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Little Doe
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posted February 18, 2013 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Little Doe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope you donīt mind me whining a little bit. I need to get something of my chest.

First of all, Iīm a little doe, with five planets in scorpio. But my mars is in libra, so Iīm really frienly and overly nice to EVERYONE. Even to the homeless people on the street who ask for money. I end up appologizing to them for not being able to give them more money than I have. (Iīm a pushover)

But bck to my scorpio stellum... Because I have ascendant, moon and venus in scorpio I have a dark edge that I donīt really understand myself. Itīs like every day is halloween.. and yet my libra mars is always overly friendly to everyone. Itīs a weird kombo.
Anyway, there is this big bad scorpio mars in my school... Iīm really attracted to him. And heīs not the first. I always get so attracted to men with mars in scorpio. We have a special chemistry. But there is a problem - mars in scorpio intimidates me! They always end up looking down on me. At first they like me, and the chemistry is of the charts. I can feel their animal magnetism going crazy for my scorpio moon and venus. But then my mars in libra ruins it. When the mars in scorpio guy sees how friendly and shallow I am with everyone they get turned of and think Iīm a stupid **** . It breaks my heart. Thatīs why I have such a tense chemistry with this mars in scorpio guy. I donīt even know him, but we communicate with our eyes.

The thing that I donīt like about mars in scorpio is that they are so judgemental of women who are very easygoing. And I find them to be hypocrites, at worst, because the same women that they find attractive because they are kind, they later write of as slutty, when they see us being kind to EVERYONE, and not just the scorpio mars.

Ok, Iīm done.

Youīre welcome to share your mars in scorpio story.

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posted February 18, 2013 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoVeLy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Little Doe:

But my mars is in libra, so Iīm really frienly and overly nice to EVERYONE. Even to the homeless people on the street who ask for money. I end up appologizing to them for not being able to give them more money than I have.

Awwww that is so SWEET

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Sun in Virgo conjunct Venus ( 11th House )
Moon in Libra
Rising sign Libra

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quinnlycanastro
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posted February 18, 2013 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for quinnlycanastro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay. How old are you? I need to know the rest of your chart.... I can find it in my ephemeris you don't have to post the date.

I dunno where to start.... with asc, moon and Venus in Scorp, if you're still quite young, there's a good chance you're game playing without realising it. Eye contact can be lethal for anyone with strong Scorp.

If a guy is tuning in to your Venus/Moon there's a good chance he thinks that something is going to happen, he won't want to communicate with Mars in Libra if he knows there's something more substantial lurking behind it.

Mars in Scorpio probably doesn't mean to intimidate you, but what it will do is force your Moon/Venus to be more "out there". Your Venus/Moon says "come here I will nurture you, I will give you what you need", their Mars says "okay then lets go"....but then nothing happens. Mars gets frustrated because he doesn't get his Venus.... Scorpio is not averse to spitting out some hellfire and fury in retaliation for a perceived humiliation. I'm not saying any of it is fair, but it's all very Venus/Mars Scorpio kind of stuff. The energy is very raw and sometimes crude.

I'm not convinced it's Mars in Libra that is making you shallow....

I was with someone who had Mars in Scorpio, a Sag Sun, merc, venus, neptune,north node. He wasn't judgemental of easy going women...

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Little Doe
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posted February 18, 2013 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Little Doe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by quinnlycanastro:
Okay. How old are you? I need to know the rest of your chart.... I can find it in my ephemeris you don't have to post the date.

I dunno where to start.... with asc, moon and Venus in Scorp, if you're still quite young, there's a good chance you're game playing without realising it. Eye contact can be lethal for anyone with strong Scorp.

If a guy is tuning in to your Venus/Moon there's a good chance he thinks that something is going to happen, he won't want to communicate with Mars in Libra if he knows there's something more substantial lurking behind it.

Mars in Scorpio probably doesn't mean to intimidate you, but what it will do is force your Moon/Venus to be more "out there". Your Venus/Moon says "come here I will nurture you, I will give you what you need", their Mars says "okay then lets go"....but then nothing happens. Mars gets frustrated because he doesn't get his Venus.... Scorpio is not averse to spitting out some hellfire and fury in retaliation for a perceived humiliation. I'm not saying any of it is fair, but it's all very Venus/Mars Scorpio kind of stuff. The energy is very raw and sometimes crude.

I'm not convinced it's Mars in Libra that is making you shallow....

I was with someone who had Mars in Scorpio, a Sag Sun, merc, venus, neptune,north node. He wasn't judgemental of easy going women...


(Iīm in my late 20īs)

Wow, that is interesting. You hit the nail on the head. I think thatīs exactly what the problem is. My asc, moon and venus are telling him "I am deep and nurturing", but my mars is giving him mixed signals. Me and him have been dancing this venus/mars in scorpio tango for a year now. Itīs so exausting, and itīs come to the point where it turned ugly. I think he resents me, because nothing happened. I think he might consider me a tease, but itīs not so.


Here is my chart:
http://astro.cafeastrology.com /cgi-bin/graphic/daisy24?dformat=2&date=1983/12/30&time=2.0&lat=45.08&long=-17.15&adjust=-1.00&lang=en&x=480&y=640

Here is our synastry chart.

Can you see anything?
http://www.astro.com/tmpd/cbjdfileVkKzNK-u1358587069/astro_acc_03_01_him_jenny _hp.75301.2101.png

Please note: his birth time is unknown - and I set it to 12:00 PM.


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Little Doe
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posted February 18, 2013 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Little Doe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is the synastry chart:
http://postimage.org/image/bl07oc6az/a1419636/

The old link doesnīt work

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Little Doe
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posted February 18, 2013 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Little Doe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, and can i just ask you what you mean by

"he won't want to communicate with Mars in Libra if he knows there's something more substantial lurking behind it."

Iīm not sure I get that part.

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quinnlycanastro
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posted February 18, 2013 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for quinnlycanastro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sorry to hear that things are turning sour. You're probably right about the resentment because nothing's happened, and I do understand when you say he might consider you a tease ~ when you're not.... you can't change the fact you have a packed 1st house and a Scorpio ascendant. And if you do connect with someone through eye contact, it's going to hit them like a freight train. Scorpio asc are usually drawn to peoples eyes ~ so it' not like you can spend your life looking down at the ground.... :/ it's a hard chart to carry although you might find it gets much easier after Saturn has been through that house.

With the synastry, the problem looks to be Uranus, it's con Venus and possibly square the Moon, this can make things unstable, erratic... I can't see the degrees but I'm assuming that Saturn has been rattling around Pluto in the synastry? That would put even more pressure on things, it'll force issues to the surface so they can be dealt with, or Pluto will make a request to bury the stuff that is dead. The Jupiter/Neptune conjunction is nice though, that brings some much needed optimism and even a little faith to the table

Edit to add ~ I was talking about the composite when I referred to the synastry, or at least I assumed it was a composite.

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posted February 18, 2013 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i dont think it is the mars in libra at all...
in synastry, you do have mars in libra square his cancer moon and his moon opposing your sun. maybe this has to do with it?
you have trined moons, and your mars sextiles his venus.

i think you are mirroring each other, imo.
this is not unusual among folks with a lot of scorpio...
there is like this...game...going on, very subtle. both waiting to see which one will 'fall' first...when will this person show his/her true colors...waiting for that person to 'fail the test'....
and underneath, there is such an electrifying intensity that one mistakes as fear of the other...but in reality, it is just intensity.

i dont know if im explaining it well but...i have a scorpio stellium and, ive had the same thing happening to me, with other scorpio stelliums only.

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quinnlycanastro
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posted February 18, 2013 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for quinnlycanastro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"there is like this...game...going on, very subtle. both waiting to see which one will 'fall' first...when will this person show his/her true colors...waiting for that person to 'fail the test'...."

I remember one of these in my life, and it was exactly like that.....there was never going to be a "winner".

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posted February 18, 2013 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for quinnlycanastro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Little Doe:
Oh, and can i just ask you what you mean by

"he won't want to communicate with Mars in Libra if he knows there's something more substantial lurking behind it."

Iīm not sure I get that part.


What I meant was that Mars in Libra would possibly try to keep things very civilised and on an "equal" footing. Mars in Scorpio wants to get primal/animal and straight to the point ~ he can't be bothered with such things as negotiations

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Doux Ręve
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posted February 19, 2013 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Ręve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ugh Scorpio and Libra are sooo antagonistic, it's a pain in the b**t to have them both in the personal planets.

On the one hand, I want things to be genuine, raw, "real".
On the other hand.. there's that friggin' Libra Venus that wants things to be "pretty" and "peaceful" yada yada.

So it's like I have conflicting wants/needs especially when it comes to romance.
I crave intimacy and I want to dive deep into myself and people, but when it's almost happening, I freak out and want to distance myself to the "right" point (balance, equilibrium; not shaking the status quo = Libra).

And I often want to call people out on their BS but err it's not easy to do cause I'm not that fond of unpleasing topics.


Very hard to reconcile the two.

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Little Doe
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posted February 19, 2013 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Little Doe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Ręve:
Ugh Scorpio and Libra are sooo antagonistic, it's a pain in the b**t to have them both in the personal planets.

On the one hand, I want things to be genuine, raw, "real".
On the other hand.. there's that friggin' Libra Venus that wants things to be "pretty" and "peaceful" yada yada.

So it's like I have conflicting wants/needs especially when it comes to romance.
I crave intimacy and I want to dive deep into myself and people, but when it's almost happening, I freak out and want to distance myself to the "right" point (balance, equilibrium; not shaking the status quo = Libra).

And I often want to call people out on their BS but err it's not easy to do cause I'm not that fond of unpleasing topics.


Very hard to reconcile the two.


I COMPETELY understand what you mean Itīs one of the toughest combos, imo. The two signs are SO different, and itīs like a battle going on inside us all the time. And like you said, itīs probably worse when it comes to romance if you have mars and venus in those two planets, because mars and venus show what we want and how we act in love and itīs so confusing to have these two positions, for other people and for us.
I feel like my venus in scorpio is what I really want and love, but my mars in libra is stopping me from showing that. Itīs holding me back.

Something good about this combo however, is that we are multifasceted people, and can understand other people better, weīre not as self-focused as if we only had scorpio planets. Iīm actually grateful for my mars in libra. It keeps me a bit civilised. :P That why I wanted to defend my mars in libra in this thread.

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posted February 19, 2013 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Little Doe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by quinnlycanastro:
I'm sorry to hear that things are turning sour. You're probably right about the resentment because nothing's happened, and I do understand when you say he might consider you a tease ~ when you're not.... you can't change the fact you have a packed 1st house and a Scorpio ascendant. And if you do connect with someone through eye contact, it's going to hit them like a freight train. Scorpio asc are usually drawn to peoples eyes ~ so it' not like you can spend your life looking down at the ground.... :/ it's a hard chart to carry although you might find it gets much easier after Saturn has been through that house.

With the synastry, the problem looks to be Uranus, it's con Venus and possibly square the Moon, this can make things unstable, erratic... I can't see the degrees but I'm assuming that Saturn has been rattling around Pluto in the synastry? That would put even more pressure on things, it'll force issues to the surface so they can be dealt with, or Pluto will make a request to bury the stuff that is dead. The Jupiter/Neptune conjunction is nice though, that brings some much needed optimism and even a little faith to the table

Edit to add ~ I was talking about the composite when I referred to the synastry, or at least I assumed it was a composite.



About the composite: Yes, the venus uranus conjunction is probably adding to the instable, electryfying quality. Itīs like we canīt relax around eachother - ever. The moon square venus is however not that bad in synastry, because the two planets are both soft, so they arenīt at war with eachother. Itīs an emotional connection, Iīve read, itīs just that it gets a bit complicated, if thatīs what you mean. I feel like thatīs the case with us - we do kinda care, but itīs so hard to show it.

We do not have pluto saturn aspects, but it might be a very wide orb that doesnīt show in readings Iīve had.

I think the biggest problem in our synastry is that he puts all his warrior planets - mars, saturn and pluto in my 1st house, and theyīre all conjunct (tight) my ascendant, in scorpio. Thatīs pretty intense. And My mars in libra is freaked out by the crudeness of it. I read that 1st house mars overlays make people irritaded, at least the house person, and itīs true with me. I am irrotaded by him, but at the same time excited. However I noticed that it was worse in the beginning. Now after ayear I am learning to handle it, but he still bugs me! And I bug him. And we donīt even know eachother!

I heard that his pluto in my 1st house can make him manipulative, and I have found that to be true. I feel like he objectifies me, like he at one point was possesive of me. And if I donīt live up to his standards he resents me. I even find him rolling his eyes when he sees me at times, for unknown reasons. Other times he looks at me with this intensity, like heīs trying to read my mind.

About my chart:
When exactly will saturn transit throught that house? Soon I hope. Why do you say that itīs a difficult chart? Do you mean because of all the scorpio, or the aspects, or something else. You are right indeed, I find it to be very heavy. Iīve had a hard life, and my sensitivity makes it even worse.

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posted February 19, 2013 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Little Doe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hikoro:
i dont think it is the mars in libra at all...
in synastry, you do have mars in libra square his cancer moon and his moon opposing your sun. maybe this has to do with it?
you have trined moons, and your mars sextiles his venus.

i think you are mirroring each other, imo.
this is not unusual among folks with a lot of scorpio...
there is like this...game...going on, very subtle. both waiting to see which one will 'fall' first...when will this person show his/her true colors...waiting for that person to 'fail the test'....
and underneath, there is such an electrifying intensity that one mistakes as fear of the other...but in reality, it is just intensity.

i dont know if im explaining it well but...i have a scorpio stellium and, ive had the same thing happening to me, with other scorpio stelliums only.



You are very right, there is a a game going on, and itīs not even subtile, itīs in our face all the time.. :/ So exausting.. But I also feel that we understand eachother in a subconcious way. We have a connection, even if itīs difficulta nd even creepy at times.

His cancer moon opposes my sun, and that is difficult too, but I know couples with this aspect that are very passionate and stable. I think itīs a binding aspect. It makes people gravitate towords eachother, even if they feel like they are wrong for one another. Possibly a fatal attraction aspect?

We do not have moon square mars in synastry, if we do itīs a very wide orb, and I donīt count that. But his moon in cancer does create trouble, just because heīs sensitive, so he has a hard time being a "man" and pursuing a woman. And if he indeed did like me he must have felt frustrated, because Iīm the kind of person who woīt pursue the guy, but wait, or let it be.

My mars sextile his venus is good, but I donīt think itīs that powerful amon the other aspects we have.

One very worrying aspect to me is that we have a tight venus opposition chiron. Iīm the venus and heīs chiron. To make it worse, I have this aspect in my chart, so I feel like I have a wounded femininity. I also feel unlovable. His chiron opposing my venus could really hurt me, right?
However, I also find that when I have this aspect with a man - I can feel his chiron nurturing my femininity. When he looks at me I feel like a woman, even if I never usually do. HOWEVER, when he rolls his eyes - he might as well stab me right through my already bleeding heart.

I have a question: Does anyone know how venus opposition chiron works? I heard that with the opposition - the two planets can actually switch, and sometimes the venus person takes the role of chiron and vice versa. Is that tru you think? If so - is it the same thing with moon opposition sun?

PS. I want to add that I think the teasing aspect, among other things, is because his mars sextiles my neptune.

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posted February 19, 2013 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Little Doe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also - I checked out what astro.com had to say about our synastry, and it says that the keyword of our relationship is durability? Anyone seeing any signs of durability here, because I donīt, except maybe the moon signs being compatible.

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posted February 19, 2013 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for quinnlycanastro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The saturn/pluto aspects ~ pluto in the composite is being transited by Saturn. Saturn will take about two years to go through your first house and you'll have your saturn returns in this time.

Saturn transiting pluto usually indicates a make or break time whether it's a relationship, job or whatever. It says that it's time to regenerate or move on.

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posted February 19, 2013 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anno_lucis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm aries-scorp dominant with a 7h mars and i relate to op a lot. you gotta stand your ground more tho cos if scorp mars (wrongfully) mistakes kindness for weakness he will prey on it. same goes for anyone rly

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