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11nahyt
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posted March 08, 2013 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
I feel the same way, when I got mine

Nah seriously, am a big loner. I love being a loner, not having friends have never bothered me.


Me too! Love my lil doggie

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Jessica2407
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posted March 08, 2013 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
I have a stellium in 11H (5 planets) and Saturn is included. I have very few FRIENDS, by choice, and many acquaintances. I feel like I can't connect fully with someone if I have too many friends..

same here.

Do you know that quote from Leo Buscaglia?

''A single rose can be my garden, a single friend my world'' I relate totally to it.

I would love to have that single friend my S.O and I would be the happiest woman on earth.

I have many acquaintances, people coming in and out in my life, people I don't consider friends and I don't really mind not being friends but when I consider one person in particular as my friend one way or the other we would end up getting separated.

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posted March 08, 2013 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

For me, it is rather odd.

I NEVER just disrespect anyone, it's just a "friend" means something to me

Would imagine there are those who think they are close to me, who aren't, and then those who think they are far away..whom I watch as best I'm able

Suspect it is that Pluto influence.

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Jessica2407
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posted March 08, 2013 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ Yes! yes I know what you mean. Someone who I am interacting with everyday might consider ME as a friend, and I would totally respect that person, be THERE if they need me, but FOR ME, I will not trust them completely.

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11nahyt
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posted March 08, 2013 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree^^^. I thought it was something to do with Pluto influence as well.

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posted March 08, 2013 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
^^ Yes! yes I know what you mean. Someone who I am interacting with everyday might consider ME as a friend, and I would totally respect that person, be THERE if they need me, but FOR ME, I will not trust them completely.

You know.

For me, the most absurd thing will cause me to think of someone..the day after day stuff..not so much.

A friend of mine yrs ago, literally gave him the shirt off of my back..consider him a "friend"..the ones I see every day..not so much.

May have given the shirt off of my back yrs ago, saw him in the interim and he was like "dude you did..", people I see everyday seem to have an agenda

Bleech, danger danger so to speak

Alright Jessica..at this rate we will rob a bank..or a series of them..

Only say that 'cause..you know

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Jessica2407
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posted March 08, 2013 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ do you think that's a negative influence from pluto? I have pluto in the 9th House Libra. My 7th house ruler moon squares pluto. also inconjunct mars at 1 degree. I feel I come off too intense, I don't want people around me to know how intense I am so play a low profile so to speak. Like if someone at work invites me to a party at their residence, I would automatically say I have something else planned on that day.Then I would start wondering what made me say that, and well I know deep down I don't feel comfortable with that person crossing the line from work friend to personal friend without having any real cause..am I just weird may be?

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Jessica2407
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posted March 08, 2013 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
''For me, the most absurd thing will cause me to think of someone..the day after day stuff..not so much.''

wow, this so freaking TRUE!!! ME TOO!!

And I would NEVER NEVER forget that person.

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Jessica2407
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posted March 08, 2013 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
''Bleech, danger danger so to speak''

may be pluto sees danger where there is none...may be...like self sabotaging us..dunno..

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posted March 08, 2013 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for earthypisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starfairy:
I agree with orange.

I have Saturn in the 11th (placidus) and have very few friends ( by choice). The ruler of my 11th is in Capricorn. I'm very much about quality over quantity. My sun is in the 12th so I'm very much a loner. And my moon is in my 4th.


I have Saturn in the 11th (mine is in Pisces, though) and I'm a loner too, but my sun is in the 11th and moon in the 8th.

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posted March 08, 2013 05:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
^^ do you think that's a negative influence from pluto? I have pluto in the 9th House Libra. My 7th house ruler moon squares pluto. also inconjunct mars at 1 degree. I feel I come off too intense, I don't want people around me to know how intense I am so play a low profile so to speak. Like if someone at work invites me to a party at their residence, I would automatically say I have something else planned on that day.Then I would start wondering what made me say that, and well I know deep down I don't feel comfortable with that person crossing the line from work friend to personal friend without having any real cause..am I just weird may be?

For me, i just ooze this sort of intensity+knowledge and always pushing my limits..that is just me

think biking up a mtn w/Mandarn Chinese playing in the rain or snow, or cold, stuff most would not do.

Difference is though J2047..do you actually, you know...like those giving you an invite?

Maturity for me means sure I'll show up, and be polite, then "in 10 minutes I'm late for the door"

If I don't like them

So no, you are not weird, just wondering if you like your co-workers and can see yourself hanging out with them?

If not, why not?

If so, why not?

Not to be offensive, however it does seem like..you do not like your coworkers?

Perhaps linear/engineer thinking is meeting outside of the box thinking and..well..it ends up a certain way were everyone is insulted if you speak your mind..so why risk it?

Pardon me, I'm bust scaring people down in Sweat Peas ATM though..I'm sure you'd understand..

From an Astrological pov:

Saggie+triple fire+scorpio relationships+pluto squaring Sun+Leo Moon

This makes for an odd sort of approach to friendships, sort of a attract people and then not like them.

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Jessica2407
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posted March 08, 2013 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ LOL

''Not to be offensive, however it does seem like..you do not like your coworkers?''

Am not easily offended

TBH, I don't get invited by all my coworkers because I do keep a distance when I interact with me. It's the ones that I have allowed inside my comfort zone that I can't trust...or rather don't want to trust..

So it's not really a matter of liking them or not. I don't trust them....yet.. I have an issue trusting people..because people change, circumstances change people's loyalties especially in a place of work.

There is ONE thing that is not constant is how people FEEL. When you are intense about your relationships a simple faux-pas on the part of that person will most likely hurt you deeply, and it may not be construed as too big a deal by others.

meh...I feel like am riddled with issues now..

must be because of tpluto in my first house...I feel like dissecting my every move..not really loving it though..

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Jessica2407
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posted March 08, 2013 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
''From an Astrological pov:

Saggie+triple fire+scorpio relationships+pluto squaring Sun+Leo Moon

This makes for an odd sort of approach to friendships, sort of a attract people and then not like them.''

I do have an odd approach to friendship, I think about it very differently than normal folks..while I have a leo sun, moon squaring pluto..and a saggie 12th house, neptune in 11th house.

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posted March 08, 2013 05:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swathi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do not have many friends. i just do not attract people. That one person who walks a little behind the group is probably me.

I have a capricorn stellium at 11th house which includes Saturn. In addition, my Venus is also in 11th house conjuncting Saturn.

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Originally posted by Swathi:
I do not have many friends. i just do not attract people. That one person who walks a little behind the group is probably me.

I have a capricorn stellium at 11th house which includes Saturn. In addition, my Venus is also in 11th house conjuncting Saturn.



My boyfriend has basically one good friend and is a huge loner. He has a Cappy stellium. His best friend is a Cappy too. The problem is he doesn't reach out to people. He wouldn't even have the Cappy best friend if that guy hadn't been persistent with him, insisting they hang out. His older brother wants to hang with him more, (they're fairly close in age) but he pushes him away. I wonder if that's a Cappy thing in general.

In any case, he has fifth-house placements, but no 11th house. Myself, I'm a typical Aqua, having tons of acquaintances.

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I'm so cappy
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posted March 08, 2013 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who of you loners has Chiron in the 11th?

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Jessica2407
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posted March 08, 2013 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Who of you loners has Chiron in the 11th?


nope, mine is in 4th..

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meissieri
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posted March 08, 2013 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wow, this got a lot more sad than I thought. Sorry. This whole thread loosened up some really painful, bottled-up feelings in me.

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posted March 08, 2013 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(((( meissieri ))))

I think most people don't have a lot of friends. Honestly, all the people I know have like 2 or 3 "real" friends. It's normal.


It does get lonely if you have *no* real friends, at all, though.


Also, I think people can sense it when someone is naturally clingy (even if they don't actually truly show it). That's why other people may find it too "burdensome" to become close to such people. It's like they can sense that they'll have to be there *all the time* and always spend time with them and what not. It can definitely be a turn-off, especially for more loner types.

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posted March 08, 2013 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you. I agree, they probably sense that I'm getting expectations - that's usually when they start avoiding me. I'm pretty good at hiding it and keeping an open mind, but it's there. I try not to take it too personally, because we're probably too different, but it hurts. I just wish they'd talk to me about it for a change. Then when I want to move on, I hear from them again. With better friends, it's kind of both of us living our own life and we plan now and then and that actually works much better!

I've always been worried about coming on too strong, so I'm so glad to know what the problem is. I can't change being so drawn to the loner types, but I can try to change how I feel about it. Thanks for pointing it out.

Trying to get back on topic:
The ruler of my 11th (Sun) makes a sesquisquare to Saturn (but that's minor... right?). I have Sun square Pluto as well. Four planets in the 4th (including Saturn) and 2 in the 12th.

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posted March 08, 2013 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for visions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have a very well aspected jupiter in the 11th in cancer and i have only one friend which is reliable by the way.But i am very surprized to have not a lot of friend with this placement.

but ihave a 12th saturn by the way

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posted March 08, 2013 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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But i am very surprized to have not a lot of friend with this placement.

Don't be, same here But maybe my Chiron also in the 11th spoils it.

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posted March 09, 2013 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpioMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Saturn in Capricorn falls into my 11th house Capricorn, and I have NO friends. Now, I can make friends pretty easily to be honest. People just gravitate towards me most likely because of my Pluto influence, but, the problem is keeping acquaintances around long enough for them to become real friends. Usually some people will cut me off due to silly misunderstandings that cause arguments, other people, for whatever reason will just stop associating with me without any give explanation as to why they stopped talking to me. I do these things as well, so i won't put all the blame on others. Lastly, I fail to make friends because some people who are I believe are insecure people, tend to gossip about me, harass/bully me, talk down to me, or attempt to use me in some way and i refuse to associate with anyone who is going to be toxic for me. Who wouldn't? After dealing with so many crooked people, I've become wary of anyone who might have a genuine interest in me. I am a loner by choice these days, which is fine, because I love being alone anyhow. Mom always stresses me to make friends/be more sociable, and I'm just like "No...No...I forever alone." lol (=

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Jessica2407
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posted March 10, 2013 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScorpioMoon:
My Saturn in Capricorn falls into my 11th house Capricorn, and I have NO friends. Now, I can make friends pretty easily to be honest. People just gravitate towards me most likely because of my Pluto influence, but, the problem is keeping acquaintances around long enough for them to become real friends. Usually some people will cut me off due to silly misunderstandings that cause arguments, other people, for whatever reason will just stop associating with me without any give explanation as to why they stopped talking to me. I do these things as well, so i won't put all the blame on others. Lastly, I fail to make friends because some people who are I believe are insecure people, tend to gossip about me, harass/bully me, talk down to me, or attempt to use me in some way and i refuse to associate with anyone who is going to be toxic for me. Who wouldn't? After dealing with so many crooked people, I've become wary of anyone who might have a genuine interest in me. I am a loner by choice these days, which is fine, because I love being alone anyhow. Mom always stresses me to make friends/be more sociable, and I'm just like "No...No...I forever alone." lol (=

I can relate to some of that..except I feel my mum secretly loves the fact that I am a loner...

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meissieri
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posted May 04, 2019 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, this is one of the threads that inspired me to make a video on this on my new channel.
I've used a few other threads too.

So these are also my thoughts on it. http://youtu.be/ZivJWYfv5rs

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