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peregrine
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posted March 10, 2013 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taurus/Scorpio axis
Rulers: Mars (Pluto) and Venus
Natural houses: 2nd/8th
On the Taurus/Scorpio axis we meet Mars and Venus again, although this time in their fixed, earth-water manifestations. As a fixed axis, the confrontation between Taurus and Scorpio can be particularly entrenched and unyielding. Naturally associated with the 2nd/8th house axis, the inherent conflict on this axis revolves around issues of resources and ownership, values and possessions, both personal and shared. Taurus is a gentle, peace-loving and practical sign, which prefers to stay within its own sphere of comfort. However, if this axis becomes particularly polarised on the Taurus end of the spectrum, then the simple, biological drive towards stability can become inert and stagnant. This inevitably evokes and stimulates the kind of intense crises that are associated with the sign of Scorpio, which breaks down fixed structures in the interests of growth and new life.

Audience: I have often wondered why Taureans seem to have such battles in relationships. I suppose this is what happens when they are identified with the Scorpio end of the spectrum?

Clare: That's right. When we start to think in terms of axes, then we will start thinking of a Taurus person as being somewhere on the Taurus-Scorpio axis, although we don't know exactly where until we have explored this with them first. But this means that we will no longer be surprised if we have a Taurus client who is consumed by intense and complex emotional or relationship problems, sexual issues, power struggles, battles over money and shared resources, and the like. None of these things belongs to the sign of Taurus, which is very simple, stable and grounded, but they are not uncommon themes with Taurean clients. I am using the term 'Taurean' to describe a person who may not have the Sun in Taurus but could have several planets in Taurus or in the 2nd house, or Taurus on the Ascendant. In such cases, the Taurean can gradually restore their equilibrium by developing a sound sense of self-worth, providing materially for themselves, cultivating a fixity of purpose, a pride in their own accomplishments, and the courage to defend themselves, rather than engaging in power struggles which appear to be caused by the emotional demands of others.
A useful Taurus-Scorpio myth is that of King Midas, who was extremely wealthy. He was, we could say, identified entirely with the Taurus end of this axis. When he was granted a wish by the god Dionysus, he wished that everything he touched would turn to gold, and so it did. However, when he touched the flowers in his garden they turned to gold, and everything he tried to eat turned to gold, so he became increasingly hungry. Worst of all, his beloved daughter turned into gold when he accidentally touched her. Fortunately, and because King Midas was so full of remorse when he realised the consequences of his greed, Dionysus agreed to reverse the spell, and everything came to life again.

We could say that he realised that, without the destructive aspect of the life-force that belongs to Scorpio, everything would become static, incapable of change or growth. The point is that Taurus begets Scorpio, retention leads to release, incorporation to elimination, to ensure that nature remains in balance and that the life force is constantly regenerated.

Audience: What happens if this axis is reversed and the identification is on the Scorpio end? Can you give us an example of a Scorpio that needs to find its Taurus?

Clare: In this case the individual may seek to find their security and self-worth through other people or other people's resources, rather than their own. If we depend completely on others for our security and sense of self-worth, then we have given our power to them, and we naturally feel that they owe us something in return. If we have no sense of our own inner intrinsic value or worth, we have nothing to contribute to the relationship. The Scorpio client can therefore be extremely possessive, feeling that other people are their possessions and that they belong to them, body and soul. With such a great investment in the other, it is not surprising that, before long, intense feelings of jealousy, suspicion and insecurity emerge. The interesting thing about this is that possessiveness belongs to Taurus and is not a Scorpio trait at all. In essence Scorpio is where we are forced to surrender and let go. Scorpio does not hold onto things - it purges and eliminates, because everything which no longer serves life has to die to make way for new life.
The myth of Pluto and Persephone is relevant here because it harks back to the ancient seasonal rituals celebrating the relationship between life and death in nature. Taurus is springtime, celebrated in the fertility festival of Beltane at the beginning of May, when Persephone is said to make her annual return to the earth from the underworld and all of nature begins to thrive and grow. But at the opposite end of the year, in Scorpio time, marked by Samhain, the festival of death, Persephone returns to the underworld, her earth-mother Demeter goes into mourning, and everything in nature dies. Scorpio and Pluto signify the great organic processes of death and renewal. The life force ebbs and flows on a seasonal basis, since growth cannot continue indefinitely - nature has to be stripped bare in order to ensure renewed life. So the Taurus/Scorpio axis is one entire process, and we cannot really understand one without understanding the other.

http://www.astro.com/mtp/mtpt43_e.htm

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posted March 10, 2013 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really don’t get this axis thing.Are they only between signs or also between houses?

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peregrine
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posted March 10, 2013 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
all of the above for the article.

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posted March 10, 2013 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think its more about asc/dsc because they're talking relationships.

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charlie
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posted March 10, 2013 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh God! My NN is in Scorpio as is my IC. I also have Jupiter on MC and Uranus on IC. It's a constant battle between the two signs. Powerful forces...and it doesn't make it better when I have my Sun opposite Moon (cardinal) already...and ASC/DSC in Mutable Signs...

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posted March 10, 2013 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scropiojunkie85     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I guess I'm in for it... my ascendant and NN are conjunct in Taurus... Nightmare. That article is one I deeply identify with... Still trying to find the balance. Anyone else have NN/Asc conjunction?

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peregrine
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posted March 10, 2013 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have mars, pluto, saturn, asc in scorp. Sun and venus in taurus. Node in 2nd-8th axis.

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posted March 10, 2013 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice article.

I have Taurus Mars opp Scorpio Pluto and Venus in 8th opp Jupiter in 2nd.. All of that definitely resonates lol

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cappy1277
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posted March 10, 2013 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cappy1277     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's the polarity that they are talking about. There is always a flip side to every sign & that shows in their opposite sign. We need to embrace certain positive traits in the opposite sign to gain control over the negative ones that may show up in the sign that we are. It's all about finding the balance.

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peregrine
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posted March 10, 2013 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes u don't even need opposing planets. but it seems those that do resonate with both.

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FireMoon
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posted March 11, 2013 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah idk at least for me it's not that I'm too far on one specific end of the spectrum, more that I go from one extreme to the other lol

There is supposed to be a natural balance between building stability and letting things go when necessary to maintain growth and harmony..

I want stability and comfort very much and will work endlessly to get it, which I'm usually able to for some time at least (Taurus Mars, Jupiter in 2nd) but yeah I have a problem associating letting go with losing control, and losing control with chaos. Like if I can't hold on to everything I might as well throw it all away right? (sarcasm lol) And who wants to be constantly under control anyways, there's so much more to life.. But where does that leave me? Back on the Scorpio end of the spectrum of death and destruction.. just to repeat the cycle all over again. And I don't mean the gentle shift of seasons between rainy and dry or something, more like the extremes of say.. Alaska lol

So anyway, I've thought about the aspects themselves but never really the polarity of the signs so it was definitely a good read

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