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Kerosene
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posted March 16, 2013 03:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I can tell when someones trying to "charm" me.
Its cute but I'll be very suspicious of you.. its okay if you're flirting with me because hey thats different.

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Jessica2407
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posted March 16, 2013 03:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
I like being gender ambiguous, its like a surprise.
YOU'RE A BOYYYYYYYYY! :O

I know you are a BOYYYYYYY now!!! hehe

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12thhouser
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posted March 16, 2013 03:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
Yeah I can tell when someones trying to "charm" me.
Its cute but I'll be very suspicious of you.. its different if you're flirting with me because hey thats different.

Yes.

Natural charm that makes everyone feel special is desirable. "Charm" that needs an audience (even if just one person) should be suspect.

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peregrine
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posted March 16, 2013 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
venus in any of the angles would give charm and grace.

Venus conj descendant. I prefer it to be my partner rather me.

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Kerosene
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posted March 16, 2013 04:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peregrine:
Venus conj descendant. I prefer it to be my partner rather me.

you attract graceful & charming partners because you are fabulous

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peregrine
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posted March 16, 2013 04:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
<<<< venus in H7

chart ruler conjuncts venus

venus most dominate planet in my chart.

and I feel like am blowing my own trumpet


Ill blow ur trumpet 4 u f u want!

jessie is quite teh hottie.

Hotter now that u became indian lulz.

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peregrine
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posted March 16, 2013 04:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
you attract graceful & charming partners because you are fabulous

I might go blonde today.

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Jessica2407
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posted March 16, 2013 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peregrine:
Ill blow ur trumpet 4 u f u want!

jessie is quite teh hottie.

Hotter now that u became indian lulz.


you sure know how to make a girl feel appreciated #blowingkissesintheairatsand

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peregrine
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posted March 16, 2013 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
where is my wink smiley when i need it? darn! i should makey new one.

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peregrine
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posted March 16, 2013 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
h1 venus would be like venus in aries tho which is in detriment being opposite venus in libra? iv always wondered about this whether it is actually good.

like my h10 leo moon gives it a cappy moon vibe which is cold and cruel mehface.

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Jessica2407
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posted March 16, 2013 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Jessica2407
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posted March 16, 2013 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peregrine:
h1 venus would be like venus in aries tho which is in detriment being opposite venus in libra? iv always wondered about this whether it is actually good.

like my h10 leo moon gives it a cappy moon vibe which is cold and cruel mehface.


hmmm, yeah I agree Venus will come before the sun in your chart if it is in H1..

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peregrine
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posted March 16, 2013 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
hmmm, yeah I agree Venus will come before the sun in your chart if it is in H1..

is that bad? that means it's your oriental planet. trad astro tho.

Venus Guiding Planet

You are very concerned with how others value you and all that you do. As a Venus Skill Symbol person, you may feel impelled to leave a personal impression on all you touch, hoping others will recognize, accept, value and praise your originality or worthiness. Your special skills are those requiring artistry, perception, personal charm and grace, evaluation and judgment. In meeting the demands of daily life, you do well when maintaining your emotional cool and relying on your intuition and judgment in seeking a creative solution.
With Venus as your Guiding Planet, you do well when you allow your instincts and personal values guide you through practical life. Yet at times there may be a conflict between the preservation of your personal values and a need to be praised and treated as someone special, especially when material rewards, comfort, security and luxury figure as incentives.
To achieve happiness, you need be especially careful concerning career, employment and personal relationships. Just any job won't do — your high expectations and sensitivity to criticism, combined with a need for creative expression and a desire to be appreciated and praised, may place you at odds with a conventional career. If you feel frustrated with your current career, a change to a career requiring creativity, judgment or evaluation may be the remedy. Similarly with your choice of companionship and mates. You need to be appreciated and loved, praised and respected, by those closest to you. Because Venus is the first planet within earth’s orbit, in astrology it symbolizes all inwardly directed energies and activities, and in today’s intensely self-centered society, it may be too easy for the Oriental Venus person to slip into the self-absorption of narcissism — the "it’s all about me" syndrome. So, appreciation of others and the development of social graces should go hand-in-hand with self-respect and self-worth.

It’s no surprise that Venus Oriental figures in the birth-charts of many artists in search of new artistic values and ideals, even though their individual styles and biographies often differ radically. Vincent van Gogh, Pablo Picasso and Salvador Dali all have Venus as Skill Symbol. In the instance of van Gogh, the Sun is unaspected, with Venus in close conjunction with Mars. Picasso’s natal chart features Venus in Libra, rising well before a Scorpio Sun, septile Mercury rising well after the Sun. The birth-chart of Dali shows Sun and Venus in Taurus, with Moon at the Midheaven, revealing an artist with an intense need to be "original" and earn vast sums of money to satisfy an avaricious wife. Modern artist Joan Miro was born with Venus Oriental very close to the north lunar node and the Sun. Here Venus is perhaps overshadowed by the Sun, with some the Guiding Planet’s attributes shifted to Mercury, which rises twenty degrees before Venus. And, indeed, Miro’s work has a fluid Mercurial quality and his approach is distinctly mental, even if, in a sense, surreal.
Venus Oriental also figures in the birth charts of poets and writers dealing with issues of art, values, culture and society. Joseph Campbell’s birth-chart has Venus Oriental, trine Neptune in the ninth house and bi-quintile Moon in the tenth house. Poet Arthur Rimbaud has the Sun and Venus Oriental in Libra, and poet, social satirist and wit Oscar Wilde was also born with the Sun and Venus Oriental in Libra. Venus Oriental is also seen in the charts of "macho men," such as Ernest Hemingway. Pornographer Larry Flynt has Venus Oriental close to a Scorpio Sun, with Mars, also in Scorpio, rising five-degrees before Venus — a revealing configuration. Yasir Arafat, the leader of the Palestinian people, has Venus Oriental rising forty-one degrees before the Sun, and it is very near Pluto and close to the Ascendant, suggesting his total dedication and identification with the values and needs of his people.
A number of women who have made their way as original, creative and independent voices in the world were born when Venus was Oriental. The natal chart of singer Alanis Morissette features Venus in Taurus (an excellent symbol for a vocalist) rising thirty-nine degrees before her Gemini Sun. The exact opposition between her natal Moon in the second degree of Scorpio and Venus Oriental seems to express itself well through her edgy lyrics portraying female angst unleashed. Women of rock Chrissie Hydne and Courtney Love were both born when Venus retrograde was Oriental. Chrissie’s Venus forms a bi-quintile aspect to Jupiter, and Courtney’s Venus forms a bi-quintile to Neptune in the first house.

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ail221
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posted March 16, 2013 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jessica your gorgeous !

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Jessica2407
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posted March 16, 2013 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ail221:
Jessica your gorgeous !

Thank you ail

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Jessica2407
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posted March 16, 2013 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Sand

Bad? I dunno...but when Venus is overshadowed by your Sun...hmmm well in vedic the natural 'atmakaraka' is your Sun- own self, YOUR strongest planet, it means your soul indicator..The Atmakaraka planet shows the aspiration of the soul in the present life. This planet is the main planet through which the overall strength of the horoscope is judged...

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peregrine
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posted March 16, 2013 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
would you marry my vedic chart?

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peregrine
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posted March 16, 2013 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in the First House Your Evaluative and Relationship Functions Are Focused on Self and Self-Identity
With Venus in the First House, it is likely that your modes of evaluation and relationship are at once inwardly focused and externally projected. Generally, you are very much aware of your likes and dislikes. If you are more self-aware, you will also be conscious of why you like and dislike and even of the processes that you use to evaluate people and things. You will also be aware of the relationships in your life and the effect that these have on your own sense of self.
Relationships may not be as important to you in themselves as as reference points for your own feeling or sense of self. Relationships are an important ingredient in how you define yourself and the quality of your relationships can affect your self-esteem and your self-perception. Similarly, what you like and dislike and the things that you possess as a result of your likes and dislikes can have a self-defining role to play.
Because your tastes and your relationships are so important to your psyche, they are likely to be reflected in how you project your personality. Because people and relationships are important to you, you often appear to others to be a "people person." Because you define yourself so strongly by what you accept and reject, you may appear to others to be a wo/man of taste. Often this may be reflected in your cultivation of a beautiful or handsome appearance. In fact, the relationship between the reality of self and its appearance in the world plays a central role in your psyche and this dynamic is key to interpreting the symbolic meaning of Venus in the First House.
Transcendent Potential
You can realize the transcendent potential of Venus in the First House when, perhaps through disillusionment or perhaps through contemplation and growing awareness, you conclude that the world of appearances is not real and that you cannot base your concept of "self" on this unreality. For then, the self itself becomes unreal. In fact, that self which is tied to its relationships with the world and the things that it possesses, is unreal and ultimately a non-thing.
You then ask: what is my relationship to reality? What is really good and valuable? Through the process of sorting these questions out and finding the ultimate reality behind the self, you discover the many "selves" that you possess and what is required in order for each of these selves to carry on an authentic relationship with what provides it with meaning. Ultimately, however, you realize that there is only one Self and that your task is to cultivate your relationship with that Real Self.
Insecurity
If you have not found your own internal value system you will have no concept of your own identity. You only gain validity for your sense of self-hood from the reactions of others around you. Therefore, relationships occupy an overly critical place in your life. Appearances, meaning your own appearance in particular, are everything. The appearance that you project, the taste that you portray and who you are seen with determine your self-worth. Your opinion of yourself is determined only by what others think of you. If you are criticized, or worse--ridiculed--you are shattered and humiliated. You have nothing firm of your own to grab onto.
Your Evaluation Focus
The self is the ultimate reference point for you. For you, judgment and taste are self-defining. You are known to yourself and others by the decisions you make and by your likes and dislikes. It may be very difficult for you to develop an objective point of view.
The self may also become an object of evaluation, as well as the subjective evaluator. There is a danger that you may be overly self-critical and may have problems liking yourself. In fact, whether you like yourself, to what extent, why and how may be an important issue for you to resolve.
Your Relationship Focus
For you, relationships tend to be a means of self-definition. For this reason, it may be difficult for you to truly lose yourself in the point of view or in the needs of another. On the other hand, forming and having relationships is such an important dimension of your life that you are likely to be very accomplished in its art. To the extent that your own self is authentic, your relationships will be authentic. If you know and love yourself, you will know and love others also--and others will know and love you.
Focus of Your Femininity
With Venus in the First House, you will generally have a very strong sense of your femininity. If you are female, then being a woman is likely to form an important part of your identity. If you are secure in your femininity, it is usually obvious because it permeates your personality. If you are insecure about yourself, you may always be trying to achieve self-validation in your womanhood, but never find it. This may lead you to overcompensate or it may cause you to hide your femininity.
If you are male, Venus in the First House may symbolize the important role that women are likely to play in your life. Your own identity may be defined, to a greater or lesser extent, by your partner. You may also be more inclined than most men to be in touch with your own feminine side. You may realize that the feminine component in your psyche, which allows you to appreciate beauty and value the other person in your relationships, is something that needs to be valued and nurtured if you are to become a whole person.
Your personality may also express undertones of Venus-in-Aries.

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Jessica2407
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posted March 16, 2013 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peregrine:
would you marry my vedic chart?

LOL


where you are getting this literature on H1 venus? I want to read what they have to say on H7 Venus!

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peregrine
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posted March 16, 2013 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
LOL


where you are getting this literature on H1 venus? I want to read what they have to say on H7 Venus!


answer 1st! just the chart!

http://depthastrology2.com/

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Jessica2407
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posted March 16, 2013 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
H7 venus is cool

''Your personality may also express undertones of Venus-in-Libra.''

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VIRGO_SAGmoon
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posted March 16, 2013 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VIRGO_SAGmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://instagram.com/queen_mrsmink


Im strictly jupitarian i dont have any venutian look.

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Jessica2407
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posted March 16, 2013 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VIRGO_SAGmoon:
http://instagram.com/queen_mrsmink


Im strictly jupitarian i dont have any venutian look.


what's your rising sign?

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posted March 16, 2013 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VIRGO_SAGmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
what's your rising sign?

Sagittarius

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ail221
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posted March 16, 2013 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You look more Virgo imo delicate features.

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