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Jessica2407
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posted March 16, 2013 03:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's discuss and learn.

This is the western chart of the USA

(Data used: 4 July 1776, 4.50 pm LMT, Philadelphia, PA; this is the so-called "Sibly chart", which was originally published in 1787. It is based, in part, on eyewitness accounts of the signing of the Declaration of Independence. There is another chart commonly used for the USA, which gives Gemini on the Ascendant, but there is no historical evidence to support this horoscope.)
http://www.astro.com/nat/natus1_e.htm


What aspects make her such a super power?

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Kerosene
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posted March 16, 2013 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
neptune conjunct mc makes america so glamourous.
People come from all over the world to make their dreams and fantasizes come true.
Exalted saturn gives america the gift of equality and justice and freedom of speech.

Exalted chart ruler conjuncts venus in the 7th!
7th house also shows peaceful and diplomatic relations
Also jupiter/venus shows great wealth.
Mars in the 7th... DON'T MESS WITH US...
moon in aquarius/Uranus conjunct desc/opp shows the needs for individuality as a society. While other societies encourage uniform.
lilith square mars is why america as a problem with femininity and equality for women.... It took centuries for that to progress..

Exalted saturn is heavily aspected!
Thats probably why its a superpower.
Also exalted chart ruler(jupiter) conjuncts venus shows immense fortune another reason why its a superpower (not so much anymore)

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peregrine
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posted March 16, 2013 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine has rassy's big 3

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somethingexcellent
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posted March 16, 2013 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
USA has four Cancer planes...paranoid and defensive!

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posted March 16, 2013 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and conservative.... (jupiter and venus can stay in cancer)
Imagine how much fun it would be if we put sun and merc in gemini

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somethingexcellent
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posted March 16, 2013 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My country, Canada, is a Cancer Apollo conjunct Ouranos. With Aries AC? Strange considering we're seen as so peaceful and mild. Maybe it's the Poseidon conjunct AC...Japan is an Aquarius trine Ouranos in Libra...technology!!!?

Also hey peregrine, the city I live in right now, its birthday is...

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...May 8th!

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posted March 16, 2013 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Americans see as canada is the weird version of us ahahahhahahaa. I see the uranus!
Have you ever seen south park ahahahhaha
Thats a summary of how we see you Jk
canada is very mild thou, its so cute.
I went there once and everyone was so niceeeeee

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somethingexcellent
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posted March 16, 2013 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's see, my current city...Taurus Apollo plus general earthy influence, we're rather mild and quiet overall, plus we're scenic and pretty! Industrial town. Ares square Hades, oddly high crime rate which you don't hear of much.
Poseidon singleton, lots of substance abuse. Aquarius Artemis and Gemini Hermes - everyone pretty much parties together and if you're even a little bit social, you'll know many people easily.

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posted March 16, 2013 05:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Kerosene: I went there once and everyone was so niceeeeee

We are! Everyone makes a joke about how we're all nice and apologetic!

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posted March 16, 2013 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
My country, Canada, is a Cancer Apollo conjunct Ouranos. With Aries AC? Strange considering we're seen as so peaceful and mild. Maybe it's the Poseidon conjunct AC...Japan is an Aquarius trine Ouranos in Libra...technology!!!?

Also hey peregrine, the city I live in right now, its birthday is...

...

...May 8th!


Canada bores my sag aunt and she is a senior citizen and not hip at all lulz. But she needs restaurants, plays, parties and friends.

I could live there if there r hot tauruz girls to occuipy me.

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Jessica2407
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posted March 16, 2013 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 9th house ruler venus in 7th house of partnerships, and NN in 9th house.

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Jessica2407
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posted March 16, 2013 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But I meant her power aspects? Her being the first super power in the world, as well as a nuclear power. What is the role of pluto here? pluto in 2nd house of possession?

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Jessica2407
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posted March 16, 2013 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what can you say about this country based on its aspects?

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Lunae
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posted March 16, 2013 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can I guess? Is this a European country? XD

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Jessica2407
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posted March 16, 2013 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ Nope

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posted March 16, 2013 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh well, at least I tried.

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ail221
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posted March 16, 2013 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jessica2407:
what can you say about this country based on its aspects?


Looks like a very old country or empire based on the Jupiter in Capricorn. A country that undergoes radical regeneration Pluto conjunct Mars, and North Node trine Pluto, a massive linguistic history mercury opposite NorthNode. So I'll say it looks like China's chart.

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ail221
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posted March 16, 2013 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
edit. dp

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Jessica2407
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posted March 16, 2013 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow ail, you are so good <3

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Jessica2407
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posted March 16, 2013 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how about this country? who is she?

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posted March 16, 2013 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well its not a very old country, looks like it's younger than the U.S. But it was under the influence of a dominate world power i.e Great Britain with the Sun conjunct Saturn. Possibly a lot of strife over political liberties with the packed 9th house. Mercury conjunct Jupiter wealth formed through trading and shipping. Mercury opposite Neptune and conjunct Chiron possibly difficulties communicating and interacting with Indigenous people.

Somewhere in the South Pacific or Near New Zealand

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Jessica2407
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posted March 16, 2013 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^

and notice how saturn is in the 9thhouse?

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posted March 17, 2013 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Topic Q: NN Leo in the 8th!
BUT it's ruled by Sun Cancer 8th square to that crap Saturn in the 10th:
No one can ever agree on how it should be ruled, and they're willing to at times let the govt "self-destruct" in order to prove their points. That's called self-sabotage right there.

BTW I hate Mercury opp Pluto for this country.

Pluto Capricorn 2nd, banks are the powers-that-be ~ trine Neptune Virgo conj MC, that's the American dream.
Cept now it's sorta gone to **** , gotta check the progressed chart for that, you'll see Pluto's solar arc to Neptune hahaha.

It'll be on the MC just in time for the Pluto Return, that is going to be one awesome time to live through.

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