posted February 22, 2013 11:35 AM              

i have no air. i dislike travel for the sake of travel and it's a point of resntment for me lately. i always thought it was a chick thing anyway. eat, pray, love.

posted February 22, 2013 11:52 AM            

"That's right, and they are likely to have difficulty with intellectuals, or with the education system, or with people who are experts in their field, while seeking to be respected for their intelligence and ideas themselves. An air complex is likely to be fanatical, opinionated and rigid. Or they may well try to do their thinking by using one of the other elements, which is not the same thing as true air. For example, there may be a passionate drive or desire to communicate (fire acting as air), particularly strong feelings about relationships or social issues (water acting as air), or an obsession to objectively prove one's intellectual ability to the world by learning several languages or gaining several degrees or doctorates (earth functioning as air), none of which are ultimately the same thing as the thinking function itself, which is cool and logical and rational. All of these functions masquerade as the air function, but none of them is capable of genuinely replacing or truly compensating for the lack of air in the chart. But if we are comfortable with our intellects, we don't need to prove our intelligence to the outside world." http://www.astro.com/mtp/mtpt92_e.htm

And yeah, your guy definitely shows some regenerative qualities! Pluto conjunct Ascendant (physical body) in Scorp.. Also, his 8th house ruler, Mercury, is conjunct his Ascendant and Pluto (and Sun and Saturn), as well. He probably has a very powerful presence!

I've noticed a lot of venus in the 11th house people meet their mates through friends, or through the Internet.

posted February 22, 2013 12:04 PM              

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Originally posted by starfairy:
"That's right, and they are likely to have difficulty with intellectuals, or with the education system, or with people who are experts in their field, while seeking to be respected for their intelligence and ideas themselves. An air complex is likely to be fanatical, opinionated and rigid. Or they may well try to do their thinking by using one of the other elements, which is not the same thing as true air. For example, there may be a passionate drive or desire to communicate (fire acting as air), particularly strong feelings about relationships or social issues (water acting as air), or an obsession to objectively prove one's intellectual ability to the world by learning several languages or gaining several degrees or doctorates (earth functioning as air), none of which are ultimately the same thing as the thinking function itself, which is cool and logical and rational. All of these functions masquerade as the air function, but none of them is capable of genuinely replacing or truly compensating for the lack of air in the chart. But if we are comfortable with our intellects, we don't need to prove our intelligence to the outside world." http://www.astro.com/mtp/mtpt92_e.htm

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this is true. it's not really logic i use but intuition. i trace back decisions if it needs logic which is why i hate having to answer for them.

posted February 22, 2013 12:24 PM              

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Originally posted by Orange:
You lack air and dislike travelling? Do you like girls with air in their charts or you feel uncomfortable around them? What does Venus, your 7th house ruler, do in your chart?
I have Moon, Venus and Uranus in air and i love travelling more than any other leasure activities.

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living somewhere foreign. foreign people. but the short trip no.

i love air in women. i think writers appeal to me very much also verbal magpies. i'm never uncomfortable around women hehe! woooosh! my 7th house ruler IS venus. it does a lot. my venus is highly aspected. it conjuncts mercury for one.

you also progress and i'm gemini sun and venus right now. he wouldn't be though. perhaps sag. picked up a lot of verbal abilities with this progression. all totally useless lol but i'm sure they would be useful someday.

posted February 22, 2013 12:32 PM            

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Originally posted by peregrine:
node is in gem too but then so is chiron.

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what are you trying to say, now. I hate chiron.

btw, his NNode is on my Moon and IC

posted February 23, 2013 08:12 AM            

Apart from my home country, I’ve lived in 3 different countries and love it.

posted February 24, 2013 09:49 PM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
Sorry for hijacking the thread but I’m actually curious to hear people’s experience and thoughts on air void. I have no air in my chart and can’t relate to the article on astro.com.

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One of my friends annoys me a bit because every time she falls in love with a guy, she would describe him to me as being "smart, academic brains, mathematicians, genius of kind, incredibly clever, currently studying for his second Ph.D.", etc. ...
it seems she likes to be associated with highly educated people and she has a thing for geniuses. She works at the State University as an administrator and she has no degree. She never really went to college to study.. She has NO planets in air. Not even the Nodes, zilch air.

posted February 24, 2013 10:33 PM            

I love travel and intellectuals and academics...

lacking an element isn't so simple as blahblahblah... sorry but that's what they seem to say here~

regardless of having planets there you have AIR Houses, by natural order, and you can have planets in those natural AIR houses that will help to compensate, then you have your own natal AIR houses which are still a part of you~ whether or not you have anything falling in them.

I would say it comes down to planetary involvement here~ the rulers of each house both traditional and in your own natal.

I may have no Air, but I do have extremely dominant Mercury, and 3rd house (natural ruler - Gemini).

academics however is represented by Gemini (naturally) and it's polar opposite, Sagittarius (9th house).

I'm Sagittarius dominant, Jupiter is my 2nd most dominant planet... it's not so simple, ya' see?

As for the void, I have no planets in these signs... but I do have a lot of duads under Libra, and MC in Gemini, Vertex in Aquarius, and North Node in Gemini. Not just that, but looking at progression, I am triple air big 3 (for the time being)Aqua Sun, Gemini Moon, and Libra Rising.

lack of respect for academics, and a lack of interest in intellectuals and intellectual activity would be a better studied matter by aspect and by looking over the entire chart, inside and out. Not just explicitly to the "void", you'd be surprised how many "voidians" actually do have things going on in the elements they are seemingly /lacking/. Giving equal attention to all those factors, I'm afraid I don't really see voids the same as many peers, I suppose. But, I especially dislike the way this "Clare" has interpreted the voids. air doesn't need to "act as fire", or "fire act as air"... they are two sides of the same damn spectrum, and /should/ be viewed as such... nobody is acting... they simply have something in their placements in likely both element that brings that out.. when it is stifled in someone I would look to the intruding aspects to the planets and nodes, not to the so-called "void", for the fault. Air expresses itself as the other side of Fire, and vs/vs, (you can say then, what if the person has everything "seemingly' in one element - but they likely do not... because of the axes... and that's discounting other calculated and astral bodies...) We ALL have things in each element... it's just a matter of taking them into account.

I'm "air void" then... yes... but, I have big 3 Earth, and Water dominance, (followed by fire), I'm a cardinal sun, with mutable dominance... if astrology to figure these things out isn't simple, why would voids me, eh?!

-- to the topic... XD

I enjoy pain, I've been dealing with my masochistic "urges" (shall we say), for years... I've felt it has to do with my Scorpion and Capricorn placements to the Moon... I just do not "feel" or succumb to pain as easily as is usually deemed "normal".
Capricorn and Saturn will give you a tough skin, especially with Saturn in Water, and opposite the Moon... my sensitivities are of a different variety, then physical pain... Mars cnj Pluto (again in Scorpio) can give the drive/compulsion to find release or enjoyment in... well... the more exotic of taboo of activities... (I also have Sun in Capricorn, trining that lovely Taurus Moon exact, sorta' like having two goats hugging a bull LOL -and it just can't escape!)...

So, enjoyment (or obsession)^^- I think Neptune, Pluto, and Mars should be inspected - but...
for endurance - Saturn, and Moon aspects... Saturn in Water, and Moon in Earth (playing on the opposition of elements at the least)...