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posted February 23, 2013 02:03 AM            

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I have two things happening right now that I feel are karmic debt related to each other. One is my obsession with a man that I have a strong venus square pluto aspect. I'm the venus. The other is a past love who I hurt and has come back to tell me that I have basically ruined his life for the past 12 years. I don't know what it all means or how I repair it, but I would appreciate anyones help.

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posted February 23, 2013 02:43 AM            

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Just out of curiosity - who is the pluto and who is the venus? I am fascinated by these aspects

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posted February 23, 2013 03:07 AM            

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I'm venus and he's pluto

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posted February 23, 2013 03:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Trined&Squared:
I'm venus and he's pluto

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What signs are your Venus and his Pluto in?

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posted February 23, 2013 03:30 AM            

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I'm venus in Leo. He's venus in Scorpio with a natal pluto conjunct Scorp

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posted February 23, 2013 03:42 AM            

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Gosh, how does ya'lls obsession attraction go - both ways? Does he feel the same? Seeing he has venus/pluto natal with all that scorpio, I can't see how he isn't highly into you, must be lots of passion between you two?

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posted February 23, 2013 03:50 AM            

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Yes its very passionate. He's very controlling, manipulative and jealous with me. It feels borderline love/hate and abusive though. Sometimes it feels he only wants me for sex. It also feels like the whole thing could fall apart any minute. But we keep coming back to each other even when we are in other relationships. This has been going on for two years. He's done crazy things like stalked me online, called me from blocked numbers and pretended to be someone else. It feels very volatile and thats why I also say probably karmic.

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posted February 23, 2013 04:16 AM            

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I am no tarot reader, or even a reader of synastry..but, I will say that is DEF how it goes with venus/pluto goes - it def depends on how mature,how that person handles their venus/pluto...I have that as well, Im barely learning how to get a handle on it. This type of relationship that when its good its good the highest high you can feel w/this person. When its bad,its bad the worst you can feel..fights are volatile,even if both ppl aren't verbally aggressive or anything. I dont think its karmic. You just met someone that you have venus/pluto with. This type of relationship that will change both of you, one you will never forget, its gonna be profound for both of you.

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posted February 23, 2013 04:29 AM            

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Ugh. Thank you. Its unhealthy, I don't see how I can handle much more. I had another venus/pluto same leo/scorpio, but it was never this bad.

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posted February 23, 2013 04:34 AM            

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ya, they are hard the last guy I dated we had venus conj. pluto I have that natally. We also had venus opp.pluto and he had that natally. So we had it so much, and let me tell you- it was a Lifetime movie I dated another venus/pluto him and I both had venus conj. pluto so both were very intense relationships. My problem is I have to have that INSTANT BANG attraction when I first meet someone that minute literally if I don't I won't consider or date that man...that is why I am always in some sort of unhealthy relationship. Honestly, best way to overcome this and be done with it - is meet someone else who can blow this person out of the water, but if your like me & only want that instant bang, boom attraction its probably gonna be with another venus/pluto relationship..ugh

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posted February 23, 2013 04:38 AM            

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Hmm interesting. Actually I have Saturn transiting my 5th house, so I'm starting to appreciate stable love. I know that boom attraction doesn't last, so I am learning to love a calmer way. But if it did happen again that strong, I am sure I couldn't pass it up.

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posted February 23, 2013 10:48 AM            

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Still wondering though? Is it karmic debt?

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posted February 23, 2013 10:49 AM            

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I have no idea - depends on what happened with the past lover what the situation was and what was done exactly...

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posted February 23, 2013 10:59 AM            

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Hello TrinedandSquared! Welcome to LL

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"For all those who believe, expect a miracle.”
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posted February 23, 2013 12:22 PM            

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thanks lalalinda!

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posted February 23, 2013 12:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Trined&Squared:
Hmm interesting. Actually I have Saturn transiting my 5th house, so I'm starting to appreciate stable love. I know that boom attraction doesn't last, so I am learning to love a calmer way. But if it did happen again that strong, I am sure I couldn't pass it up.

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i think passion can last- it just needs to be based on less on novelty and friction and mre on a deep spiritual connection and physically completeness- like if yo ufeel complete with someone once you always will i believe- if you combine that to similar values and attitudes etc you CANfind both- it is hard but possible

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