posted February 20, 2013 01:26 AM              

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
They are perverts.

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posted February 20, 2013 01:29 AM            

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Originally posted by swampys:
I'd like to know some Plutonian traits. What are they like in romantic situations and in relationships? How do they act around other people? Do they like intellectual activities? Are they sexual?

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But if they are NOT into you:

posted February 20, 2013 01:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
But if they are NOT into you:

They will most probably be very normal,totally disinterested people that won't bother much about your existence.

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posted February 20, 2013 01:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
well, no one can figure out the games that we play so they are 'intellectual actvities' aren't they?

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2 strong Plutonians..fun times..sort of a chess match...either wild attraction or..not healthy at all.

posted February 20, 2013 01:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
@swampys

What aspects do pluto make in your chart? and which house is it placed?

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posted February 20, 2013 01:39 AM              

Plutonian people are created from a deep wounding. The deep, soul shattering wounding happens when we are still an infant, maybe even before we are born. Plutonian people are born into plutonian environment. Most of the time, the Plutonian child was not wanted or planned. There is usually a deep sense of resentment, negligence or family secret tied to Plutonian children. The Plutonion child usually stands for something which the family refuses to face. The energy of it all is felt when we are still in the womb.

The wounding is usually in the nature of very early emotional, physical abandonment, power struggles, sexual and physical abuse. The most painful part of it all is the perpetrator of these energies is done by the same people who were to look after and nurture us. This makes the wounding cut that much deeper and felt that much sharper.

Ironically; Plutonian are born hardwired with a built in defense system. The system detects ******** , lying and can cut through the deep motivations and intentions of people’s hearts. Most of the time this defense system does not sit well with the Plutonian environment of the broken and the neglected child; so in order to survive the child learns to hide their true feelings and senses and learns to either suppress them or use them to create a whole inner realm which they can only escape to.

The energy is contained within the child’s inner realm can become too intense. The intensity can be best explained by understanding what Pluto stands for. Pluto in Greek Mythology is ruled by Hades- god of the underworld. It rules, intense power struggles in all areas of life, either sexual domination or suppression – sex is seen as a tool for Plutonians; not to mention plays into much of power struggles in relationships. Death in the literal, emotional, psychological and spiritual levels as well as the much needed energy of transformation and healing. With all the darkness of the energy also comes with the redemption of healing and transforming and using the power granted by Pluto for positive means.

A child that is not allowed to own and express their Plutonian power has a higher risk of being taken over by these intense energies with a deep sense of pain, isolation and depression because as they grow up these energies that are still not understood and accepted by society and families.

Most Plutonions are deep thinkers and can sense and detect what really lies under anything. Because of the laserlike intensity to be able to see things what it is and accept it without any hindrances; Plutonions have very few friends. But the friends they do have matters.

Plutonions exude intensity, unspoken allure and sexuality. In relationships; they will always play with power struggles in all areas; however if the intentions of the partner is seen by the Plutonion as caring and honest Plutonions can learn to share their power and even learn to accept their partners power.

Intuition and even psychic ability can run deep within a Plutonion and they are always confronted with the need for intimacy yet afraid of losing their autonomy.
Plutonions need for intimacy and autonomy creates inner conflict. From a young age; there will always be the lure of belonging to a group; to be understood and accepted but almost always the environment is unwilling to accept the intense probing and truth revealing behaviors of Plutonions. As the famous Swiss psychologist Carl Jung stated that one can really never be part of a group and be an individual. One must choose. Carl must have been a Plutonion.

posted February 20, 2013 01:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
2 strong Plutonians..fun times..sort of a chess match...either wild attraction or..not healthy at all.

When two strong plutonians are in to each other..uhm..may make the papers for all the wrong reasons.

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hmmm..yes...but one of them has to let the other 'win' And am sure a plutonian guy will expect the girl to do that. Pluto can also be mean and insensitive...

posted February 20, 2013 01:45 AM            

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Originally posted by peregrine:
What it’s like being a Plutonian-

Plutonian people are created from a deep wounding. The deep, soul shattering wounding happens when we are still an infant, maybe even before we are born. Plutonian people are born into plutonian environment. Most of the time, the Plutonian child was not wanted or planned. There is usually a deep sense of resentment, negligence or family secret tied to Plutonian children. The Plutonion child usually stands for something which the family refuses to face. The energy of it all is felt when we are still in the womb.

The wounding is usually in the nature of very early emotional, physical abandonment, power struggles, sexual and physical abuse. The most painful part of it all is the perpetrator of these energies is done by the same people who were to look after and nurture us. This makes the wounding cut that much deeper and felt that much sharper.

Ironically; Plutonian are born hardwired with a built in defense system. The system detects ******** , lying and can cut through the deep motivations and intentions of people’s hearts. Most of the time this defense system does not sit well with the Plutonian environment of the broken and the neglected child; so in order to survive the child learns to hide their true feelings and senses and learns to either suppress them or use them to create a whole inner realm which they can only escape to.

The energy is contained within the child’s inner realm can become too intense. The intensity can be best explained by understanding what Pluto stands for. Pluto in Greek Mythology is ruled by Hades- god of the underworld. It rules, intense power struggles in all areas of life, either sexual domination or suppression – sex is seen as a tool for Plutonians; not to mention plays into much of power struggles in relationships. Death in the literal, emotional, psychological and spiritual levels as well as the much needed energy of transformation and healing. With all the darkness of the energy also comes with the redemption of healing and transforming and using the power granted by Pluto for positive means.

A child that is not allowed to own and express their Plutonian power has a higher risk of being taken over by these intense energies with a deep sense of pain, isolation and depression because as they grow up these energies that are still not understood and accepted by society and families.

Most Plutonions are deep thinkers and can sense and detect what really lies under anything. Because of the laserlike intensity to be able to see things what it is and accept it without any hindrances; Plutonions have very few friends. But the friends they do have matters.

Plutonions exude intensity, unspoken allure and sexuality. In relationships; they will always play with power struggles in all areas; however if the intentions of the partner is seen by the Plutonion as caring and honest Plutonions can learn to share their power and even learn to accept their partners power.

Intuition and even psychic ability can run deep within a Plutonion and they are always confronted with the need for intimacy yet afraid of losing their autonomy.
Plutonions need for intimacy and autonomy creates inner conflict. From a young age; there will always be the lure of belonging to a group; to be understood and accepted but almost always the environment is unwilling to accept the intense probing and truth revealing behaviors of Plutonions. As the famous Swiss psychologist Carl Jung stated that one can really never be part of a group and be an individual. One must choose. Carl must have been a Plutonion.

Betrayal and trust are the same sides of a coin for Plutonians. Not disclosing information is seen as betrayal. Trust is always earned; yet Plutonions are the most loyal once they deem you trustworthy.

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posted February 20, 2013 01:48 AM            

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Originally posted by peregrine:
What it’s like being a Plutonian-

Plutonian people are created from a deep wounding. The deep, soul shattering wounding happens when we are still an infant, maybe even before we are born. Plutonian people are born into plutonian environment. Most of the time, the Plutonian child was not wanted or planned. There is usually a deep sense of resentment, negligence or family secret tied to Plutonian children. The Plutonion child usually stands for something which the family refuses to face. The energy of it all is felt when we are still in the womb.

The wounding is usually in the nature of very early emotional, physical abandonment, power struggles, sexual and physical abuse. The most painful part of it all is the perpetrator of these energies is done by the same people who were to look after and nurture us. This makes the wounding cut that much deeper and felt that much sharper.

Ironically; Plutonian are born hardwired with a built in defense system. The system detects ******** , lying and can cut through the deep motivations and intentions of people’s hearts. Most of the time this defense system does not sit well with the Plutonian environment of the broken and the neglected child; so in order to survive the child learns to hide their true feelings and senses and learns to either suppress them or use them to create a whole inner realm which they can only escape to.

The energy is contained within the child’s inner realm can become too intense. The intensity can be best explained by understanding what Pluto stands for. Pluto in Greek Mythology is ruled by Hades- god of the underworld. It rules, intense power struggles in all areas of life, either sexual domination or suppression – sex is seen as a tool for Plutonians; not to mention plays into much of power struggles in relationships. Death in the literal, emotional, psychological and spiritual levels as well as the much needed energy of transformation and healing. With all the darkness of the energy also comes with the redemption of healing and transforming and using the power granted by Pluto for positive means.

A child that is not allowed to own and express their Plutonian power has a higher risk of being taken over by these intense energies with a deep sense of pain, isolation and depression because as they grow up these energies that are still not understood and accepted by society and families.

Most Plutonions are deep thinkers and can sense and detect what really lies under anything. Because of the laserlike intensity to be able to see things what it is and accept it without any hindrances; Plutonions have very few friends. But the friends they do have matters.

Plutonions exude intensity, unspoken allure and sexuality. In relationships; they will always play with power struggles in all areas; however if the intentions of the partner is seen by the Plutonion as caring and honest Plutonions can learn to share their power and even learn to accept their partners power.

Intuition and even psychic ability can run deep within a Plutonion and they are always confronted with the need for intimacy yet afraid of losing their autonomy.
Plutonions need for intimacy and autonomy creates inner conflict. From a young age; there will always be the lure of belonging to a group; to be understood and accepted but almost always the environment is unwilling to accept the intense probing and truth revealing behaviors of Plutonions. As the famous Swiss psychologist Carl Jung stated that one can really never be part of a group and be an individual. One must choose. Carl must have been a Plutonion.

Betrayal and trust are the same sides of a coin for Plutonians. Not disclosing information is seen as betrayal. Trust is always earned; yet Plutonions are the most loyal once they deem you trustworthy.

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posted February 20, 2013 01:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
hmmm..yes...but one of them has to let the other 'win' And am sure a plutonian guy will expect the girl to do that. Pluto can also be mean and insensitive...

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Only a fool would ever try to allow a fellow plutonian "win"..oh my no

I'd expect it to go up another notch until the male was like "uhm..yeah..you've convinced me..you win"

Discretion being the better part of valor of course, trying to out think a plutonian influenced woman?

posted February 20, 2013 01:52 AM            

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Originally posted by swampys:
Pluto in the Fourth House 4th house
Pluto in Scorpio
Pluto Opposition Midheaven
Mercury Square Pluto
Saturn Square Pluto
Pluto Square Ascendant
Moon Trine Pluto
Mars Sextile Pluto
Uranus Sextile Pluto

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posted February 20, 2013 01:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
How do you experience the saturn square pluto aspect?

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posted February 20, 2013 01:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Only a fool would ever try to allow a fellow plutonian "win"..oh my no

I'd expect it to go up another notch until the male was like "uhm..yeah..you've convinced me..you win"

Discretion being the better part of valor of course, trying to out think a plutonian influenced woman?

Uhm..just no.

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posted February 20, 2013 01:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
How do you experience the saturn square pluto aspect?

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posted February 20, 2013 01:55 AM              

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Most of the time, the Plutonian child was not wanted or planned.

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posted February 20, 2013 01:59 AM            

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Originally posted by swampys:
I don't know.

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posted February 20, 2013 01:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
IMO, the saturnian energy has the same resilience than the plutonian energy ,and it's basically two planets that carry a lot of karma. Do you feel restricted by the society that you live in?

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posted February 20, 2013 02:03 AM            

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Originally posted by swampys:
YES!!!!!

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there you go!

posted February 20, 2013 02:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
that's why win is in quote

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Or you think you did..:P

posted February 20, 2013 02:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Or you think you did..:P

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posted February 20, 2013 02:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
there you go!

That's what I love with the square aspects, that's where the answers to our personal growth is located.

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posted February 20, 2013 02:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
hehe...you are starting to interest me...

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Hen hao kan?