posted March 06, 2013 12:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I have tons of gemini and actually I was really into astronomy before I discovered and astrology just makes sense because I believe we're all apart of the universe, we're basically space dust.
I'm still skeptical about asteroids thou

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posted March 06, 2013 01:18 PM            

She has aqua sun, mercury and Venus square Pluto in scorp
cancer moon
mars in scorp

posted March 06, 2013 01:26 PM            

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Originally posted by starfairy:
My friend is a major skeptic.

She has aqua sun, mercury and Venus square Pluto in scorp
cancer moon
mars in scorp

the problem with her is that she knows nothing about astrology. She said she read her chart and said it was all wrong. The thing is, she just read general
descriptions of each planet, but never read about aspects and houses!!! She read that Venus in aqua is non-committal and into unconventional relationships, whereas she is very much into commitment and always
wants a bf. Based on this she thinks astrology is BS. However her sun is conjunct her Venus in the 7th house!!! So obviously that makes a huge difference but she's too stubborn to explore it further. Ugh we get into arguments and my friends take her side because they know nothing about astrology either.

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posted March 06, 2013 02:14 PM            

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Originally posted by curious girl:
Similar here! I know a Uranus opp. Mercury woman who takes every opportunity to tell me astrology simply cannot work while she does not even border to read about the subject.

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Omg that is so annoying!! You'd think with mercury opposite Uranus she'd be more open-minded...

posted March 06, 2013 02:21 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
Why are you still skeptical about asteroids ?

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I've never felt any influence from them. Besides theres not enough much info on them . Maybe if there was more info and studies, this site is pretty much the only place where people interrupt them.. I think Chiron, Ceres, Pallas, Juno & Vesta ,eros, psyche are the only asteroids used in main stream astrology. They are just there, I don't really connect with them, Its taking someone else's word.

posted March 06, 2013 02:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:

I'm still skeptical about asteroids thou

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Me too.

I've noticed that a lot of Sagittariuses are skeptical about it (astrology) for some reason.

posted March 06, 2013 02:46 PM            

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Originally posted by starfairy:
Omg that is so annoying!! You'd think with mercury opposite Uranus she'd be more open-minded...

Anyway we should feel sorry for them! We're enlightened and they're not :P

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posted March 06, 2013 03:09 PM            

Other extreme disbelievers are that way because of religious restraints... some others are bound to discredit the studies and application of the stars for anything more than "I'll believe it when I see it", needing of hard factual, physical evidence.

But, narrow-mindedness can be found even in believers of astrology, those who do apply it to their lives... just in a different form than the others. lol

My mother-in-law wouldn't go near astrology or astronomy unless her JW brethren and the archangel Michael himself turned around and forced her too, and even then I think she'd detest it. The full moon and stars are the devil to her.

My husband equally detests any mention of astrology, for the same reasons listed here and above. But, then again... he's a fairly close minded and (it's true) ignorant person... not just with astrology, but many sciences and pseudo-sciences alike... he has zero interest... but, does have some kind of interest and belief in the possibilities of the paranormal, and an interesting fear of the demonic... (the latter probably stems from growing up with his mother and the old world strictly Catholic relatives around him all the time.

I'm not sure the charts here will show, beyond a doubt, any aspect that would confirm a pattern to hold others of the same mindset against. Because, the same aspect that can make someone skeptical can also make them curious.

So with that in mind...
Yes, to Mercury and yes, to outer planets, especially those in dominance/with hard aspect to a personal planet.

Those born with their outer planets in Scorpio and Sagittarius as a generation are supposed to be more open or aware of spiritual, unconventional, and innovative sciences... because of the signs and planets there are spiritually minded, adventurous, and intrigued/investigative.

That alone has given the study a good 30 years (plus), of eager and sometimes, open minded students, and the field has prospered and advanced in many ways because of these influences. The Pluto in Leo Generation was the last great period of advancing and prospering of the pseudo-scientific realms of study. And, the next is groomed from those with Aquarian, and Piscean outers... which will probably be making their mark very soon... if not already doing so!

Fwiw, despite my attempts to get his interest, and despite having similiar planetary placements as me (and our generation), my husband is still very much a disbeliever, but also simply apathetic...

Yet, I consider us both skeptics... I'm just the curious-type, whereas he's a devoted member of the disinterested (and super stubborn *lol*) party, probably for life.

He has Jupiter-Moon cusp of Scorpio-Sagittarius, and Neptune-Sun in Sagittarius, and Uranus unaspected in Sagittarius, with Venus-Mercury-SN in Capricorn.

I have Mars-Pluto, and Saturn in Scorpio - Moon-Saturn opposition aspect, but Uranus-Venus-SN in Sagittarius, and stellium (Sag-Sag-Cap) of Jupiter-Neptune-Mercury.

I've known too many who defy this stereotype, but I still believe that Gemini, Sagittarius, Aquarius, and the water signs to be the most willing to accept and explore these fields, and with Lions and Goats it can really go either way, I've known more Bulls who have no interest or opinion of astrology either way, and have no experience beyond these boards of any Virgos with astrology interest... so really cannot say objectively where they place overall... but, that from those I do know, they seem curious, but a bit unconcerned (I think that's the best word to describe their thoughts for astro-concepts), and unwilling to dedicate much attention to studying with too much depth.

But, like I said, for every one person of the placements (not just Sun alone, I mean) - I can find two of the same sort in my acquaintance/family/friends circle that are somewhere midfield (undecided/apathetic), or completely detesting/dismissive of anything astrology has to offer. ~__~

ftr - I've given up trying to open my husband's mind... 7 years of failed attempts later. lmao

posted March 06, 2013 03:11 PM            

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Originally posted by curious girl:
Seems like she wants me to prove, but why should I bother? it would be like argueing with mobile phone operator that mobiles cannot work cos I donīt understand how mobiles are operating.

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posted March 06, 2013 03:15 PM            

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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
Merc/Uranus to me sounds like the "open minded aspect". Or the "curious mind" aspect. I have the square. Maybe that person you're talking about, doesn't believe in astrology because she's read too many horoscopes? Mybe shes read Enough pop astrology to make her believe its all b.s? I know that for me, before i got into the real stuff, I used to randomly read my horoscope from the newspaper or magazines, and it w was NEVER accurate. So I thought astrology was a complete waste of time, and just some made up thing for entertainment. But that's because I didn't know that real, in depth astrology existed. The sun,moon, asc, aspects, etc.

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posted March 06, 2013 04:12 PM            

Scorpios are the sceptics of the zodiac.

posted March 07, 2013 04:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I've never felt any influence from them. Besides theres not enough much info on them . Maybe if there was more info and studies, this site is pretty much the only place where people interrupt them.. I think Chiron, Ceres, Pallas, Juno & Vesta ,eros, psyche are the only asteroids used in main stream astrology. They are just there, I don't really connect with them, Its taking someone else's word.

Astrology its self is ancient and the main planets are used in many cultures around the world.

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Those are the only ones I use. My Juno placement in Aqua makes sense to me, I count that one before I count Chiron which is all alone in Taurus trine my Ascendant and Mars in Virgo. Since most of my planets are midway or later in each sign, in synastry, I hardly ever have any Chiron connections with women I connect with since its so early in Taurus. I'm trying really hard to give Chiron the benefit of the doubt but I just don't feel its influence.

However, even with all that said, I still have an open mind about other asteroids. There have been some really intriguing threads on LL about asteroids.

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Gemini Sun
Libra Moon
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus
Virgo Mars
Virgo Asc

posted March 07, 2013 01:08 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
I notice Scorpios are more prone to detest it, than Cancers on the contrary.

People w/ strong Uranian-Neptunian-Plutonian aspects love astrology. I have strong Neptune, myself.

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