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its_aqua
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posted February 18, 2013 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey guys, below I have the placements of two different synastries with the same guy- but the girls are different.

So I was wondering if anyone could give me some insight of which synastry works/would work the best for the guy? In a few words, describe how you think each relationship would be.

1st syanstry
Guys planet - 1st girl planets:

Sun opposition Sun
Sun sextile Mars
Sun opposition Saturn
Sun conjunct Chiron
Sun conjunct S.Node

Moon square Sun
Moon sextile Mercury
Moon qunincunx Mars
Moon square Jupiter
Moon square Saturn
Moon trine ASC

Mercury square Moon
Mercury quincunx Venus
Mercury opposition Neptune
Mercury opposition Uranus
Mercury trine Pluto
Mercury trine Vertex
Mercury trine Eros

Venus sextile Moon
Venus trine Venus
Venus quincunx Neptune
Venus quincunx Pluto
Venus opposition Lilith
Venus conjunct ASC
Venus quincunx Eros

Mars sextile Sun
Mars square Mercury
Mars sextile Mars
Mars trine Jupiter
Mars sextile Saturn
Mars sextile Psyche

Jupiter trine Sun
Jupiter conjunct Mars
Jupiter trine Saturn
Jupiter trine N.Node
Jupiter conjunct Psyche

Saturn sextile Venus
Saturn opposition ASC

Uranus opposition ASC

Neptune conjunct Mercury
Neptune conjunct Uranus
Neptune sextile Eros

Pluto square Sun
Pluto sextile Mercury
Pluto square Jupiter
Pluto sextile Neptune
Pluto sextile Uranus
Pluto conjunct Eros


2nd synastry
Guys planets- 2nd girls planets:

Moon sextile Sun
Moon trine Moon

Mercury conjunct Moon
Mercury sextile Venus
Mercury sextile Jupiter
Mercury quincunx Saturn
Mercury opposition Neptune
Mercury opposition Uranus
Mercury trine Pluto

Venus sextile Mercury
Venus square Venus
Venus conjunct Mars
Venus square Jupiter
Venus trine Saturn
Venus quincunx Neptune
Venus quincunx Uranus
Venus quincunx Pluto

Mars quincunx Sun
Mars square Moon

Jupiter square Sun

Saturn trine Sun

Uranus trine Sun

Neptune trine Sun
Neptune opposition Moon
Neptune quincunx Mercury

Pluto trine Moon
Pluto square Mercury
Pluto square Saturn
Pluto sextile Uranus


So how do you think the guy feels in each relationship??

EDIT: I have added below the three natal charts, I couldn't generate synastries because I don't know two of the three birth times

GUY'S

GIRL no1 (I know birth time)

GIRL no2

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Got Gemini??
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posted February 18, 2013 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini??     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It would be much better to post the synastry and composite charts from astro.com.

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Gemini Sun
Libra Moon
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus
Virgo Mars
Virgo Asc

And yes, I'm a guy!

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its_aqua
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posted February 18, 2013 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have the birth hour of two of th three people, so I think that if I post the charts it would be misleading

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Ceridwen
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posted February 18, 2013 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
astro.com has an option to cast charts without birthtime

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its_aqua
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posted February 18, 2013 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wrong quote

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its_aqua
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posted February 18, 2013 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
astro.com has an option to cast charts without birthtime

How can I do that? It shows a mesage saying that the synastry chart can't be generated without a birth time.

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Ceridwen
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posted February 18, 2013 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, but you can put up both or all three natals without birthtime here 8(I prefer that anyway, so I can see the degrees better)

However, without birthtime any interpretation would be very general and seriously lacking. I think your question wouldnīt be able to be answered in a satisfying way, as a very integral part of our attraction pattern are the houses and house-rulerships.

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Venusian Moon
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posted February 18, 2013 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Number 2 lol

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its_aqua
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posted February 18, 2013 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No, but you can put up both or all three natals without birthtime here 8(I prefer that anyway, so I can see the degrees better)

However, without birthtime any interpretation would be very general and seriously lacking. I think your question wouldnīt be able to be answered in a satisfying way, as a very integral part of our attraction pattern are the houses and house-rulerships.


Okay Ceri, I'll post them here and hopefully you can give me some insight!

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its_aqua
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posted February 18, 2013 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Venusian Moon:
Number 2 lol

and the reason you picked no2?

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its_aqua
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posted February 18, 2013 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No, but you can put up both or all three natals without birthtime here 8(I prefer that anyway, so I can see the degrees better)

However, without birthtime any interpretation would be very general and seriously lacking. I think your question wouldnīt be able to be answered in a satisfying way, as a very integral part of our attraction pattern are the houses and house-rulerships.


quote:
Originally posted by Got Gemini??:
It would be much better to post the synastry and composite charts from astro.com.


Okay guys, here are the charts:

GUY'S

GIRL no1 (I know birth time)

GIRL no2

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themischievousone
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posted February 18, 2013 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for themischievousone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
#2

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Venusian Moon
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posted February 18, 2013 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by its_aqua:
and the reason you picked no2?

Because i like intensity

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Ceridwen
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posted February 19, 2013 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It`s hard to tell without his birthtime, and the involvement of rulers could actually change everything.

Anyway, as it is now.


Guy has a Gemini-Venus, which is also a skipped step to his nodal axis (though widely). he probably is attracted to or needs some mental stimulation as well as a flirty approach, at least when it comes to attractions.

however, his Moon might be in Scorpio (it is really difficult to say without birthtime, actually Moon could be in Libra with an early birth, and it would emphasise the need for a more airy intellectual stimulation along with relating in a pleasant, though not necessarily very intense way).

BUT should he be a lter birth, his Moon is in Scorpio, possibly conjunct Pluto and would change it all! This would be a placement of utmost depth and intensity. As much as he might be attracted to charming, witty banter (Venus in Gemini), emotionally he would need a very deep and intense emotional connection to someone.


Girl No 1:
ASC in Gemini, which would generally attract his Gemini-Venus, but it is not close enough for being conjunct his ASC. So it could relate to a general liking, but simmering in the background.

Venus sextile her Moon and trine her Venus is a pleasant vibe, a harmony and balance especially in terms of how they relate to each other.

I know that textbooks emphasize the harmonious aspects, but to be honest I have never seen a harmonious sextile or trine "triggering" the need to be in a relationship. While these are very harmonious (and yes, you need that harmony for relationship-compatibility), if there is no dynamic aspect, these people might like each other a lot but never get up their butt to do and INITIATE something. They might be just too passive.

There is a possibility that her Sun is square his Moon, along with Suns in opposition. While this speaks of differences in temperament, it could very well be what is needed to relate to each other in strong ways. (my parents have something similiar: my Mum`s Scorpio Sun opposes my Dad`s Moon and squares his Sun in Aquarius - was enough spark for 40 years so far).

Her Jupiter opposite his Moon (if his Moon is close to 7 degree) would be very supportive as well. A great friendship vibe.
however girl no 1 might be lacking the Pluto-vibe his possible Scorpio-Moon needs.

his Sun on her SN, might give a past life link, or at least a pull that is very much based on familiarity. These pulls can be extremely strong, but there is the possibility that it will not be enough to carry on into the future.

I am going to have a look at girl 2 later


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posted February 19, 2013 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Girl No 2:

She has her Mars conjunct his Venus - she could be exactly what the doctor prescribes, in sexual terms at least.
however it does depend a little on the houseruler-relations.
I ahve experienced the conjunction without feeling attracted at all when I was Mars (Mars rules my IC and has nothing to do with any kind of sexual identity or partner-ideal).

The square to Venus-Jupiter; well either there are differences in taste and expression of love - but both are in Mercury-ruled signs, so there is some common ground at least-, or it might be actually a bit overindulgent. Jupiter square to Venus can actually make you quite dizzy with pleasure and joy.


Her Moon in Cancer would agree with his Scorpio-Moon, too. So their emotional needs would be similiar.
his Moon sextile her Sun would be a good friendship-placement, but interestingly is not as strong and dynamic as in the first synastry.

her Moon possibly trine his Pluto and more importantly opopsite his Neptune. Definitely much more intense than the first one. However, there is the danger of overidealisation and not seeing the other for who they are (neptune oppositions do that).
it could be that over time the emotional connection just seems to dissolve, or in the opposite, become quite spiritualized.

her Mars squares his nodal axis - passionate connection, though possibly verbally combative. A bit more banter than the expected maybe.

his Uranus-Saturn conjunct her NN - let me think on that.

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starmoon
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posted February 19, 2013 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
number 2

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its_aqua
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posted February 19, 2013 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Ceri thanks so much!!! In the first synastry, wouldn't the fact that the first girl has natally exact Venus-Pluto square and Sun in the 8th, match his Moon-Pluto in Scorpio conjunction? Also, the DW of Mars sextile Sun, doesn't show sexual chemistry or the sextile isn't so strong?

Thanks again for your time, and I would love a conclusion of you on which synastry may work best, though its such a pitty I don't have birth times.

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posted February 19, 2013 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starmoon:
number 2

thanks for your post starmoon, could you provide any feedback for your choice?

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posted February 20, 2013 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by its_aqua:
@Ceri thanks so much!!! In the first synastry, wouldn't the fact that the first girl has natally exact Venus-Pluto square and Sun in the 8th, match his Moon-Pluto in Scorpio conjunction? Also, the DW of Mars sextile Sun, doesn't show sexual chemistry or the sextile isn't so strong?

Thanks again for your time, and I would love a conclusion of you on which synastry may work best, though its such a pitty I don't have birth times.



I did not see the Venus-Pluto-square. lol
Yes of course that makes her resonate with Pluto, but more on a Venusian way. While he seeks the intensity in terms of his lunar emotional needs. Actually she could be a bit too intense for his airy Venus.

The Sun in 8th house however could be pretty strong in reflecting his Moon-Pluto-theme. yes. Though it is an Aqua-Sun. It is not an ideal situation, but it may work.


About the Sun-Mars-sextile. Sun-Mars in aspect is always good to have for sexual and physical attraction and energy. Personally I donīt view the sextile as very strong, but maybe others see that differently.
I think though that it can produce some playful physical chemistry.

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posted February 21, 2013 04:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:

I did not see the Venus-Pluto-square. lol
Yes of course that makes her resonate with Pluto, but more on a Venusian way. While he seeks the intensity in terms of his lunar emotional needs. Actually she could be a bit too intense for his airy Venus.

The Sun in 8th house however could be pretty strong in reflecting his Moon-Pluto-theme. yes. Though it is an Aqua-Sun. It is not an ideal situation, but it may work.


About the Sun-Mars-sextile. Sun-Mars in aspect is always good to have for sexual and physical attraction and energy. Personally I donīt view the sextile as very strong, but maybe others see that differently.
I think though that it can produce some playful physical chemistry.


Thanks again Ceri.
Well it seems like he chose then 2nd one.
Ugh, I feel so frustrated (I was the first one you see, but didn't want to reveal it in order to get some honest feedback without sugarcoating)

I can't even explain how much it gets on my nerves. She's not even pretty.

I wonder if me playing it cool and not giving him much attention didn't work as "playing it cool " is supposed to work.

Anyway, from my experience sooner or later Cancer guys always return, right?

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posted February 21, 2013 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The second girl has much better synastry with the guy, but seeing you don't know the birth time, moon and house placements could be totally different. Therefore the conjunctions may beat large degrees.

And I think the guy probably feels alot more connected to the second girl, personality wise-it's not just about looks afterall haha.

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its_aqua
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posted February 21, 2013 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Haplesschild*:
The second girl has much better synastry with the guy, but seeing you don't know the birth time, moon and house placements could be totally different. Therefore the conjunctions may beat large degrees.

And I think the guy probably feels alot more connected to the second girl, personality wise-it's not just about looks afterall haha.


*heartbroken*
ugh, yeah i know it's not about the looks and all, but after all he's quite superficial in things like that.

I hate the fact that I have to see both of them on daily basis.

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posted February 21, 2013 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have looked at countless charts and the scorpio-cancer connection comes up so often it's amazing - there is something about those two moons that must feel good for the people involved and a scorpio-aries moon connection would not have the same depth and emotional connection that the other two would feel - they would just feel very connected emotionally. they also have venus conjunct mars, which is an attraction factor in and of itself , and since it's his venus sign, he'll be automatically drawn to her. they also share a sun-moon connection in cancer, which is just basic synastry and the pull between a man-woman. are you girl #1? if so, too many of your placements are in air for this guy.. although you might have things to talk about because of aqua-gemini compatibility, it might not be enough to hold his interest. just imo :-)

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