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Juliet41894
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posted February 17, 2013 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juliet41894     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
specifically, those of you with no planets in the 12th, how well do you let along with it's ruler?

for me, Gemini is on the cusp. I find gems very frustrating. I just don't get them at all. however, i'm very attracted to something about them. perhaps it is because 1) I lack air in my chart and 2) i'm an aries so we got the sextile goin. or maybe it's just because for me they represent the intangible and mystery and all the 12th house fun stuff.

anyone else feel similarly?

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12thhouser
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posted February 17, 2013 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't wait to read the responses on this thread. lol

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SaturnineMoth
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posted February 17, 2013 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
zilch for planets in my 12h.

12h Leo... 5h Sun in Capricorn...

I have a bit of a soft spot for Leos and Capricorns~ Capricorn received no squares from my natal placements, but Leo does sometimes receive squares from my Scorpio planets, and Taurus Moon. I think Mercury square Moon aren't the best synastry aspects... so that may cause friction sometimes with a Lion Mercury. Otherwise, I can't say I've had too many negative associations with either people... (the Caps/Leos placementers)

I think the helping hand is from my Moon and Sun trining... so even if they badly aspect my Moon, they're forgiven... by my 5th house (traditional Leo house) Sun. ^^; I'm not aware of any times that my Scorpio placements badly effected my relations with those with Leo placements of their own.

I do sort of feel subconsciously suspicious of those with Leo/Virgo planets falling in my 12h... I always say to those there... "stay out of my head"! haha

Nothing too negative though... my anti-Vertex falls on my 12h cusp too though... there's an element of attraction/chemistry involved there because of this I believe.

So for me, no, no... Leon ladies often garner my respect, I love them... Leon men... mmmph... XD

My Venus/SN and Vesta/NN love them... they're... just... attractive people! haha

They may not be the best partners for me, in any matter... but, I do enjoy their company, and often (over) forgive them easily when they do wrong by me. But, I don't think I've ever felt animosity or fear towards one. lol

... not knowingly... at least. ^^;

Maybe that's a given when you are a 12her or 12h's ruler is your sun... =x iunno?!

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sweet-scorpion
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posted February 17, 2013 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio 12H. Pluto there, trine 8H Mars.

I have a love-hate relationship with Scorpios. Especially since my Mars is in 29 Cancer and my 5H ruler, plus it squares my Merc also... which is in Scorpio! They stir up a lot of feelings inside of me usually. And we fight a LOT sometimes, the Merc-Mars thing playing into it I suppose. I find them fascinating and despite our fights we are usually through thick and thin together.

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posted February 17, 2013 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sun is on the gemini/cancer cusp 12th house. Those are the two rulers. So is my north node in cancer.

I get along with other geminis but sometimes find them to be too unemotional. Unless they have water in their chart and also depends on aspects.

I love cancers.

Mercury in gemini
Asc in cancer


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piscesfishgoddess
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posted February 17, 2013 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for piscesfishgoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Juliet41894:
specifically, those of you with no planets in the 12th, how well do you let along with it's ruler?

for me, Gemini is on the cusp. I find gems very frustrating. I just don't get them at all. however, i'm very attracted to something about them. perhaps it is because 1) I lack air in my chart and 2) i'm an aries so we got the sextile goin. or maybe it's just because for me they represent the intangible and mystery and all the 12th house fun stuff.

anyone else feel similarly?


Stay away from Geminni. They are the twins. The surface side of them is nice and all but their real side.......

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posted February 17, 2013 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by piscesfishgoddess:
Stay away from Geminni. They are the twins. The surface side of them is nice and all but their real side.......

I wouldnt say twins. More like quadruplets lol

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posted February 17, 2013 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for piscesfishgoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venusian Moon:
I wouldnt say twins. More like quadruplets lol

lol exactly. I have never befriended a geminni. ever. Read up about them.....*eerie music plays**

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Venusian Moon
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posted February 17, 2013 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by piscesfishgoddess:
lol exactly. I have never befriended a geminni. ever. Read up about them.....*eerie music plays**

Im a gemini lol. But i am on the gemini/cancer cusp.


I have taurus moon/taurus venus/cancer asc.


Dont worry im not like those other jekyll and hyde psychos

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Lonake
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posted February 17, 2013 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancer. I like the ones that aren't insane...
But a lil off the deep end is OK.

Cancer Sun ~ that girl cracks me up.

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posted February 17, 2013 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taurus 12th house.
I eros in taurus, I don't have a problem with them.
I have some taurus friends.
I also love sand.

12th ruler is really prominent part of my chart its with the luminaries and on my asc.

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Juliet41894
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posted February 17, 2013 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juliet41894     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by piscesfishgoddess:
Stay away from Geminni. They are the twins. The surface side of them is nice and all but their real side.......

so much truth. I was recently charmed by a gem with pisces moon. so funny, so (seemingly) sweet..but unfortunately that just wasn't the case..all that mutable energy makes one quite the hustler

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posted February 17, 2013 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Juliet41894:
so much truth. I was recently charmed by a gem with pisces moon. so funny, so (seemingly) sweet..but unfortunately that just wasn't the case..all that mutable energy makes one quite the hustler


Careful with pisces influences. They can be smooth talkers and will even believe their own lies. Combined with gemini sun even worse.

I have noticed people with pisces influences to be liars, cheats, will screw their best friends man behind there back.

They are easily seduced.

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12thhouser
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posted February 17, 2013 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Venusian Moon:
Careful with pisces influences. They can be smooth talkers and will even believe their own lies. Combined with gemini sun even worse.

I have noticed people with pisces influences to be liars, cheats, will screw their best friends man behind there back.

They are easily seduced.


lol, depends on the Pisces placements, aspects, etc.. Not all are like that. Some can cheer you up without even trying.

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Juliet41894
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posted February 17, 2013 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juliet41894     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
actually if someone wouldn't mind looking at the synastry ...he's the outer rim


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posted February 17, 2013 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a gemini, I probably have more gemini in my chart then anyone you've ever met. I can probably be the official mascot for team Gemini since I don't have a lot of other influences in my chart.

I don't trick and swindle people for my own amusement. I don't see the purpose in that. I'm more focused on observing and learning the world around me. My social life is very much apart of my life whether I like it or not.
I am chameleon like thou, I don't have a fixed personality.
The only think I feel strongly about is equality, and treating everyone fairly.
Everything else in life is grey for me.
The negative thing is others should not be emotionally dependent on me.
I can be a good friend but I can't deal with emotions or feelings.
I can be very insensitive if I'm angry

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Juliet41894
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posted February 18, 2013 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juliet41894     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
I don't trick and swindle people for my own amusement. I don't see the purpose in that. I'm more focused on observing and learning the world around me. My social life is very much apart of my life whether I like it or not.
I am chameleon like thou, I don't have a fixed personality.
The only think I feel strongly about is equality, and treating everyone fairly.
Everything else in life is grey for me.
The negative thing is others should not be emotionally dependent on me.
I can be a good friend but I can't deal with emotions or feelings.
I can be very insensitive if I'm angry

that's a very good description..I would never label the geminis I know as cruel or conniving. they're just much more cerebral than I. not that I don't think, but with a cancer moon i'm much more in tune with how I feel. I need stability and I suppose i'm learning that the Gemini persona just can't offer me that

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posted February 18, 2013 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I can be a good friend but I can't deal with emotions or feelings.
I can be very insensitive if I'm angry [/B]

I love my fellow gems but this is where we clash.

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