posted February 17, 2013 03:22 PM            

This is my first post, and I have VERY recently gotten into reading natal charts so forgive me for sounding like a total newbie when talking about this stuff. I was first interested in planets in the houses because I have so many houses that are empty, and thought this meant it was bad news for those empty houses....I have since learned it just means they're areas I need not focus energy on, or areas I don't feel are super important. Obviously my 7th house being empty concerned me because no one wants to think they'll be alone forever, but now I have a bigger concern: even though 7 is empty, my Venus is conjunct Pluto in 8th house (Scorpio).

I've done a little research and have come to the conclusion that this is an incredibly intense, volatile, and seemingly scary placement haha. I'm interested, though, because my 7H is empty...which makes sense because I have Sun in, and Saturn/Uranus/Mercury conjunct MC (Sag), and Jupiter conjunct Mars (both conj ASC) in 1H (Pisces), so it seems I'm supposed to be more focused on a career than on love--the other two are Neptune in 10(Cap), Moon in 5(Cancer).

I guess I'm interested because my 7H is empty, yet I have this massive erotic/obsessive energy whirling around in the 8H. Even though it's my natal chart, I'm wondering if it might have more to do with a romantic relationship/a person I will meet, and the potential destruction it could lead to? Or maybe it will just be a life-changing death/rebirth/new outlook sort of thing in regard to a sexual relationship? I've also heard it could mean a partner might die before marriage?

posted February 17, 2013 04:18 PM            

I'm glad to hear you have done so much research. Astrology is a complex art and study/observation was the #1 way I became familiar with the subtleties in a natal chart. I have something similar in my own chart - Venus in Scorpio 8H, Scorpio ruled 8H. So I can definitely identify with strong/passionate energies surrounding Venus. I also have Sun in Sag, so we come from similar perspectives in this case.

When I first got into astrology, I was also under the impression that my empty houses were not particularly important. As time passed, I realized this is not the case. All 12 houses represent individual areas of your life which require attention, just like any other. Planets are personality traits, and the house they appear in is simply the area of your life that personality trait is wired to focus on most. I look to the ruling sign as an indicator of how to approach an empty house. Also a house without traditional planets doesn't exclude the possibility of something like an asteroid, node, or Arabian Part playing around in there. That of course, is for further down the line on your studies.

Venus deals with our attractions and values, it is the things in life we find shiny or worth our interest. 8H Venus makes us a person who is interested in things which can not be seen, but still effect the material world (mystical topics, psychology, deep emotional interaction, the inner truth of people and the world, the topic of death, the part of us that continues to effect the world after we die, etc..).

The 8th House rules anything which effects the world in an indirect, hidden, or incorporeal way. The comment about having a loved one die is something you will see a lot. In my opinion it is a lot less likely then the fuss people seem to make. Having an 8H Venus can also mean loving hospice work for people and animals, loving psychology, valuing astrological pursuits, valuing relationships which are deeply honest, and allow everyone involved to be true to their inner nature. I have lots of planets in my 8th House and though death has been a learning theme in my life, I'm still waiting for that inheritance check that some astrologers say I am entitled to. =)

If your 7H is empty then the focus is on generating relationships surrounding the ruling sign's energies. Empty house can be challenging in a sense, because without a planet, asteroid, etc we don't have an aspect of our personality which directly identifies with that area of our life. Virgo DSC can indicate a belief that we are not worthy of connection if we don't first work for it. We seek to nourish others in the hope of earning their understanding. In some cases there can be a principal of "if you are doing your job correctly, then you are worthy of love, but if you are not valued by others, you are doing something wrong". This can be good in that the person may be discriminating with who they give their heart to and where they invest their self, but it can also be destructive if the person bases their worth and health on people relating with them. The 7th house cusp being your DSC, is just as important as your ASC in my opinion. It indicates how you naturally view your environment and the people in it (the filter you see the world and others through in order to relate to them).

I hope this was helpful. If you have questions which pertain to more in depth info of your own chart, consider posting in the Personal Readings room. There are a lot of very helpful people there who can give you answers tailored to your individual chart.

=)

posted February 17, 2013 07:52 PM            

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Originally posted by calliope23:
I totally feel this way all the time, like it's up to me to be a certain way or to fit into the crevices of others in order for them to appreciate me or to feel valuable. That sounds a bit extreme, but mostly I just feel misunderstood by people or totally write people off before getting to know them because I feel they're not going to understand my depth anyway.

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Very well explained. The DSC generally has to do with our ability to relate with others and how we assume others will be able to relate with us. Your process sounds right on point when Virgo DSC shows up in a chart with emotionally complex placements (your Venus for example).

Having an ASC in Pisces already makes a person pretty complex, so the additional Pluto/Venus stuff must result in feeling pretty misunderstood on occasion. Never fear though, there are all kinds of people in the world and many have their own complexities which make them more eligible to relate with and love you. I think the key to Virgo DSC is going with the flow, allowing things to unfold without acting on prejudgment, flexibility without self destruction, and a good instinct for knowing when to keep working at something and when to give things the room to grow apart.