhroe - Alexandrinus Isolde Blarney, sextile Cerberus, opposite Lust, Alma, Ute ~ (0°)
semisquare my stellium, Mercury, Neptune, Jupiter (4h Cap-Sag) (0-2°), semisextile SN/Venus (4h Sag) (0°) ~ inconjunct NN... Qd MC, bQ *Algenib/Erakis* Hagar Lameia Thia, *Bellatrix/Capella* Odin Akash Aletheia Aphrodite, Q *ElKophrah* Pandora (0-1°)

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You must be into asteroids a lot.

Looks like we have similar charts.

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posted February 07, 2013 09:17 PM            

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Sand has saturn in the first house!!!!
Get in this thread!!11

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this is how i feel about h1 saturn. my saturn is pretty strong at least stronger than jupiter it seems. like when jupiter is in my 9th do i get to travel? naw i hafta do my saturn return lol!

If Saturn is on the ascendant, the first house cusp, or somewhere in that vicinity, this has been called the chart of an “Early Riser.” This suggests that during the first years of this life, Saturn will be in the Formative Sector, very inwardly directed, as it moves through houses one, two, and three. At around 7 or 8 years of age, it will arrive at the fourth-house cusp, which always marks a major turning point, upward in the chart. From this point forward, for the next 15 or so years, Saturn will be rising in the chart, as it moves through the houses 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9.In fact, from the time Saturn crosses the fourth-house cusp (I.C.), there will gradually be an ever-increasing sense of confidence that builds within the child, turning away from a more inward and formative time, toward a more outward and social experience. By the time Saturn reaches the 7th house cusp and moves into the upper houses, the child will be a teenager, coming into a more outward and aware time, socially, at quite an early age. This young person may very well be socially prominent, perhaps a class leader or the center of social attention. This is why this Saturn placement is called the “Early Riser.”This social momentum continues to rise until Saturn reaches the very top of chart, so around 21 years of age this person is flying high, having rising to some kind of fruition prominence early on. But we should also point out that as Saturn crests the top of the chart, this marks a turning point, the end of the rising part of the cycle and the beginning of a new cycle, as Saturn moves downward through the chart. Many early-riser types have to be counseled to let the past go, and not to attempt to drive forward, because things will not go on just as they have been – always rising.Instead, there will a turning away from what was, the past success, and, very gradually of course, learning to listen to a new, and more inner, message, a message that will grow stronger as Saturn moves downward in the chart, eventually leading to an entirely new cycle of personal investment, and eventual return.So it should not surprise us that at around 30 years of age, just as everyone else seems to be launched firmly in one direction or another, the early-riser types take a turn inward, going back to school so to speak, and gets busy building or investing, while others seem to be harvesting the results of their work. The result stage of the early rise is delayed until later in their 30s, when Saturn crosses the 4th house cusp once again, and begins to rise through the chart, bringing a new cycle of social prominence and the results of all the investment work.
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at 21 i thought i was the sh!t. :sand:

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>.>; Saturn is awesome, but I'm already feeling waves of opposition energy... not so cool, eh. :/ gotta get through it though! ^^;

Saturn return... 14° Scorpio h3 (exact cnj Eros, Ishtar, Lova... several others) <3

natal opposition (wide) to moon in Taurus h9

ruling my Sun in the 5h <3 (Mercury in 4h)

trine Huya Okyhroe - Alexandrinus Isolde Blarney, sextile Cerberus, opposite Lust, Alma, Ute ~ (0°)
semisquare my stellium, Mercury, Neptune, Jupiter (4h Cap-Sag) (0-2°), semisextile SN/Venus (4h Sag) (0°) ~ inconjunct NN... Qd MC, bQ *Algenib/Erakis* Hagar Lameia Thia, *Bellatrix/Capella* Odin Akash Aletheia Aphrodite, Q *ElKophrah* Pandora (0-1°)

Always been a Saturn-lover, but can't wait till this return is over. ^^;

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DEEETS NAOW!!!!! Is he smothering you?
just tell him you need your space.
I know in india people people pray to saturn by leaving some overing.
Its not crazy, they like leaving milk out, or dipping gold on hot milk. thats probably for another celestial body thou.
I totally love how they treat planets like gods, I like to they're conscious too.

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posted February 07, 2013 09:20 PM            

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I guess it depends how far you go to prove yourself but I think its natural and healthy to have that sort of a dynamic between parent/child, as long as they appreciate and encourage you. That in turn leads to healthy trust and respect both ways.

I take relationships very seriously, I put my all into them and I can stay committed to an ideal while working with reality. It takes a lot for me to feel a need to distance myself from a partner, but once that happens, no matter how much I love them, I can't ever go back.So its all relative

And you must be incredibly charismatic with that stellium on your ASC and Saturn supporting it!!

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I knew someone with saturn in the 7th house, 45 years of marriage.
Longest western marriage everrr.
I have saturn on the midheaven, I love stable people, they make me feel secure, obviously! I'm not as stable in relationships, maybe if I had saturn trine venus..

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posted February 07, 2013 09:23 PM            

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i'm still waiting to debut my blue steel onto the public. it's gonna take the whole return to work on it perhaps. i'm not going to call it blue stell though.. i have decided just now i'm gonna call it... anonymidarkness!

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i'm still waiting to debut my blue steel onto the public. it's gonna take the whole return to work on it perhaps. i'm not going to call it blue stell though.. i have decided just now i'm gonna call it... anonymidarkness!

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Omg I'm totally hanzel...
Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

zoolander would be a scorp asc and hazel would be a gemini asc or sag, but thats not the point..

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been reading these pages for forever. looking at actual spiritual growth.

Saturn in Scorpio Power-based Structure/Limitation
The placement of Saturn in Scorpio indicates that you have a need for structure and discipline that carries legitimacy, either through its basic integrity or because it is backed by power. The placement of Saturn in Scorpio is often useful, but may be problematic. Even when problematic, there is inherent opportunity to transform the functions symbolized by Saturn and manifest its energy positively. This is symbolized by the natural sextile existing between Scorpio and Saturn-ruled Capricorn. Much of the behavior and many of the personality characteristics associated with Saturn in Scorpio are a result of your need to integrate the concepts of structure and power.
Scorpio is the Fixed Water sign. The deep and constant emotional energy associated with Scorpio can symbolically direct and move the functions represented by Saturn so that these become a powerful force. This is particularly beneficial when you possess integrity and are motivated by truth. The strong, transformative energy associated with the placement of Saturn in Scorpio can also represent a powerful threat to Saturn’s function of preserving stability and the status quo. To prevent constant crisis and disruption in your life, the Saturnian framework must be purified and transformed or Saturn’s force must symbolically co-opt Scorpio’s power so that a stable set of rules and structure are enforced in your life.

Qualities on Positive-Negative Continuum:
Saturn’s placement in Scorpio suggests that there are certain personality characteristics and qualities with which you identify. Typical Saturn-Scorpio qualities are listed below, with positive qualities listed first and their more negative, or dysfunctional, counterparts listed afterward. These qualities are divided into three categories, corresponding to major Saturn-symbolized functions: lessons/obstacles/limitations, order/stability/rigidity and discipline/accomplishment.
Lessons/Obstacles: Life lessons faced by you in life are often those needed to enable you to learn to deal with power and intimacy; you may overcome obstacles through insight or the exercise of power; you may also transforms problems into opportunities by getting at their roots - You often find yourself blocked by power of others or thwarted by secrecy; you are vulnerable to betrayal; the misuse of power may be your undoing; your blockages tend
to be deep-seated
Order/Stability/Rigidity: Order is seen by you as demanding internal consistency; stability for you tends to be emotion-based; you have the ability to transform and regenerate rigid structures; you are likely to have an intuitive sense of order - Order is seen by you as function of power; you have a strong will to hold on to established structure; your stability is often threatened by crisis and the need for change
Discipline/Accomplishment: You have a strong-willed discipline which also tends to be internally-driven; you are able to manage in order to accomplish your goals – You may be an overbearing disciplinarian who relies on authority to enforce discipline and manipulates others in order to accomplish your goals

Transcendent Potential
Saturn actualizes the transcendent potential of Scorpio through focus and discipline. You have developed a strong will that is turned toward the quest for Truth and the essence of Being. When cosmic power becomes available, you recognize the limits inherent in your ego-nature and refrain from presuming the use of such power. Rather than seeking to control, you submit to the Divine Will of the Power within. In this way, you possess Real Power, which makes you strong and steels your discipline for spiritual quest.

Insecurity
When the insecurities inherent in Saturn in Scorpio are manifest, you are likely to feel threatened by a power that will overwhelm your ego. You are fixated on controlling all aspects of your life and environment. At the same time, you may inwardly doubt your ability to maintain control. This results in fear, paralysis, an overbearing nature and an inability to share or to enter a deep and balanced relationship. Ultimately, you are the victim of your own insecure ego, which traps you in its power grip.

Aspecting Influence
When Saturn in Scorpio aspects other planets, the Scorpio energy is transmitted through discipline and structure to affect the function symbolized by the aspected planet. Limits and obstacles are likely to be placed on the planetary function aspected. These are generally either transformative or power-based. The qualities associated with Saturn in Scorpio may be helpful or problematic, depending on the particular aspect involved.

Saturn in the First Your Sense of Limitation, Organization and
House Discipline Is Focused on Self-hood and
Self-Development
Saturn’s house placement typically signifies where you are most likely to experience difficulty and challenge. Thus, any house placement for Saturn denotes some degree of problematicalness. However, Saturn in the First House can be a particularly difficult placement. It is associated with the square between Capricorn (ruled by Saturn) and Aries (occupying the first house in the natural chart).
The Capricorn-Aries square is generally not as benign as the Capricorn-Libra square. It represents conflict between two forceful energies--one having the qualities of solidity, rigidity, defensive posture and established form; the other having the qualities of potential, spontaneity, assertive posture and becoming. The latter are the energies and qualities required for the establishment of self-identity (the First House function). Thus, the Saturn in the First House indicates that you may have initial difficulties forming your self-identity concept and insecurity about your self-identity.
Saturn generally indicates an absence of familiarity and generic experience with the function/life area that Saturn contacts. With Saturn in the First House, it is likely you will experience a lack of cultural/environmental support and "equipment" for the task of self-development and self-assertion. You are likely to feel a gap in your awareness of how to proceed to form your self-identity and, once it is formed, to project it. Hence, the insecurity you feel about your self-identity.
You may also experience feeling that your selfhood is oppressed or inhibited by external forces. You may feel resistance when you try to assert your identity. The difficulties you meet when you try to assert your individuality may be perceived—a function of your own insecurity--or "real"—a manifestation of the subconscious Will arranging the circumstances of your life to force you to address your insecurities.
For the resistance offered by Saturn is purposeful, designed to challenge you to focus on the development of your self-identity. This identity will only be formed into shape and strengthened by struggle. It is through struggle that you will confront your weaknesses and insecurities, overcome them by building from the foundation upward, and know your capabilities and limitations.
Saturn acts as a powerful lens, focusing your attention on the task of developing your self-identity. You may, therefore, appear consumed with the act of exploring your self and strengthening your identity. In the end, however, the successful actualization of Saturn in the First House results in a strong, self-assured and competent sense of selfhood.
Transcendent Potential
You can realize the transcendent potential of Saturn in the First House when, cut off from the common understanding of selfhood and identity, you arrive at an authentic definition of self through long struggle,. This is only possible when you undertake the journey, alone, to find the true meaning and place of selfhood. You realize the paradox of the, at once, humble and exalted position of the self in relation to the cosmos and you realize that the True Self is not the ego.
Knowing, or at least glimpsing, your true identity, you experience a pro-found sense of self-assurance. Self-respect and confidence in your identity becomes inner-referenced, rather than outer-referenced. Thus, your inner equipoise is undisturbed by external events or by the opinions of others. The inner strength acquired by you allows you to steadfastly pursue your goals with firmness and strength of personality. Yet, you do not use your strength for selfish advantage or to acquire dominance over others. Rather, you employ this strength to continue in righteous ways and to pursue the inner quest for self-realization.
Insecurity
If you are inwardly insecure, this can manifest in a variety of ways with Saturn in the First House. One possibility is that you utterly fail to develop an individual self-identity. Instead, you surrender your identity to the superego (symbolized by Saturn). All of your important actions, thoughts, behavior and feelings are determined by the dictates of what is expected of you in the context of social propriety. You are completely role-dominated. Your life, as expressed through your identity, is rigid, absolute, and devoid of spontaneity. The urge to self-development has been blocked in you.
Another manifestation of Saturn in the First House is that you feel too weak and insecure about your identity or self-worth to engage in independent self-development. You generally make one of two accommodations. One is for you to construct a wall of protection around your insecurity by plunging into Saturnian pursuits, which involve discipline, hard work, and playing by the rules. You may achieve much but, behind the outward success, is an inner insecurity. You guard your vulnerabilities and you never let down this guard. Your persona is one dimensionally tied to your status and your achievements or to a character that is dedicated to hard work, discipline and authority.
The second accommodation is for you to be overwhelmed by a sense of your inadequacy, producing a classic inferiority complex. You feel that efforts to assert yourself are useless. You may feel beaten down by life. Self-esteem is lacking. You may subject yourself to guilt-ridden self-criticism and/or you may adopt a martyr attitude. At the extreme of this manifestation, you are subject to depression and other forms of active self-destruction.
Finally, the inner sense of inferiority brought on by this placement may manifest as a superiority complex. You compensate for a weak self-identity and low self-esteem by constantly asserting your authority. Rather than be subject to rules and restrictions, you desire to rule others. You may be ruthless and harsh in your execution of power over others. Instead of a true identity, you develop an autocratic personality. Arrogance and boasting are simply expressions of this autocracy. This behavior should not be confused with a lust for power or a compulsion to control and manipulate. It is merely a defense mechanism. Behind the show of authority, you are afraid to stand naked in authentic selfhood without your protective armor.
Focus of Your Effort and Discipline
You are most likely to engage in effort and discipline with respect to your selfhood. You may apply your efforts and discipline to the task of finding and developing a sense of self and a self-identity. Taking this further, you may focus your efforts on discovering the Self--an endeavor requiring much discipline. In a displacement of this focus, you may form a self-identity that incorporates the qualities of effort and discipline. These Saturnian functions are, then, present with respect to selfhood, but are static and do not result in further development of your identity.
Focus of Your Insecurity and Your Challenge to Overcome Limitation
You will likely suffer threats to your self-identity early in life, which may produce insecurity in you about your value and right-to-be. As a result, you may face a life-long challenge to overcome negative self-esteem. You may be handicapped by a lack of a strong sense of self-identity and, consequently, a weak or unassertive personality. You will have to struggle to overcome this, too. You may experience multiple identity crises in your life as you "peel away the onion" to find your true self. However, facing this challenge will make you stronger.
Focus of Your Externally Imposed "Lessons"
You may be driven to concentrate on achieving focus and self-discipline or you may be forced to recognize your limitations through experiences involving blows to your self-esteem. These blows may be directed at you by others or simply by the external circumstances of life. External events may also lead you to reassess your self, particularly with respect to gaining a more realistic picture of yourself and your place in the world.
The personality may also express undertones of Saturn-in-Aries.

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Omg I'm totally hanzel...
Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

zoolander would be a scorp asc and hazel would be a gemini asc or sag, but thats not the point..

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i can't tell who dresses better!! the new look is a combo of both like hanzel scorped up! is dangerous bro!

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posted February 07, 2013 09:42 PM            

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I have Gem Saturn in H3/H4 (conjunct the IC)

My Saturn is well aspected. No hard aspects.
IT sextiles my Leo Stellium.

It for sure mellows out all that Leo.. Makes me responsible. Prob a little boring also..

Just before my Saturn return I had my 2nd child 10 years apart..
So during my Saturn return I had to learn how to handle with Having a Career and a baby along with a preteen.

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posted February 07, 2013 09:43 PM            

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i can't tell who dresses better!! the new look is a combo of both like hanzel scorped up! is dangerous bro!

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Uggh zoolander is too macthy with the alizarin crimson top and bottoms.
Hazel has the classic combination or purple and silver

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posted February 07, 2013 09:48 PM            

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Yesh I'm in love with asteroid astrology >.>; it falls into my mythology obsession quite nicely~

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He's not smothering me *gulp* yet! >.> <.<

just challenging me to move on~ challenging my relationships with my immediate family, challenging me to cut free from old ways too it seems... He's working in unison with Jupiter right now, (Jupiter is passing through my 10th, and has been giving me all kinds of crazy luck *except when he was fooling around going backwards there* bah) I've been feeling caught in my ol' emotional box more frequently than normal.. My moon is leaning on Chiron, and he's only got one good leg, so we're like a bunch of weeble-wobbles inside right now~ I'm dreading the point he crosses my actual lunar opposition degree... It probably won't be as bad as I'm imagining it, cause so far it hasn't been. ^^; for every challenge Saturn gives us, he rewards us in completion~ that's my firm belief with Lord Saturn.

Vedic fears Saturn lol >.<;

but, yes I get ya'~ I give my tribute at Kronia in the summer, every year~ >.>; it goes hand in hand with the Bacchanalia festival.

hmmm... maybe that's why Jupiter and Saturn are so good to me?

*crossesfingers* I just hope the actual transit goes smoothly without too much damage~ my 3rd house is dreadfully important to me... and, I'd like to knock/talk some sense into my lil brother before it's too late. /sigh

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this is the tightest aspect in my chart.

Jupiter sextile Saturn You Have Opportunities for Coordination of the Contradictory Functions of
Expansion/Growth/Carefree Beneficence and Contraction/Limitation/Discipline
The Jupiter and Saturn functions are natural opposites, but the sextile suggests that you have opportunities to use each function to support and enhance the other. You can use the expansive energy symbolized by Jupiter to loosen the rigidity suggested by Saturn. As bound up energy begins to flow again, you make progress toward your goal. When obstacles and limitations confront you, if you try to understand the situation by looking at the larger picture, you can often see your way out of the limiting situation you are in.
When discipline and limitation are unavoidable, you have the capacity to see the benefit of the situation and to accept it, learn from it and eventually grow through it. You have the capacity to not take yourself too seriously, especially when it comes to rules and discipline. You can, therefore. more easily work within organization and structure in a relaxed and positive manner.
Life also tends to provide you with opportunities for your hard work to not only become enjoyable, but to be fruitful. You generally can place desirable limits and discipline on yourself. When you may be tempted to become overly optimistic, you have the capacity to put things into perspective by taking cognizance of the limitations and realities of the situation. When you are tempted to exaggerate, or when others try to exaggerate, you can scale down the "hype" to realistic levels. This capacity to put things into practical terms, while still maintaining an optimistic outlook, results in a personality with much balance and perspective.
The sextile between Jupiter and Saturn suggests that you have opportunities for the archetypes of the Benevolent Ruler and the Wise Old Man to assist in each other’s psychological objectives. You may receive constructive guidance and discipline from the Saturnian archetype, while the Jupiterian archetype provides you with understanding and a sense of well-being. Both energies are directed toward maintaining a healthy balance in the world and toward the achievement of fruitful goals. When effort and discipline are required, the promise of reward for that effort makes it easy. When things are going your way, your work ethic does not allow you to get lazy and make careless mistakes.
If either Jupiter or Saturn has a difficult aspect from another planet, the sextile suggests that there are opportunities for you to relieve the stress that is associated with the difficult aspect. Putting forth effort or exercising discipline may give you opportunities to relieve stress caused by either excess or a diminished feeling of well-being (when the difficult aspect is to Jupiter). Often, when the difficult aspect is to Saturn, trying to gain a better understanding and broader perspective on things will ease a difficult situation. Sometimes the answer is to be found in taking an optimistic attitude while working hard to address the matter. Sometimes, of course, lucky opportunities will come your way to relieve a stressful situation, but you should not count on these.
Transcendent Potential
You can achieve the transcendent potential of Jupiter sextile Saturn by understanding the inherently beneficent nature of the universe and by realizing that you need to let things go and flow with the moment. This will allow you to temper your discipline and adherence to rules and structure and overcome any rigidity. You realize that effort creates opportunities for Grace to be displayed and so you easily discipline yourself to work. By attaining the right perspective, your effort seems light and even enjoyable.
When you are blessed by goodness, growth and understanding, you are able to see in this the opportunity, or the calling, to put forth more effort in order to further enrich yourself spiritually. You are not attached to anything--not to the fruits of your effort nor to any rigid dogma or artificial discipline. Instead, you allow yourself to be rightly guided by enhanced understanding and Grace.
Insecurity
If you are inwardly insecure, you will fail to take the opportunity offered to you achieve balance because you are too attached to one or the other pole of abundance or limitation, or even to both. Thus, you are subject to the excesses symbolized by Jupiter without taking advantage of the moderating influences symbolized by Saturn. You may await or expect things to be given to you rather than work for them and, if you receive of the goodness of the universe, you do not display gratitude. If you do work and put in effort, you will expect a reward as a matter of right. This is the most common tendency, since most people are naturally inclined to gravitate toward Jupiter’s easygoingness rather than the Saturnian energy.
If you gravitate toward the Saturnian pole, you are likely to be attached to rigidity and/or pessimism without recourse to Jupiter's ease and optimism. You may work hard, but not take the opportunity to enjoy the fruits of your effort. You may fear that something will be lost if you take the opportunity to slacken your efforts and enjoy life.
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Saturn in pisces/4H conjunct sun,venus,mercury,karma,square pluto,NN,opposite chiron,trine ascendant,I dont really hate saturn and hating saturn wont really get me anywhere with it being conjunct 3 of my personal planets BUT saturn transit through my 11th house and 12th house gave me nightmare.I am going through transit Saturn conjunct asc currently and it does not seem to be as bad as what I have read.Saturn gives you what you deserve,I think it has a bad reputation because it kicks your arse if you become lazy.There is no luck involved with saturn,you cant get away from it.

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