posted March 13, 2013 01:17 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
Ruler of 8th in 7th house

Ruler of 8th is in LEO and its barely aspected singleton

ok..scary

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Indeed... you should pick your partner carefully - cause apparently that's a possible cause of death - being killed by your husband/boyfriend - but in a way that draws a lot of attention (like the media...) - an act of jealousy or maybe doing it for the assurance policy or some inheritance... just some of the most common motives behind this type of crimes.

posted March 13, 2013 01:33 PM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:

Indeed... you should pick your partner carefully - cause apparently that's a possible cause of death - being killed by your husband/boyfriend - but in a way that draws a lot of attention (like the media...) - an act of jealousy or maybe doing it for the assurance policy or some inheritance... just some of the most common motives behind this type of crimes.

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posted March 13, 2013 01:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
OMG...scary indeed

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Mars in 8th...dunno, may be a violent death

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
me too, ruler of 8th sun in 7th house leo..don't know what that means.

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same advice - be extra careful in terms of relationship partner - since you also have Mars in the 8'th house... do some detective work - and find out all there is to know about your boyfriend... just to be safe. Though - that's just one possible cause, it can also imply a car accident - one of which your bf/husband is guilty of - the kind that draws some media attention (especially if he's drunk).

posted March 13, 2013 02:23 PM            

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Kerosene: I hear jupiter returns causes deaths ironically

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I saw that here a while ago,

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But wait! Jupiter, as I mentioned, is the planet that teaches us about expansion, and sometimes it goes too far! So far, in fact, that it becomes a negative force in our life. For example, Marilyn Monroe, who had achieved spectacular success in films by the time of her third Jupiter Return, chose to pit herself against studio authorities and demand more control over the direction of her career. Based on the extraordinary success she had already achieved, she simply over-extended herself, demanding more authority than studio moguls were willing to grant, and was immediately fired from the film she was working on. Marilyn, whose ego was very fragile in spite of all her success, died tragically at the age of thirty-six on her third Jupiter Return.

Princess Diana also died at the age of thirty-six after over-reaching herself. By the time of her Jupiter Return, Diana had acquired an admirable reputation as an advocate for charitable causes and appeared, at least on the surface, to be reveling in an exhilarating new sense of freedom--a very Jupitarian feeling, by the way. Jupiter loves freedom. Diana secretly collaborated with those who wrote books about her, revealing the private goings-on behind palace walls. But when she granted a TV interview in which she attacked not only Prince Charles but the royal family itself , it was the beginning of her downfall. She'd taken her newfound Jupitarian exuberance too far.
I felt certain that the Queen would have to react decisively in order to preserve the monarchy's reputation, and indeed she did, granting permission for Charles and Diana to divorce, which, ironically, was the beginning of the process that led to Diana's untimely death.

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The Jupiter Cycle
That was an interesting read..

Although when Monroe died transit Jupiter was 10 Pisces, and her natal Jupiter is 26 Aquarius. A bit wide for a conjunct? But it was conjunct her natal Juno in the 8th (2). Transit Chiron conjunct natal Juno (0).

Bob Marks: "Juno in the 8th House: You need a Sex Machine for a partner. Since the 8th house rules the partner's possessions, well, they may regard you as a possession (especially if there are stress aspects). Marriage and partnership can also help you to reconstruct or transform yourself (whether you want to or not)."
--Juno's square the Sun (male in her life) 1 deg. Getting a bit creepy here.
--She has Pisces on her 8th, ruled by Neptune in the 1st. sa NN conjunct natal Neptune (0). That's one marker for passing over, since you're 'expanding your consciousness' and whatnot.
--Transit Neptune 10 Scorpio square natal DSC 13 Aquarius, going through her 4th. Transit Neptune trine transit Jupiter (0), touching off the natal 8th Juno, Neptune/Jupiter also seeks expansion, release from the mundane, and release from that relationship.
--Progressed Sun conjunct natal NN/Pluto MP. Pluto/Sun you tend to see in death too. Sun/NN, new way of expressing yourself.
--Progressed Venus conjunct natal Sun (0) 10th, actually only 9 minutes separating. Lots of public outpouring for her.

I think it was suicide since she has a strong set-up for depression, rulers of 6th/8th/12th in t-square are all markers: Moon rules 12th in 7th, opposed Neptune ruler of 8th in 1st, t-square Saturn ruler of 6th in 4th.
Add to that natal Jupiter opp Neptune, and there was a transit Jupiter Neptune trine, mimicking that energy.
So yea the 8th definitely involved for her.
Neptune ruling 8th in 1st opp Moon, tsq Saturn, death as a result of relationship falling apart..suicide.

Princess Diana's relationship issues are another thing altogether. NN conj Uranus opp Moon tsq Venus in the 5th.
Natal Jupiter 5 Aquarius, transit Jupiter 14 Aquarius. So it's not on the Jupiter return it's following it.
She was her own worst enemy here with her energy, have you seen Dodi Al Fayed's chart? Complete mess.
But Moon rules 8th in her chart, involved in that crazy t-square but from the 2nd in Aquarius. Cars are 3rd house, Mercury, Gemini, mobility.
What she did have was Neptune as 3rd ruler conjunct Saturn, off by around just 10 minutes.
Natal Juno's in the 3rd.....
Progressed Moon in Gemini square natal Juno in the 3rd, actually a t-square if you add in progressed Mars opposing Juno from the 9th. Yea I think she was making rash relationship decisions. She should've never been with him.
Progressed Venus conjunct natal Mercury in the 7th, separating only 2 minutes. I think this was part of the impulse for this new 'friend.'
Transit Jupiter opposed progressed Sun in the 8th, off by only 5 minutes. Def pushing her luck there.
Transit Uranus conjunct natal Jupiter, off by 24 minutes. Release from troubling circumstances, but Jupiter/Uranus is also a gambling aspect.
Well...Moon as 8th ruler in Aquarius opp Uranus sq Venus...I guess you could see her death as tied to rash relationship decisions? But not the actual car accident.

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posted March 13, 2013 02:59 PM            

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Originally posted by starfairy:
I have this, too. Ruler of my 8th house in my 4th house. Is your Mercury well-aspected?

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posted March 13, 2013 03:03 PM            

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Kerosene: I hear jupiter returns causes deaths ironically.

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When my Grandmother passed recently, Jupiter was in her 8th.

posted March 13, 2013 03:12 PM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
same advice - be extra careful in terms of relationship partner - since you also have Mars in the 8'th house... do some detective work - and find out all there is to know about your boyfriend... just to be safe. Though - that's just one possible cause, it can also imply a car accident - one of which your bf/husband is guilty of - the kind that draws some media attention (especially if he's drunk).

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posted March 13, 2013 03:24 PM            

But yeah, most likely car accident. Virgo on 8H cusp, Mercury in Aries, 3rd house, conj Sun (combusted!) and Mars, opp Pluto, square Asc.

posted March 13, 2013 03:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Hera:
I'll be dead so why should I care how I'm going to die??

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Being eaten would be unpleasant.

Or starving to death.

Or drowning.

...being stung to death by bees.

posted March 13, 2013 04:46 PM            

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Originally posted by mockingbird:
Being eaten would be unpleasant.

Or starving to death.

Or drowning.

...being stung to death by bees.

Or drawn and quartered.

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posted March 13, 2013 05:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
Ay, there was just a woman who was mauled to death by a frickin lion. What on earth. I remember years back some SMALL CHILD being squeezed to death by this big snake who 'escaped.' I think that one was the mother's boyfriend trying to get rid of the kid to have mom all to himself.

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I understand what you're saying and what mockingbird is saying. I think it's more dramatic for us bystanders or for survivors. But death is a passage to a blissful state, only have to grin your teeth until it's over. Once you get there, how you died is irrelevant.

posted March 13, 2013 06:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Yeah that would suck if you survived...
If you die from it than who cares.
I don't care if I died tomorrow...
I don't see why people are so fascinated by dying.
Either you're capser or you're just used as fertilizer or reborn.

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posted March 13, 2013 07:30 PM            

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Originally posted by ScorpioMoon:
I've got my moon and Pluto in the eighth, the ruler of my eighth house being Pluto. Does anyone have any idea what that could potentially mean about they way I'll die? Death due to an intense, controlling woman? MY MOM?!?! Oh no!

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posted March 14, 2013 12:28 AM            

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Originally posted by virgolotus:
I have Mars in the 8th square Jupiter

I remember reading so many things about how Mars in the 8th is a very violent death by accident. It would scare the crap outta me

I have a feeling it will be a car accident

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posted March 14, 2013 01:36 AM            

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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
Something I did notice with a couple of people (like 4 or 5)who had a sibling die, was that they had natal merc/Pluto in hard aspect. Only one had merc/Pluto trine. i read somewhere that mercury also represents siblings. and someone on a blog had mentioned merc/pluto was the "dead sibling" aspect..so I looked up some people that I knew whom had a dead sibling, and they did happen to have harsh merc/Pluto aspects.

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do you think this only goes for hard aspects?