posted February 24, 2013 06:03 PM            

I know someone who is compulsively trying to have an "enviable" life. They are doing some pretty outrageous things that they don't even enjoy doing simply to get attention & more popularity.

It seems to me like they would sell their soul to the devil for more FB friends.. and it's not just because they want to be "liked".. but they want the people around them to be instigated/angered - and to envy them.

As an example... take a woman who just got engaged and is showing off her $10 000 ring to her friends. It's one thing to be happy that you're engaged and happy you received an expensive ring and wanting to share that with the world.
And perhaps it can be a popularity thing or just 'showing off' because you are proud of where you are at, at that point in time and proud of your fiancee and who he is as a person.
Some of this may be considered "vain" ^^ but it is not malicious from my perspective..

However, lets say in the same situation - the girl shows off her ring, not because she is happy, not because she is in love, not because she is proud that she received a really cool expensive ring --- but *because* --- she wants to anger and upset someone else. Lets say she has two single friends who she has a problem with - and she intently wants to upset these two girls and make them feel envious and angry.

What I am asking is - what gives someone such a passionate drive to make others envious?

The person I know who is like this (not a woman by the way).... seems to have NO life.. NO joy.. NO happiness.. Their sole goal is to anger others around them & in particular to make these people envious.
It's as though they get some kind of energy out of this.. like their life and who they are is more meaningful and 'worth while' if other people envy them.

posted February 24, 2013 06:08 PM            

Personally, the first thing that comes to mind is Pluto and/or Venus afflicted, not sure why, but I think these two (especially together) could make someone want to be envied.

posted February 24, 2013 06:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:

hikoro - I'm not sure about Leo because they seem to be 'show offs' for popularity... not so much 'show offs' to hurt others.

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but...why would 'hurting' others be relevant?
if someone is showing off to be envied, anybody may get hurt or not by his/her action.
so, i find it bizarre to analyze how one would know if that person is doing it intentially to hurt others...
that is, i think that the 'hurting' others is very relative, and depends on the audience.
some people may feel offended, others wouldnt care.

posted February 24, 2013 06:20 PM            

I come from a superstitious Italian family and my grandmother put these red bands around my wrist to ward off the evil eye because I was a beautiful and healthy baby.

Envy is also associated with the seven deadly sins.

posted February 24, 2013 06:28 PM            

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some people may feel offended, others wouldnt care.

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They intentionally pick and trigger people who *do* care - people who have low self-esteem.

They completely feed off on this.
It's something that brings joy to their heart for whatever reason.

I'll give you another example.. Lets say a person who is a billionaire intentionally walks through a bad/poor neighbourhood and starts telling everyone left right and centre that they have SO MUCH money and their lives are sooooo awesome.
Or lets say they walk through a trailer park - talking to people who do not even have homes... and start telling those people how they own three different holiday houses in Europe.

Clearly ^^ in that kind of situation - it is much more likely for these poor people to feel upset/angry and envious over that.

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how one would know if that person is doing it intentially to hurt others

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Intuition.. Being psychologically analytical.. Knowing the person well.. Things they have said in the past... etc

I mean how does anyone know anything? You build impressions of people over time.

aqua -

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well i could see myself being kind of like that to be honest.

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posted February 24, 2013 06:29 PM            

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Having others envy you is well.. uncomfortable to say the least,

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Exactly!! Most people would find it uncomfortable. Well said.

posted February 24, 2013 06:36 PM            

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its not about wanting to be envied for me its about wanting to be desired

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Do you associate the two things?
Do you think that if you were envied by many - you would be more desirable as well?

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i specifically want to be desired by girls who have hurt/wronged me in the past so i can settle the score

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Would it be enough if they "look like" or remind you of a girl from the past?
Would this trigger the reaction of wanting to hurt them?

Doux -

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I'm pretty sure it's a negative manifestation of Pluto/Scorpio.

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posted February 24, 2013 06:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
aquaguy -

Yeah... The more I think about it... It does sound Plutonian.

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posted February 24, 2013 07:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
After all, Scorpio is *the* sign known for being envious of others..

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posted February 24, 2013 07:41 PM            

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I'll give you another example.. Lets say a person who is a billionaire intentionally walks through a bad/poor neighbourhood and starts telling everyone left right and centre that they have SO MUCH money and their lives are sooooo awesome.
Or lets say they walk through a trailer park - talking to people who do not even have homes... and start telling those people how they own three different holiday houses in Europe.

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posted February 24, 2013 07:54 PM            

maybe..im the only one, but i dont think pluto has to do with this.
i can see plutonic aspects people wanting to be seen as powerful....but to be envied?
mmm....no, that would require some sense of vanity...
so, i dont see the plutonic aspects.

imo, it is something else.

what about placements in relation to aries?
i still stand with leo and libra.

posted February 24, 2013 08:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Lol oh gawd you want revenge on people that did not like you ?ahahha

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posted February 24, 2013 10:52 PM            

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They intentionally pick and trigger people who *do* care - people who have low self-esteem.

They completely feed off on this.
It's something that brings joy to their heart for whatever reason.

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...Actually sounds like bullying to me, more so than just wanting to make people envious. If you intentionally pick out 'weaker people' (at least in the offender's eyes) to do this to, it's the same as bullying. I don't know that envy is the actual driving force behind it. It's feeling power over the individual in question.

To me that might point to an afflicted Mars or Mars/Saturn contact... Just the way I see it.

Honestly, I've had women I've known that were trying intentionally to make me feel envious... I could tell because they'd look at me in judgement and then try to rub something in my face or flirt with the guy that I was talking to (usually just TALKING TO, ironically enough). Mostly I usually felt that this was their issue and they picked me to do it to because I've got an easy-going personality, but I'm comfortable in my skin (ie, I could really care less if that guy started flirting with them or not- I don't live life like a competition- But they seemed to WANT to upset me intentionally so they felt like they 'won'). Like for some reason it seemed to be essential to their ego that they are 'better' than me.

posted February 24, 2013 10:58 PM            

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"The desire to be envied..."

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ew!

That's all I can say.

Taurus Sun.