posted March 16, 2013 12:36 PM            

This stands out to me because the chart for the day I'm looking at was when I broke up with my last boyfriend, and having tPluto aspecting that traditionally viewed "love stellium" in this way (although I know that it's for composites, usually) seems like it might act like a "blockage" for those sorts of feelings.

EDIT: I just looked at this aspect more closely, and it's actually a "Sesquiquadrate"...which I didn't know anything about...I found this definition though: Difficult, stressful, agitated. Conflicts with others, though rarely directly or openly. These planets tend to work at cross-purposes, creating discord. More annoying and frustrating than truly difficult (unlike the square).

Makes sense for a breakup

tPluto conjunct natal Neptune exact

tNeptune conjunct tChiron in 12H (Aqua) [both were retro]

tSaturn loose opposite natal Mars-Jupiter-ASC

posted March 16, 2013 07:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Lunae,

it does not mean it will be as bad for you.
It always depends on how the natal chart is wired.
In my case Saturn is in detriment in Cancer in 8th house with an exact quinkunx to an otherwise unaspected Moon, and in wide square to Chiron. Ouch.

It is also the handle of my bucket. The only saving grace it has is the trne to my chartruler Jupiter in Pisces.

My Neptune and Jupiter being in mutual reception, both connected strongly with my ASC and are square ach other are just so super sensitive and vulnerable.
Also everything touching the angles in an important way has much more chances of manifesting externally, as if it was merely touching the planets.

(in my case also SAturn rules 2nd house, Neptune rules 3rdh house - total breakdown of beliefsystem all these years ago, and with Neptune being on ASC it ALWAYS will manifest itself very clearly. I hope when it comes to conjunct I can find better ways to deal with it)

Funny thing is I hardly noticed Tr Saturn on my natal Pluto (and it was squaring my n Venus at the sam etime.

Saturn-Venus aspets always bring a lot of work, but nothing really bad to me.

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You're right. And just like what Doux Reve said in the other thread, the chart will show the potential but how we live it out will be up to our free will.

posted March 17, 2013 03:47 AM            

"For me it was transiting Neptune square natal Pluto, and square Mars. Awful times. Felt like a nightmare."
--had this "that year"

"Transit Neptune squaring my natal Mars (Asc Ruler)"
--strike 3 for Neptune sq Mars ~ at least it's not coming back (!)

iliketurtles,
"it's depressing to feel all of this was meant to happen and i was meant to be unhappy for that period of time."
--yup that's how i feel about that part of my life, it was meant to happen. when things add up to that degree, free will becomes less and less a part of the picture ~

"Outer planet transits are HEAVY."
--- all hard aspects to Sun/Moon/ASC from all the outers, that's what I noticed for mine -

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Ceri, "To be honest the only reason I chose life that night was that I knew my mom could not have endured one more loss like that (she witnessed her brother dying when she was 3 years old; her mom died when she was only 17)." So happy that you made that choice and how sad for your mom but I'm sure she's happy that you're still here too.

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"uranus uranus hard transit. berzerker!"
--yup that aspect for me too, but didn't have it that yr, maybe also some outer planet transits to your progressed planets ?

posted March 17, 2013 05:41 AM            

Then 2011 when I went into clinical major depression and became suicidal. 1998 and 2007 were significantly WORSE than 2011, as a whole, but I think 2011 was the drop that made me overflow. And that's the things that have imprinted my consciousness, my subconscious however is filled with darkness steaming from my childhood, that even I don't want to look into.

Transits for 1998:
-Pluto conj Uranus in 10th house
-Chiron opp Venus (later IC/MC too)
-Lilith opposite Sun
-Neptune sq Mars, Pluto, Saturn, conjunct Lilith and Lucifer, opp Nessus (I was abused)
-Saturn conj Sun-Mercury-Mars (at the time of the abuse it conjuncted Dejanira)
-Jup sq Uranus and itself
-on the day of the abuse, Mars sq Moon-Neptune-Nodes.

Transits for 2007
-Chiron sq Venus (later IC/MC and itself)
-Lilith opp Sun
-Pluto conj Moon-Neptune-SN
-Neptune sq Venus-MC/IC-Chiron
-Saturn sq the above (remember the horrible Sat-Neptune opposition of 2007?)

Transits for 2011 It happened in late Oct
-Neptune and Chiron conj anti-Vertex, sextile Moon-Neptune-Nodes and Mars, trine Pluto and Saturn
-Saturn and Lilith opposite Mercury
-Uranus sq Moon-Neptune-Nodes
-on the day of the attempt, Mars sq Chiron.

posted March 19, 2013 03:15 AM            

My worst time brings me to my best time and future...

At the same hard time the transit was
2002, june T neptune was conj N DC opp N sun
T uranus was trine my N venus