posted February 10, 2013 03:01 AM            

Today I texted him something corny and he replied to it with a smiley message. Then out of nowhere he replied to my "I hope things are well" with a really long winded explanation about how he has been feeling really depressed the last few days. He also mentioned how he knew he was communicating differently in the last few days, and he said that he knew I would say it was fine, but thats what he was dealing with. He mentioned how things at home were a little rough and how he's just been getting really introverted. I tried my best to reassure him that it really was okay, and told him to do whatever he needed to do (he's always asked for so much as a person, people come at him in a million different ways and I've never wanted to be yet another person complaining to him or making him feel pressured. So he really does have free reign to do what he needs to do, no judgement here if he needs time or space or a little introversion). Then I quickly went into how being in the eye of the storm is always the worst, but it all calms down after a while. He thanked me for understanding and just said that things were nuts. That's all. I ended things on a lighter note but Im worried about him.

Was that his way of putting me off or ending things? He said he knew I'd say it was fine but that he was going through stuff right now. Does this chart have a tendency to get depressed easily? Do they usually open up like that or was I given a glimpse into him that I should be thankful for. I'm always so unsure with Aqua males, they always seem really closed off when it comes to letting people get them - thats why when he suddenly opens up like that in bursts it catches me off guard and I want to help, but then Im worried I scare him because I reply in a compassionate manner - its who I am. I genuinely care for this kid, and when he explains about his sad moods like that I project that on myself. I just want to be selfless and help him so much but I find myself being a little hesitant because I might get really short replies like the ones I got tonight.

posted February 10, 2013 03:23 AM            

What I would like, and what I would do if I were you is be a friend, supportive, etc. But don't expect anything. But keep reaffirming you care for him. And show it in practical ways. For instance he may have a bday coming up, use that as a way to show you care for him (as in getting him something...send a nice caring note etc).

For me I'd want someone to check in on me from time to time (key word with anything Cap is consistent), but leave me to my own devices so I can deal with my own stuff and not put it on anyone else. Aqua's are that way as well...they do withdraw when they have a lot of internal stuff going on. And the Cap wouldn't help which could be the reason for the hot and cold.

But back to my point...be a friend, I say back off of the relationship stuff. Tell him once you like him (and eventually want a relationship), and then from there don't push things (as in telling him you want him, or asking if he likes you). Also tell him periodically just thinking of you and hope you have a great day things like that. Show you care about his well being, more than care about being with him (which you did with telling him the things you said tonight...which is why he responded well).

Someone with heavy Cap wants to know that someone is the real deal...so show him you care for his well being, also do you take an interest in his career? My point being Cap anything grows with time so you showing you care would make him think you are worth the time and effort to keep. I know that sounds so horrible...but Cap influenced ppl are all about worth and long term investment. And this guy is very much so not your typical Aqua. He is going to be a typical flirty/friendly Aqua Sun/Sag Mars when things are light and new...but once he starts to like someone he'll become the aloof standoffish guy he is (a la Cap Moon/Venus).

posted February 10, 2013 03:47 AM            

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Originally posted by GrlyGirl200:
Well this might be the reason why he is so hot and cold. He has ALOT going on. I'm not sure about him blowing you off...that is a possibility. But a heavy Cap person (myself included) deal with depressive moods ALOT. And I can see that adding another responsibility (ie you...if he likes you of course) would be hard.

What I would like, and what I would do if I were you is be a friend, supportive, etc. But don't expect anything. But keep reaffirming you care for him. And show it in practical ways. For instance he may have a bday coming up, use that as a way to show you care for him (as in getting him something...send a nice caring note etc).

For me I'd want someone to check in on me from time to time (key word with anything Cap is consistent), but leave me to my own devices so I can deal with my own stuff and not put it on anyone else. Aqua's are that way as well...they do withdraw when they have a lot of internal stuff going on. And the Cap wouldn't help which could be the reason for the hot and cold.

But back to my point...be a friend, I say back off of the relationship stuff. Tell him once you like him (and eventually want a relationship), and then from there don't push things (as in telling him you want him, or asking if he likes you). Also tell him periodically just thinking of you and hope you have a great day things like that. Show you care about his well being, more than care about being with him (which you did with telling him the things you said tonight...which is why he responded well).

Someone with heavy Cap wants to know that someone is the real deal...so show him you care for his well being, also do you take an interest in his career? My point being Cap anything grows with time so you showing you care would make him think you are worth the time and effort to keep. I know that sounds so horrible...but Cap influenced ppl are all about worth and long term investment. And this guy is very much so not your typical Aqua. He is going to be a typical flirty/friendly Aqua Sun/Sag Mars when things are light and new...but once he starts to like someone he'll become the aloof standoffish guy he is (a la Cap Moon/Venus).

May I ask what your placements are?

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He responded well tonight? He got quite quiet when I sent that message, and it was really all about saying "It genuinely IS fine, do your thing." and then getting into the whole looking back on tough situations and finding hope in the fact that they worked out in the long run. He simply said that "Yeah! things are crazy" and "thanks for understanding though" and that was it. I ended off lightheartedly and he played along but never replied to my last message. So I don't know if it went well, I think I might have upset him. I hope thats not the case, I hope he is just being internal right now and understands that I genuinely am there for him.

I do support his career. Whenever his career brings him to town I'm there cheering him on. I started the conversation today acknowledging all of the work he has been doing and saying that I hope its been going well/hasn't been too crazy. Thats what fuelled his big display I guess. When we speak about whats coming up for him I get so excited, we both talk like wide eyed 5 year olds when we get into talking about all of the great things he's going to do. He does the same for me though - I have a lot going on in terms of work as well, and I've set a lot of goals for myself and he seems to really respect that/even admire that.

posted February 10, 2013 04:21 AM            

You don't have any personal planets in Cap and you yourself aren't heavily earth so you really don't get that. But he isn't going to be heavy with the flowery language (despite being an Aqua) or talk for the simple sake of it (unlike a Gemini Moon). I'm a Cancer Sun/Asc/Mars and I know with you being a Cancer Venus/Mars you truly care for this guy...you're also in it for the long haul as a Taurus Sun (I'm a Taurus Venus...so again I get you lol). But I'm betting your caring for him is more in the emotional realm (as your Venus/Mars is in Water) and not in the concrete measurable realm.

Btw when is both your birthday and time of birth...and his as well? I want to see exactly what is going on with you two synastry wise.

"I do support his career. Whenever his career brings him to town I'm there cheering him on. I started the conversation today acknowledging all of the work he has been doing and saying that I hope its been going well/hasn't been too crazy. Thats what fuelled his big display I guess."

Actually you showed you cared for him on deeper level...that's why you got a real response from him. Congrats!! Also don't be afraid to be serious every now and again...that's important.

I don't think he is angry...he has nothing to be angry about. I truly think he has a lot going on. I thought you had Cancer planets...ppl with Cancer stuff tend to focus on the feelings and nothing else. I can be that way as well. My Aqua got distant years ago because of not knowing where he would end up and not wanting to get attached because of that. My Cancer self didn't understand why he would not want to be around me. But eventually my Cap Moon logical side kicked in and I FINALLY got it lol. As far as you, you are focused on the fact that you have feelings for each other and he should behave in a certain way because he has feelings.

posted February 10, 2013 04:25 AM            

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Originally posted by GrlyGirl200:
Yep he will respect the side of you that has career goals as he will want a woman who is going somewhere. I actually took the convo you guys had as it ending well, after all he could have not responded at all. The thing you don't really get as a Gemini Moon is this guy isn't going to be verbal AT ALL...he is more of an actions person (even if he isn't there). An example of this is if he knows you don't like something he does he will not do it...in order to not upset you.

You don't have any personal planets in Cap and you yourself aren't heavily earth so you really don't get that. But he isn't going to be heavy with the flowery language (despite being an Aqua) or talk for the simple sake of it (unlike a Gemini Moon). I'm a Cancer Sun/Asc/Mars and I know with you being a Cancer Venus/Mars you truly care for this guy...you're also in it for the long haul as a Taurus Sun (I'm a Taurus Venus...so again I get you lol). But I'm betting your caring for him is more in the emotional realm (as your Venus/Mars is in Water) and not in the concrete measurable realm.

Btw when is both your birthday and time of birth...and his as well? I want to see exactly what is going on with you two synastry wise.

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What do you mean isn't measurable? Hmmm. Is that was a Cap looks for? A measurable sense of care? That equates physical forms of caring doesn't it, versus me simply understanding him and him knowing that/speaking to me about whats bothering him.

posted February 10, 2013 04:34 AM            

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Originally posted by bullseye:
What do you mean isn't measurable? Hmmm. Is that was a Cap looks for? A measurable sense of care? That equates physical forms of caring doesn't it, versus me simply understanding him and him knowing that/speaking to me about whats bothering him.

I dont know times but
May 15th 1991 is mine
Jan 24 1990 is his

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Bingo!!! Remember he IS NOT an Air Moon or is he heavily Air (or Water...they would want the understanding...and despite being an Aqua he is not a talker...this is why someone should NEVER try to do compatibility with just the Sun sign...when dating people tend to see more than just your Sun as you have experienced his Cap Moon). Another thing that is an issue is you are a Aries Mercury (meaning you are straight forward and very blunt), he's a Cap Mercury. He is straight forward, but will mull over things much more than you. And his talking style is much much more controlled than yours. Plus, he is not going to want to talk about it. For instance when I have a bad day I don't want to talk about it...but someone can make me feel better by a hug (physical). Or I had a Gemini Sun/Mercury friend (with Cap Mars) who would bake (ie a physical action) me a cupcake if she knew I had a bad day. Or if she was at the store she would pick me up something because (she was also a Cancer Venus). And I'd do the same.

posted February 10, 2013 05:12 AM            

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Originally posted by bullseye:
Im honestly just way too discouraged right now. He can continue talking to me but I genuinely am never going to get what I want out of him, Im starting to realize that. If he can't drive a few hours to come and see me then he clearly doesn't value me as a person. I just wish he would stop keeping me around, there's no point in talkin to me the way he does if he isn't going to pursue anything. Its frustrating.

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Hun no don't think that way!! I know your Cancer placements are kicking in and you're hurt. But don't think that negatively, or be hurt. I know he likes you, he wouldn't talk to you otherwise. He has a job, and a lot going on. It is a lot of work to drive two hours whenever you want to see someone. And its expensive as well. It has nothing to do with you and your value. If he didn't value you he wouldn't even talk to you (I know that for sure), or reassure you.

The thing he said tonight about him having a lot to going on was him letting you in and finally showing you (after you were nice and inquired as to how he was) that he has a lot of burdens. I honestly think you should just do what you did tonight...keep it light, but inquire as to how he is from time to time...tell him you're thinking of him. Things like that (like send a fb message that says it) but don't expect a response back. That way he is reassured he is in your thoughts and you care for him, but is free to focus on his worries and responsibilities. And look up Cap Males...he's more Cap than Aqua anyway. Remember they are all about business and responsibility first! Then pleasure and fun later after everything is taken care of. I will say though that you have put in nine months...If you truly want him you will probably have to wait much longer...after all I'm a Cap Moon and it took me what three years to admit I loved my Aqua ex lol (I needed to know it stood the test of time).

But I will caution you...if he truly has a bunch of burdens going on, and you stop talking to him and he truly cares for you and likes you...he would be very angry and upset. To him that would look like you aren't there through thick and thin.

posted February 10, 2013 06:21 AM            

I just feel written off. So while he has the time and is in good enough spirits to like all of this girls pictures, to comment flirty things on there that genuinely hurt me, when I talk to him I get insight into his feelings but I also feel a little pushed aside. You know, how upset are you if you're openly flirting with attractive females? Or posting about having an amazing night with friends? Enough to justify ignoring me? I dont know. Maybe I deal with my emotions differently, but that just doesn't seem to match up with what hes describing.

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posted February 10, 2013 11:04 AM            

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What degree is his Sun at? Transiting Saturn in Scorpio could be squaring his natal sun and/or Pluto at this time. Saturn-Sun transits= Classic depression transit. My ex has Sun at 12 degrees Aqua and Mercury at 10 degrees Aqua, and he has been very depressed lately.

I have Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, and Neptune in Capricorn. I can get depressed at times.

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posted February 10, 2013 11:18 AM            

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I'm not entirely sure how to check that!

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Post his chart.

Or locate the sun in chart and post which degree it is at.

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posted February 10, 2013 11:29 AM            

" Does this chart have a tendency to get depressed easily? "

Hm, well it depends what you mean by easily. Sure many caps (I know I do) have a tendency to pessimism and depressed moods but they're also very resilient in my opinion.

"Do they usually open up like that or was I given a glimpse into him that I should be thankful for?"

Like I said, I'm a cap sun and not an aqua sun, but as a cap moon, I can definitely assure you that NO, in no way do I usually open up like that. I may talk about how tired I am, how difficult things are etc.. but telling someone I'm depressed ? Hell no. I have struggled with serious depression the past years, and I didn't talk about it to anyone except with people on the internet. It might sound pathetic but it was very difficult for me to tell this to people close to me because I knew they wouldn't understand and they wouldn't be able to do anything for me. Besides I did not want them to look at me differently because of this. So I wold say that yes, you were given a glimpse into him that you should be thankful for, as it shows that he trust you enough and believes you won't judge him (caps are very wary of this )

"Was that his way of putting me off or ending things?"
No. I think he wanted to end things he wouldn't have bothered opening up. He would simply have ended them.
I think he told you that because he might be aware that he's sending mixed signals or some thing like that and he wants you to bear with him. Given his chart and what you said that's what I believe is most likely to be true.

"How do you deal with depressive moods in your chart?"
I am not really sure how to answer this. Like I said if I am slightly depressed, I will be okay. Some people just have a tendency to get tired and unsatisfied with things easily and I seem to be one of them. However if it's depression, it's more serious and tricky to handle. Faith does help a lot though.

posted February 10, 2013 11:34 AM            

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Yes, but that's with "unknown" time of birth (i know just his date) - you might need the exact time of birth for the exact degrees.

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No, I really don't. I'm asking about his Sun, not his Moon or any of his angles.

posted February 10, 2013 11:48 AM            

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Wow, I must admit it's so nice to see people's reaction to strong Capricorn individuals.

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With House 7 in Capricorn - i like Capricorns... at least some of them (with House 5 in Scorpio - some scorpionic influences might also be necessary). ^^

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posted February 10, 2013 11:49 AM            

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No, I really don't. I'm asking about his Sun, not his Moon or any of his angles.

The Sun only moves 1 degree per day, so it's fine.

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posted February 10, 2013 12:15 PM            

I can definitely see potential for his depression in his chart.. It seems that he has Saturn in conjunction Venus/Mercury/Neptune conjunction. It is also very possible that his Moon is conjunct his Saturn, as well.

He also has Chiron opposing his Mercury, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune, and possibly his Moon. That's tough.

In your synastry, his Venus and Saturn on your NN is pretty powerful..

Your Venus is exactly opposite his Uranus, so he might find him kinda on-off and unpredictable.

Your Venus is opposite his Neptune, but his Venus is conjunct your Neptune. Lots of idealization and compassion between the two of you, but possibly delusion and a lot of fantasy. My mom and dad have this lol. THey're super forgiving and compassionate towards each other. They only see the best in one another.

Your Venus is conjunct his Chrion, his Chiron is opposite your Venus. Lots of potential for healing, but can be painful.

Your Saturn and Juno are right on his Sun. His Saturn trines your Sun, his Juno opposes your Sun. This is pretty stabilizing.

I don't like his Saturn opposite your Mars; it can indicate he may be controlling or limiting towards you.

His Pluto is opposite your Sun. Can lead to power games, manipulation, obsession, possessiveness.

His Venus is exactly trine your Sun. I love this aspect Shows compatibility, fun, warmth, etc..

Your Mars opposite his Venus is hot Good for sex, and indicates a strong attraction.