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swampys
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posted March 15, 2013 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swampys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't like waiting for people to reply. Is that Plutonian?

Also, are Scorpios automatically Plutonian? Like, in the same way I could be (an Aquarius)?

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swampys
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posted March 15, 2013 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swampys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DUMB QUESTIONS! Sorry!

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted March 15, 2013 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Plutonian would be Scorpios, people with moon or sun in close conjunction or opposition to Pluto, chart ruler in strong aspect to Pluto, Pluto on ascending degree, midheaven or IC, somewhere on their chart's Cardinal points. Or, it could be someone who likes Pluto a lot but doesn't have it prominent in their charts lol. Why should they be denied Pluto just because it didn't make it around to aspecting anything, ruling, or being where it is supposed to be?

Plutonian is a state of mind.

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peregrine
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posted March 15, 2013 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hairy perverts.

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Venusian Moon
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posted March 15, 2013 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes its normal. Especially pluto people. Doesnt have to be scorpio.


I am like that.


So is my boyfriend.

Flips out if i dont answer a text or call right away lol

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Kerosene
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posted March 15, 2013 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My best friend is a scorpio/pluto conjunct moon she's sending me messages as I type.
"ARE YOU THERE?"
"Where are you?"

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Doux Rêve
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posted March 16, 2013 05:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by swampys:
I don't like waiting for people to reply. Is that Plutonian?

Have you ever encountered someone who likes waiting for people to reply? It's not a Pluto thing. It's a human thing.


quote:
Also, are Scorpios automatically Plutonian?

In theory, yes.
But if someone only has their Sun in Scorpio and a weak Pluto, I wouldn't consider them very Plutonian. Plutonian = strong Pluto (major aspects to personal planets/points).

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Lunae
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posted March 16, 2013 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
In theory, yes.
But if someone only has their Sun in Scorpio and a weak Pluto, I wouldn't consider them very Plutonian. Plutonian = strong Pluto (major aspects to personal planets/points).


If the sun is Scorpio conjunct Pluto and Mars, that would be heavily Plutonian, right?

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peregrine
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posted March 16, 2013 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
In theory, yes.
But if someone only has their Sun in Scorpio and a weak Pluto, I wouldn't consider them very Plutonian. Plutonian = strong Pluto (major aspects to personal planets/points).


I mailed u about dis scorp bish jajaja! but maybe i worded it wrong.

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Doux Rêve
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posted March 16, 2013 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lunae:
If the sun is Scorpio conjunct Pluto and Mars, that would be heavily Plutonian, right?


Yeah, supposedly.
I know one guy who has it but he doesn't seem Plutonian at all. He's heavy on Fire and he's more open, friendly and wishy-washy than your average Plutonian (Mercury on ASC). His conjunction (probably) falls in his 11th, an Air house. So there's a lot of things to take into consideration.


quote:
Originally posted by peregrine:
I mailed u about dis scorp bish jajaja! but maybe i worded it wrong.

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Lunae
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posted March 16, 2013 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, what you said is true. I have that conjunction in the 5th, and I don't really see myself as a Plutonian, although the pullen chart says I am. O.o I think I am more Mercurial/Neptunian (Pisces moon, Gemini asc) than Plutonian. XD

If I could draw a chart for a a heavily Plutonian person, he prolly would have a Scorpio ascendant with the sun, mars and pluto (prolly venus or mercury too) conjunct in the 8th, opposed by the moon in the 2nd. Or a Scorpio Sun conjunct mars and pluto in the 8th.

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Doux Rêve
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posted March 16, 2013 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Pluto on the ASC would definitely make one Plutonian but hard aspects to it and/or heavy 8th house and Scorpio placements are even stronger.

It really depends.. I mean some people don't have a very prominent Pluto but somehow they "embody" what Pluto is all about (mystery, secrecy, intense feelings, ect). Others, on the other hand, can have a chart full of Pluto aspects and still be light and fickle and shallow.


Maybe it's got something to do with progressions and transits, as well.

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posted March 16, 2013 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lunae:
If I could draw a chart for a a heavily Plutonian person, he prolly would have a Scorpio ascendant with the sun, mars and pluto (prolly venus or mercury too) conjunct in the 8th, opposed by the moon in the 2nd. Or a Scorpio Sun conjunct mars and pluto in the 8th.

lol but the he she would be a gemini! bullet with butterfly wings.

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Padre35
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posted March 16, 2013 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/01/16/how-strong-is-your-pluto-here’s-the-score/

Courtesy of 12muddy, it is a test to see how Plutonian your chart is, things like placement in the Houses and Stellums etc.

Fun stuff, fwiw, I stopped at 26 or so, though it is probably much higher

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peregrine
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posted March 16, 2013 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i kick matt damon's butt!

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swampys
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posted March 16, 2013 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swampys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Padre35:
http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/01/16/how-strong-is-your-pluto-here’s-the-score/

Courtesy of 12muddy, it is a test to see how Plutonian your chart is, things like placement in the Houses and Stellums etc.

Fun stuff, fwiw, I stopped at 26 or so, though it is probably much higher


I did that a couple weeks ago! I got 43. Is that good, or does that end up being more average?

OH! And my moon was 78! :O Am I a lunatic?

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Padre35
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posted March 16, 2013 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by swampys:
I did that a couple weeks ago! I got 43. Is that good, or does that end up being more average?

OH! And my moon was 78! :O Am I a lunatic?


Well good or bad, it simply "is"

The writer suggest anything over 40 is strongly Plutonic.

I think I'm in the mid 30's

Yep, we a bit dark Swampy

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swampys
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posted March 16, 2013 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swampys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Padre35:
Well good or bad, it simply "is"

The writer suggest anything over 40 is strongly Plutonic.

I think I'm in the mid 30's

Yep, we a bit dark Swampy


I love being Plutonian!

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Padre35
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posted March 16, 2013 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by swampys:
I love being Plutonian!

Eh, it can be a bit like Halloween though, really easy to scare people when you have a lot of that in your chart.

For awhile it's all fun, then it gets very tiresome.

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swampys
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posted March 16, 2013 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swampys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Padre35:
Eh, it can be a bit like Halloween though, really easy to scare people when you have a lot of that in your chart.

For awhile it's all fun, then it gets very tiresome.


Well, I want a Plutonian mate so we can understand and share our obsessiveness.

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Padre35
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posted March 16, 2013 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by swampys:
Well, I want a Plutonian mate so we can understand and share our obsessiveness.

Ew..dunno tbh, could easily see that turning into something very very dark.

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swampys
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posted March 16, 2013 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swampys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Padre35:
Ew..dunno tbh, could easily see that turning into something very very dark.

:O Like what?

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Padre35
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posted March 16, 2013 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by swampys:
:O Like what?

Well, think of two people who obsess, and it is turned in on each other, it could become a sort of staring contest of mistrust and mixed motives.

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swampys
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posted March 16, 2013 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swampys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Padre35:
Well, think of two people who obsess, and it is turned in on each other, it could become a sort of staring contest of mistrust and mixed motives.

Oh!

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Lunae
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posted March 16, 2013 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peregrine:
lol but the he she would be a gemini! bullet with butterfly wings.

That kinda reminds me of Catwoman (for the lack of a more approriate emoticon XD) But then, she would have to be our great grandparent if the sun, mars and pluto conjunct in gemini. XD

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