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Freesia
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posted March 09, 2013 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Freesia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,
I've been thinking of one configuration in our composite - how to connect these explanations in together:
Venus sextile Saturn (from cafeastrology "This is a strong aspect for steadfastness, loyalty to the commitment of your partnership (not necessarily to one another), longevity, and the ability to take relationship problems and responsibilities in stride. In many ways, you as a couple follow the "rules" of tradition, and you approach your relationship (as well as spending) realistically...Others see you as a responsible couple.")
Then Venus trine Mars (from cafeastrology "Energy flows quite beautifully between the two of you, and you are often in synch with one another, enjoying good timing. You find one another pleasantly stimulating. While you are not overly anxious to shake up your romantic or sexual routine, you are also open to trying new things that naturally keep the spark from dying out between you. The key here is that there is no pressure to do so--things just naturally flow in that direction. This is an excellent aspect for romance. Rarely do petty arguments disturb your expression of affection, unless there are severely challenging components in the rest of your composite chart. You have that much-desired "chemistry")
AND
Mars opposite Saturn (from J.Lenon n Yoko Ono reading pasted"In addition to whatever success this relationship holds,
there will be considerable frustration as well. One or both of
you feels that you cannot do what you want, or that you are
constantly being checked, watched, and judged. Projects you
undertake together may seem like a great strain, a constant
battle, a grind, a struggle against overwhelming odds. A certain
grimness and pessimism can permeate your interactions.")

Has anyone experienced such configuration, how is it playing out? Any thoughts? Should we do sports together or anything to use this energy positively?

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Doux Rêve
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posted March 09, 2013 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus sextile Saturn is very good.
My sister and her bf have it in the composite and they're very loyal to each other and it's a stable relationship, they can depend on each other.

Mars opp Saturn doesn't sound peachy, though. You have to look at the houses in which the aspect falls to have a better idea of the area in life where there will be challenges. Usually there's a feeling of frustration, yes. Like the other person restricts you from acting freely. It doesn't *have* to be doomed, especially if neither of you has a hard Mars/Saturn aspect natally or in synastry. But it will need adjustment and cooperation. Careful also this aspect can lead to abuse (psychological or physical).

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Freesia
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posted March 09, 2013 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Freesia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, I do not know his exact birth time so can not analyse houses.
Lookked at natals - my Mars is not aspecting Saturn. His Mars has Quintile w Saturn.
And Synastry shows
his Saturn Quincunx my Mars (orb 2)
his Mars biQuintile my Saturn (orb 1)

Not sure how this applies. Though I'm a bit concerned about Quincunx - which one of us can become abusive what do you think?
Till now we have experienced only positive emotions together (it is just a start of our relationship).

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posted March 09, 2013 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Always check the natals first, to see if there's potential for abuse. Cause usually if the natals don't have such a signature, even an afflicted synastry overall won't necessarily make it a "nocive" relationship.

Abuse in the natal chart can be seen in hard Mars aspects and a prominent Pluto / Saturn energy.

If the natals reflect a more harmonious energy, if there's lots of Libra or Air influence, for example, chances of abusive behaviour decrease significantly. Because the ability to detach and talk about things, and make rational decisions, is highlighted.

I can't tell you for sure how the afflicted Saturn will play out for you.

It's often found in long-term relationships and marriages. It does promote longevity, but is happiness actually part of it..? that's another story.

Also, it may point to external obstacles that prevent you from being together or getting closer. So the source of frustration can be internal (differences in personality, for example) or external (distance, third parties, etc).

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posted March 09, 2013 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Freesia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Huge thanks for helping to unterstand! It means a lot to me. I feel so connected to that man!

I do not se in his chart abusive patterns you mentioned but I'm a beginner so I might be wrong (hopefully not). Though he is very emotional (so am I), he is Cancer Sun. Let me post his Natal (time is not known so houses are not precise)


But there is wide T-square btw Mars, Sun and Uranus. So unexpected actions take place (yes, he is taking me out often "unplanned", calls in the last minute, and gets dissapointed if I have different plans, but I hope he will start respect my time, will see.)

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Doux Rêve
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posted March 09, 2013 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well it seems like he'd definitely have a temper. Mars in Aries sq Moon. Mars opposite Uranus (the orb is definitely acceptable) and they both square Sun. So I can see some conflict between his need for freedom of action, and a discrepancy between his emotional needs (Moon) and actions (Mars).
Mars being in the 7th can suggest arguments / conflicts in close relationships.
His Pluto and Saturn are both angular (ASC and MC respectively) and they're square. So he can be controlling and dominant, he probably wants a relationship on his own terms and doesn't strike me as a very compromising person.

Now, I don't wanna scare you or anything, I don't know him and I'm just pointing out the things that strike me as quite alarming.

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posted March 09, 2013 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Freesia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His birthtime is not known so AC and MC can be anywhere.
He does not act agressively or irrational or stg, at least yet. I am rather emotional and tended to extremes and he is the one who calms me down with his peacefullnes. But he is doing sports, it might spend this agressive energy if there is such. So I must observe him. And find out his time of Birth...

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posted March 09, 2013 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Freesia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I checked how his birth time can change Mooons possition depending if he is born after midnight till next day start, so it travels from 4-15 degrees Capricorn. So Moon could be out of Squares orb.

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posted March 09, 2013 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, okay! That's good news!
Phew, if he doesn't show any sign of aggressiveness, that's all for the better.
And yes, sports definitely do help!

Good luck with your guy ~

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