posted February 23, 2013 02:25 PM            

I just want everyone to see more for the star I really am!

I have a Virgo ascendant, Capricorn sun, Saturn in the fifth house, retrograde Mars in Cancer, and Chiron in Leo retrograde. My Mars also opposes Neptune and my Capricorn mercury is conjunct my sun.

How do I use these placements for the better?

Here are the negatives of these placements:

posted February 23, 2013 02:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I have chiron in leo.
I don't care so much for being in the "spot light".
Nor do I feel that I don't receive enough attention.
I think I receive enough attention from people sometimes I want my privacy.
It always seem to find me thou, especially drama.

You can have my attention and drama.

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posted February 23, 2013 02:58 PM            

saturn in 5th house does block creativity and being recognised for the star that we are.

i dont know- i feel like whoever gets recognition deserves it genearlly- i try not to resent people who get recognition because what if it makes them happy

even if they dont ''deserve'' it by your measurements i feel it is meanspirited to want to deny someone the spotlight and happiness because they dont meet your criteria of deservedness.

i feel like it would help if rather than being bitter you were happy and took joy in others achievements you know, if you limit other people you also end up limiting yourself

i feel like if you just keep doing the right thing without being attached to the consequences you will eventually get what makes you happy- but what makes you happy may not be what you think it is.

posted February 23, 2013 03:09 PM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
If you want to, you can post a pic of your chart and I can try to give a more in-depth look at it to help you.

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posted February 23, 2013 03:13 PM            

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Originally posted by TaurusInParticles:
Since you are a Virgo rising, I assume Chiron in Leo is in your 12th house. If that's the case, I would attribute this position to your frustration. The 12th house is sometimes called the house of self-destruction or self-undoing; Chiron is the wound that will not heal; Leo, of course, is the sign of self-expression. Combining all of these facets together, I'm thinking that your undoing or self-destruction will happen because you keeping trying to heal your wound in Leo by achieving recognition. In other words, you are setting yourself up to be let down. I also have Chiron in Leo and I know how hard it is to submit to the pain this placement causes but if can manage to detach and make this placement work for you, I'm sure you will find satisfaction

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posted February 23, 2013 03:29 PM            

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Originally posted by sharpei:
caps are not really interested in recognition usually- more security and status and with that comes recognition.

saturn in 5th house does block creativity and being recognised for the star that we are.

i dont know- i feel like whoever gets recognition deserves it genearlly- i try not to resent people who get recognition because what if it makes them happy

even if they dont ''deserve'' it by your measurements i feel it is meanspirited to want to deny someone the spotlight and happiness because they dont meet your criteria of deservedness.

i feel like it would help if rather than being bitter you were happy and took joy in others achievements you know, if you limit other people you also end up limiting yourself

i feel like if you just keep doing the right thing without being attached to the consequences you will eventually get what makes you happy- but what makes you happy may not be what you think it is.

capricorn is the sign of delays and overcoming obstacles by dissolving past karma- maybe once you have dealt with your karma and learnt your lessons you will get what you seek?

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I love recognition for nearly everything, whether its for being on time somewhere or just by showing up. It sounds arrogant I know. I won't throw a fit or anything if said things go unnoticed, though.

I just place value on everything and I want others to do the same. I have no problem giving others recognition.

Even if I feel like they're undeserving of recognition I'll give it to them but in the back of my mind I'm thinking, "it's not fair".

posted February 23, 2013 03:35 PM            

Virgo rising is in the anaretic/mystical 29th degree as many astrologers have called it. To me, it's not so much mystical as it is weary and sometimes reckless in trying to take on the next sign it desperately wants to be in, without often difficult consequences as a result. You might feel particularly Virgoan in your social mask/social standing, in your initial appearances to others, and you're plainly sick of being the neat wallflower type. You want style, a little flair and something elegant and noticeable - the epitome of Libra rising. This rising is actually quite popular which ties in with your need to be noticed. It's a difficult situation without an easy answer, because, quite simply you were born with 29 Virgo ASC and not 0-1 Libra ASC. So you have to make the most of your ASC and try to shed its difficulties and force yourself to be more outgoing.

Your ASC ruler Mercury is conjunct Uranus and the Sun. It is closer to the Sun than Uranus. Sun-ASC and Sun-ASC ruler contacts most definitely indicate someone with a craving for some sort of limelight, attention and 'shine' to the personality and recognition from others. And quite often you'll get that recognition. But with the Uranus conjunct we have a difficult mix... since you might feel like you are too 'eccentric' or have eccentric circumstances that detract from your likability and shine, perhaps? Maybe relating to childhood and family conditioning, since these planets all fall in the 4th? It's a bit of a long shot but all I can make of it.

posted February 23, 2013 03:44 PM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:

Virgo rising is in the anaretic/mystical 29th degree as many astrologers have called it. To me, it's not so much mystical as it is weary and sometimes reckless in trying to take on the next sign it desperately wants to be in, without often difficult consequences as a result. You might feel particularly Virgoan in your social mask/social standing, in your initial appearances to others, and you're plainly sick of being the neat wallflower type. You want style, a little flair and something elegant and noticeable - the epitome of Libra rising. This rising is actually quite popular which ties in with your need to be noticed. It's a difficult situation without an easy answer, because, quite simply you were born with 29 Virgo ASC and not 0-1 Libra ASC. So you have to make the most of your ASC and try to shed its difficulties and force yourself to be more outgoing.

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posted February 23, 2013 03:45 PM            

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Originally posted by TaurusInParticles:
Hmmmm...would you mind posting your chart so I can see the big picture?

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posted February 23, 2013 04:17 PM            

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Originally posted by TaurusInParticles:
Sun in Capricorn and Venus is Pisces make me think your standards are too high, almost to the point of disillusion. This could be a placement that results in a lot of drive and determination, however your Mars is in passive Cancer.Leo in the 11th house implies that your self worth is determined by how others perceive you. Adding Chiron to this makes the situation more painful and emotonal

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