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mockingbird
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posted February 23, 2013 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And I just noticed that my Neptune's trine his Mars/Venus conj and conjunct his Moon.

It's funny that I'd never looked at those before.

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posted February 23, 2013 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well.....I am the Pluto. My Pluto squares my Sun, Moon and Mercury. His Planets square my Sun, Venus, Mercury, ceres, Saturn.

My fiancee' has Sun, Venus, Mercury, Eros, Uranus, Lilith conjunct my Pluto.

Also, he has NO water, I have an Air singleton, Pluto and mostly Water. He has an Earth Singleton, Pluto, and only Air.

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posted February 23, 2013 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thundered     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For some reason I can't edit to add this to my other comment but-

I just realised that this aspect I have with this other person has both of our Junos involved (my Pluto conj his Juno to his Venus conj. my Juno). Interpret that as you will

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posted February 24, 2013 02:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've become super curious about this aspect as well..

I've met someone who's Venus is conjunct my Pluto (and his natally, so he has this with everyone in our age group) and yeah it was an instant intense attraction I've never really had before, and I could basically fall hard and try to pursue this, but I'm stopping myself now because I can already see how things would most likely play out lol

Then I recently looked up the synastry I have with this guy who I met several years ago while living out of state (yet another Cancer with Gemini Venus that I met and was somewhat involved with before knowing much about astrology, seriously???) Anyway my Venus squares his Pluto almost exact, and it's been at least 3 years, but he recently got in contact with me again and he now literally texts me every single day, and always wants to turn the conversation into something sexual even though I see no point in that at all for obvious reasons..

So anyway, it is definitely an interesting aspect

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posted February 24, 2013 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For what it's worth, my charts have:

Synastry: Venus Conjunct Pluto, and Venus Trine Pluto.

Composite: Venus Square Pluto.

Natals: Venus Trine Pluto. Venus Conjunct Pluto.

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posted February 24, 2013 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sharpei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ that sounds like... a good match to say the least!

ok so how do these aspects differ from square to conjunction to trine etc for venus pluto contacts in synastry?

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posted February 24, 2013 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's the thing - in composite, we also have Pluto sextile Neptune (like just about everyone), Pluto square Moon, Pluto square Jupiter, and Pluto opp Merc.

I just don't see that in our relationship, though O_o

I mean, it can be intense, but not as explosive as I'd guess with those aspects.

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posted February 24, 2013 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sharpei:
^^ that sounds like... a good match to say the least!

ok so how do these aspects differ from square to conjunction to trine etc for venus pluto contacts in synastry?


I have no idea!!

The charts are here.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/002836.html

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posted February 24, 2013 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mockingbird:
I mean, it can be intense, but not as explosive as I'd guess with those aspects.

What's the difference between intense and explosive anyway? lol The only thing explosive is the temper lol just kidding

If it works, it works! Don't question and don't doubt. He sounds like an amazing husband. You are blessed!

And don't think that we don't debate and argue. It's never all roses and chocolates all the time. But 20 years coming up soon.

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posted February 24, 2013 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, no - don't get me wrong.
I wasn't complaining (quite the opposite), just wondering about many traditional interpretations of the aspects.

I mean, with Pluto opp Merc in composite, I'd expect it to be like Thunderdome but it's pretty far away from that.
We rarely argue, and when we do it's, "I'm/you're upset - let's talk about this," rather than, "GAAHHH! DESTROY!"
Perhaps that's where it comes in - when our passions are roused, our Merc's activated and we discuss...it just seems odd for an opposition.

And I just *don't* see a square with the Moon.
We have very deep, passionate feelings as you'd expect with any contact, but not the irreconcilable conflict you might expect from a square.

And he is a wonderful husband
I truly am blessed.

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posted February 24, 2013 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iliketurtles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my humble experience it was, either deliberately or inadvertently, *venus* who was the troublemaker. Venus is just a little minx whichever way you put it. I have been both in synastry. As the venus person, I felt pursued. Not once did i ever feel "consumed" or "obsessed" with the pluto. For me the intensity came directly from the pluto person - I wasn't capable of that and I wasn't sure what to do about it, it felt so foreign to me. I feel like the pluto person sees the venus person as some sort of come hither object. I liked him but he went all peacocky on me and I remember not really getting it. Thats how I experienced it anyway.

As the pluto person I felt I was being strung along by the venus person. I was absolutely obsessed with him but he was pretty shallow about me. I wanted everything or nothing at all but he never felt wanted anything deep or meaningful from me. His interest in me was purely cosmetic and shallow. The only time I felt as if i was being taken over was when I was the pluto.

[EDIT] I've always believed that the venus person in any synastry aspect will act in a venusian way and the pluto will act in a plutonian way but it's not going to be one way for everybody. IMO (harsh) venus/pluto contacts in synastry just flat out produces obssessive, compulsive energies. The relationship would be slightly different if that aspect was not there. Noone can really say for sure it's venus or pluto or feel it more because it's clear people have experienced it differently. It's just the energy is there and thats that. I do feel it's wrong to say the venus is the one who gets carried away just because it is the softer planet. If venus is not interested in pluto then being infatuated or consumed ends up completely off the cards. Venus is capable of staying in control too. It isn't comletely naive and stupid and it's not going to go cuckoo everytime there is potential for complusion just because it is the planet of love and fairies.

I guess reciprocated, balanced attraction and mutual understanding are the dealbreakers in how ugly or pleasant things will get between venus and pluto in synastry.

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posted December 07, 2017 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AquaLeo29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is interesting! All aspects to these four planets: Moon, Venus, Neptune and Pluto.

HER - HIM

Venus sextile Neptune
Moon conjunct Neptune
Venus trine Pluto

Neptune conjunct Moon
Neptune opposite Venus
Pluto sextile Moon
Pluto trine Venus

DW!!

I guess both are reciprocating each other’s intense feelings. I think this works well for them, the power is balanced.

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posted December 08, 2017 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally i find Mars-Pluto hotter. It goes beyond passive(Venus) obsession(Pluto). One is compelled(Pluto)to act(Mars) and go after what they want. I like that. One must act.

For instance i have had Venus-Pluto conjunct with someone. And there was always some mind games and inexplicable complications in us getting together.

I wouldn't say I was obsessed(me Venus) nor was he(Pluto). But we wanted each other and feared each other all at once. And it seemed the more I pressed, the more elusive he became.

I think perhaps there wasn't enough pulling him to me because i wouldn't blame it all on Pluto. Pluto zooms in, latches on and never lets go. So his Mars-Uranus-Saturn conjunct had him be inconsistent perhaps?

Mars is really ime the propensity for a guy to act. And I have a very wide out of sign conjunction with Pluto. So I acted on him. But he didn't reciprocate. So my Mars in Libra pulled back.

Pluto-Mars on the other hand gets down to the business at hand and wastes no time in pussyfooting around.

I have had 4 Mars-Pluto contacts with people and there was mutual attraction that got very sexual very quickly.

One Libra had Mars in Cancer widely conjunct my natal Moon square my natal Mars and square my natal Pluto.

I had my Mars conjunct his Sun and conjunct his Pluto.
Pluto conjunct and parallel Mars and we still lock eyes from the corners of the room.

The only thing that spoiled it for us was his incredibly dodgy nature. He also has Sun/Pluto conjunct and with my Neptune-Sun, I didn't want to have to be the "victim".

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posted December 08, 2017 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This also belongs in Interpersonal Astrology. Moving it there.

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