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Venusian Moon
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posted February 20, 2013 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone have experience with this placement?

My bf is the pluto and i am the sun.

His pluto is in his 1st house.

My sun is in my 12th house.

What effect would this aspect have being located in these houses?


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Little Doe
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posted February 20, 2013 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Little Doe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Venusian Moon:
Anyone have experience with this placement?

My bf is the pluto and i am the sun.

His pluto is in his 1st house.

My sun is in my 12th house.

What effect would this aspect have being located in these houses?


Thanks



Iīm not sure, but I think it might bring magnetic attraction.

I have it with my crush. Iīm pluto. And my pluto is in 1st. He is the sun. We have other intense aspects too, but sun square pluto intensifies it.

I (pluto) feel a burning desire for him. And I feel calm when he is near me. If heīs far away I feel like a part of my soul is missing.

I also understand him psychologically. I donīt know him, but I can read his mind looking at his eyes, and listening to the tone of his voice.

What do you (sun) fee lfor your bf?

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mercuranian
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posted February 20, 2013 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
in time, this aspect will bring much animosity. most unpleasant. my sun in 12th makes a square to someone's 1st house pluto. i can't stand to be around them. anymore.

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Venusian Moon
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posted February 20, 2013 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mercuranian:
in time, this aspect will bring much animosity. most unpleasant. my sun in 12th makes a square to someone's 1st house pluto. i can't stand to be around them. anymore.

We have alot of other pluto aspects that are positive. U think that can balance things out?

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Venusian Moon
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posted February 20, 2013 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mercuranian:
in time, this aspect will bring much animosity. most unpleasant. my sun in 12th makes a square to someone's 1st house pluto. i can't stand to be around them. anymore.

What was it that made u not want to be around that person anymore? Did they do something bad to u?

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Venusian Moon
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posted February 20, 2013 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Little Doe:

Iīm not sure, but I think it might bring magnetic attraction.

I have it with my crush. Iīm pluto. And my pluto is in 1st. He is the sun. We have other intense aspects too, but sun square pluto intensifies it.

I (pluto) feel a burning desire for him. And I feel calm when he is near me. If heīs far away I feel like a part of my soul is missing.

I also understand him psychologically. I donīt know him, but I can read his mind looking at his eyes, and listening to the tone of his voice.

What do you (sun) fee lfor your bf?


I use to hate him now i love him and we are both obsessed. Not in a bad way though.

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Little Doe
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posted February 20, 2013 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Little Doe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Venusian Moon:
I use to hate him now i love him and we are both obsessed. Not in a bad way though.

Thatīs how my crush felt. He didnīt like me, he still sometimes has periods when he "hates" me.

What made you hate him in the beginning?
What made you suddenly love him?

I knew right away that I love him. (I also knew that Iīd hate him too, but it will be worth it, and so far itīs more love than hate, but mostly itīs obsession, in a good way on my part)

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posted February 20, 2013 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Little Doe:
Thatīs how my crush felt. He didnīt like me, he still sometimes has periods when he "hates" me.

What made you hate him in the beginning?
What made you suddenly love him?

I knew right away that I love him. (I also knew that Iīd hate him too, but it will be worth it, and so far itīs more love than hate, but mostly itīs obsession, in a good way on my part)


I felt a stalker vibe from him even though he wasnt stalking me. Lol

I was in a bad man hating mood.

He would try to talk to me and i would just walk away.


One day i saw he looked hurt so i started talking to him and realized he was funny and sweet.

He sat next to me and i felt an electric spark.


I literally went home that day and cried because i never felt that before.


Now we are inseperable.


I want him all for me!

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Little Doe
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posted February 20, 2013 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Little Doe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thatīs so sweet.

I think that this doesnīt have to be a bad aspect. It can be a binding aspect too. Yes, there will be troubles with the square, but there is an electrifying spark to this aspect, as you said, wich makes it worthwile.

I felt the spark immediately (pluto is intuitive), and immediately approached him. I could see him being repelled, I think he was getting the stalker-vibe from me too, lol.
I was NOT stalking him, more like avoiding him, but I WAS obsessed with him secretly. But in a nice way. I just knew that something special was there between us. Next thing I know - he can+t take his eyes of me.

Today he sat next to me, after having rolled his eyes at me last week.

This is a potential love/hate placement maybe? If pluto is strong in the natal charts, the people will be able to handle it andwill love it. It depends on the individual, and is not set in stone.

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mercuranian
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posted February 20, 2013 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Venusian Moon:
What was it that made u not want to be around that person anymore? Did they do something bad to u?

all i can say is, it's just a difficult energy. eventually the sun person will long to get free.

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posted February 20, 2013 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cappy1277     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a magnetic bind...the same time it creates the impulse, it can also can add repulsion. Battle of wills is indicated in synastry. Imagine wanting a hug from somebody after a bad day & pluto didn't recognize it...when he finally does recognize & does then try to hug you, you push him away. Most times when there are easy aspects with Pluto, you would welcome the hug & embrace but with the square more energy surged with your anger and now you have created an argument because he is "so insensitive...you shouldn't have waited until I said something to recognize..." It's hard to make the break but there is a lot of back & forth & on & off energy but each time you get back together it rejuvenates if not strengthen the bond that you all have. You break up to make up kind of thing....

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Venusian Moon
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posted February 20, 2013 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Little Doe:
pluto is strong in the natal charts, the people will be able to handle it andwill love it. It depends on the individual, and is not set in stone.


We have alot of pluto aspects. Mostly good and we also have mars conjunct pluto.......hot hot hot

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posted February 20, 2013 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Venusian Moon:

We have alot of pluto aspects. Mostly good and we also have mars conjunct pluto.......hot hot hot


[His natal aspects

Venus square pluto
Moon conjunct pluto
Pluto trine midheaven


[My natal aspects

Sun trine pluto
Jupiter conjunct pluto
Saturn conjunct pluto
Pluto square ascendant

synastry aspects

Moon trine pluto
Mercury trine pluto
Mars conjunct pluto
Uranus sextile pluto
Neptune square pluto
Pluto trine sun
Pluto trine saturn
Pluto conjunct uranus
Pluto sextile lilith
Pluto opposition chiron
Pluto conjunct pallas
Lilith square pluto
Chiron trine pluto
Juno square pluto


composite aspects

Venus trine pluto
Neptune sextile pluto
Pluto sextile ascendant

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EmpressMendez
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posted June 04, 2013 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

quote:
Originally posted by mercuranian:
all i can say is, it's just a difficult energy. eventually the sun person will long to get free.

This is soooo trueeee

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charlie
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posted June 04, 2013 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pluto square Sun in my own chart (and moon) and I can't ever see myself have a relationship with a Cancer or Capricorn!

ALTHOUGH, my current partner has his Pluto square my Sun..

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posted June 04, 2013 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:

This is soooo trueeee


Hmmm....I have felt claustrophobic lately (see above post).....I am hoping it goes away...

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posted June 04, 2013 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Freesia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Little Doe:

I (pluto) feel a burning desire for him. And I feel calm when he is near me. If heīs far away I feel like a part of my soul is missing.


I have exactly the same thing with my crush. I'm Pluto. It is strange that when he is near me I feel total peace within me but when apart I miss him deadly. I was also wonderig how do Sun persons feel, do they feel desire for Pluto?

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posted June 04, 2013 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Freesia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mercuranian:
in time, this aspect will bring much animosity. most unpleasant. my sun in 12th makes a square to someone's 1st house pluto. i can't stand to be around them. anymore.

I would suppose that this feeling could come from 12th house position and is not mandatory with Sun square Pluto. Can it be so?
I know that 12th house activates annoying feelings. Especially if someones Sun/Mars/Merc falls in your 12th house. But I guess that Pluto aspect to your 12th house could awake powerful irritation aswell.

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posted June 04, 2013 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Freesia:
I have exactly the same thing with my crush. I'm Pluto. It is strange that when he is near me I feel total peace within me but when apart I miss him deadly. I was also wonderig how do Sun persons feel, do they feel desire for Pluto?

I am the sun and i do feel burning desire. I hate being away from him. We dont get tired of eachother. Hes my twin. Gemini twin that is.

We have alot of pluto aspects where he and i are both pluto.

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posted June 04, 2013 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is my best interpretation from RL experience and also readings:

The Sun person will likely feel magnetically drawn and sometimes even overtly controlled or manipulated by Pluto. Pluto will see the Sun as his/her light in the darkness, or someone who he/she simply cannot stop thinking and even obsessing about. Both individuals are going to be highly drawn to one another due to a magnetic pull. Be careful of serious power plays and potential jealousy! Pluto may want to watch over the Sun closely, or Pluto may rub the Sun the wrong way by trying to get the Sun jealous... but this is a Plutonian ploy in order to increase the Sun's desire to get Pluto back from any other potential suitors. I usually find this to be accurate and that Pluto is doing these tricky tactics vs. the Sun, but it could be different in certain cases.

It appears that he may see something hidden that is special about you. Are you a little shy/introverted? Maybe he brings out a more passionately emotional and sensual side of you. I wouldn't be surprised if he was a big flirt and maybe did that around you to make you jealous. You may feel insecure about your identity in the relationship due to your 12H Sun and his control over you. He's likely to really be controlling of your identity and you likely have a sort of intuitive connection with him. This is because his Pluto makes a strong impact on his personal identity in H1; he's quite self-assured I'd think, and so assured that he can take over the image of the entire relationship if he wants to. His core/ego is strong; yours is more Neptunian and submerged. Be careful not to be overwhelmed by his ego, opinions, or manipulations about yourself, your time, and especially what you're doing with your life. He may be a great guy, but too controlling around certain things, especially as a male figure in your life. Is he a little older than you...?

Tell me how accurate I am!

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posted June 04, 2013 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Venusian Moon:
Anyone have experience with this placement?

My bf is the pluto and i am the sun.

His pluto is in his 1st house.

My sun is in my 12th house.

What effect would this aspect have being located in these houses?


Thanks


He would be a strong person with a leadership kind of persona. You would be more of a holding back kind of person who has a hard time asserting yourself.

There may be power plays which look like he will win lol

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Venusian Moon
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posted June 04, 2013 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have always been pretty emotional and sensual but i have never had someone bring it out of me so much lol!!! He is not a flirt at all. Maybe in his younger years. He wouldnt dare. Ill slap him.

He does try to get
Me jealous on purpose but not by trying stuff with other women. Almost every guy i have dated liked to bring out my jealousy purposely. They get a kick out of it.

I am naturally very jealous and possessive. He is the same as well but more calm. He is pretty suspicious. If i dont answer a text or call he assumes i am with another man.

He will be 40 years old on sunday june 8th and on june 19th i will be 31.

Hes not thst much older. He looks young. Geminis carry that trait.

I hated him at first honestly.

Hes a great guy and a great father.

We want to move in together.


Hes not controlling in telling me where to not go or anything. Just questions alot. Not agressively.

He does lecture sometimes about me drinking too much wine. Stuff like that.

Pluto in the 1st definitely has power. My 4 year old daughter has pluto in the 1st and shes the boss lol!

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Cancer asc 1st
Taurus moon 11th
Taurus venus 11th
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Ami Anne
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posted June 04, 2013 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Put up your synastry in Beginners Astrology, Venusian Moon, dear.

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Venusian Moon
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posted June 04, 2013 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Put up your synastry in Beginners Astrology, Venusian Moon, dear.


Just did now

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Ami Anne
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posted June 04, 2013 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok SWeetie
I will look tomorrow! xx

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